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Self prescribing Mounjaro

50 replies

fatandfriendly2024 · 26/12/2024 17:03

Hi,

Changed my name for anonymity.

I have found out over Christmas that someone I know who is a nurse has been self prescribing Mounjaro and also prescribing for friends.

I suspect they shouldn't be doing this. Am I wrong? I can't help but think this is really worrying!

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SafeguardingSocialWorker · 26/12/2024 20:18

Sproutssprouts · 26/12/2024 18:49

Highly unlikely that someone would jeopardise their prescribing rights like this.

A brief look at NMC hearings and the reports from them would show you that stuff like this and worse does happen, regularly.

Shrinkingrose · 27/12/2024 07:56

fatandfriendly2024 · 26/12/2024 19:55

I've just checked, they can prescribe Mounjaro on the NHS in this area.

Nurses can’t, and neither can gp’s , no where in the country can unless it’s over 40 bmi and it was only aapproved a couple of weeks or so ago.

so she’s bullshiting you. There is no way she’s doing this. It would be flagged and caught immediately.

getthosetitsup · 27/12/2024 19:07

"Nurses can’t, and neither can gp’s , no where in the country can unless it’s over 40 bmi and it was only aapproved a couple of weeks or so ago.

so she’s bullshiting you. There is no way she’s doing this. It would be flagged and caught immediately."

They can for diabetes, which also has the happy side effect of weight loss.

fatandfriendly2024 · 27/12/2024 19:24

getthosetitsup · 27/12/2024 19:07

"Nurses can’t, and neither can gp’s , no where in the country can unless it’s over 40 bmi and it was only aapproved a couple of weeks or so ago.

so she’s bullshiting you. There is no way she’s doing this. It would be flagged and caught immediately."

They can for diabetes, which also has the happy side effect of weight loss.

Would it be flagged if she was prescribing for type 2 diabetes?

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Mysticmaiden2024 · 27/12/2024 21:40

This image was taken now from an aesthetics nurse's website, also advertised on her fbook. It is happening.

Mysticmaiden2024 · 27/12/2024 21:41

See photo. It was offered to me 31.5 BMI, she never asked weight or bmi or about health conditions. Just said she can get it and show me how to inject myself

Self prescribing Mounjaro
Supssups · 27/12/2024 22:23

Mysticmaiden2024 · 27/12/2024 21:40

This image was taken now from an aesthetics nurse's website, also advertised on her fbook. It is happening.

as prescription only medicines ,weight loss medications are not allowed to be advertised directly to the public….if she is actually qualified ,she’s breaking rules, and there’s also a possibility she is selling black market or fake products . She should be reported to her professional body. People buying from this sort of source are risking their health.

Shrinkingrose · 27/12/2024 22:47

fatandfriendly2024 · 27/12/2024 19:24

Would it be flagged if she was prescribing for type 2 diabetes?

She can’t be self prescribing, they’d see immediately. Is she diabetic? If not she can’t prescribe for that.

fatandfriendly2024 · 27/12/2024 22:50

@Shrinkingrose I don't think she is. Her sister is though.

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Mysticmaiden2024 · 27/12/2024 23:12

Supssups · 27/12/2024 22:23

as prescription only medicines ,weight loss medications are not allowed to be advertised directly to the public….if she is actually qualified ,she’s breaking rules, and there’s also a possibility she is selling black market or fake products . She should be reported to her professional body. People buying from this sort of source are risking their health.

I don't think she sells fake or black market products. I have used her for other treatments cryotherapy, microneedling and she is very experienced and good.

Shrinkingrose · 28/12/2024 07:25

fatandfriendly2024 · 27/12/2024 22:50

@Shrinkingrose I don't think she is. Her sister is though.

Then she can legally prescribe to her sister. I’m not really sure rhere is an issue here, she will not be prescribing for herself and if her sister is diabetic, and a doctor has approved the medication then she can do the tab and rhe doc will do regular reviews.

InfoSecInTheCity · 28/12/2024 07:51

Mysticmaiden2024 · 27/12/2024 21:41

See photo. It was offered to me 31.5 BMI, she never asked weight or bmi or about health conditions. Just said she can get it and show me how to inject myself

Edited

I'd be slightly concerned that she's listed Mounjaro as a semaglutide when it's actually a tirzepatide while I know it's a little pedantic, I have a basic expectation that a prescriber will be able to explain what they are prescribing. If there is any sign that they don't then how could you trust that they understand the risks and benefits of any medication and which will be the right option for you and why?

InfoSecInTheCity · 28/12/2024 07:54

Strawber · 26/12/2024 19:18

Why would Mounjaro be accessed in the hospital why would the NHS have it unless they work in a weight loss clink or something f

I was prescribed via the hospital as that's where the Diabetes Virtual Clinic is based and serves the whole of the city and county trust.

Supssups · 28/12/2024 09:36

Mysticmaiden2024 · 27/12/2024 23:12

I don't think she sells fake or black market products. I have used her for other treatments cryotherapy, microneedling and she is very experienced and good.

I think buying off someone with a Facebook profile who acts in this way is exactly the sort of practise that regulators want to crack down on.
You’ve said yourself “she never asked weight or bmi or about health conditions. Just said she can get it and show me how to inject myself” …how on earth can you think that this is a legitimate source of WLJ?

Shrinkingrose · 28/12/2024 09:42

It’s nearly always wegovy/ozempic, many don’t know th difference between that and mounjaro, I’ve not seen anyone offered mounjaro yet, my hairdresser offered wegovy to me, said she could get a “vial”. People are buying that shit from these people. Then injecting it.

however can’t get round the fact very few people are significantly ill. So the risk must be low,

I agree it’s this shit the regulators want to crack down on.

getthosetitsup · 28/12/2024 10:06

"Then she can legally prescribe to her sister. I’m not really sure rhere is an issue here, she will not be prescribing for herself and if her sister is diabetic, and a doctor has approved the medication then she can do the tab and rhe doc will do regular reviews."

Mine is prescribed direct from my DSN. A doctor's name appears nowhere on any of my prescriptions, nor have I ever been reviewed by a doctor in relation to my diabetes.

Can they really prescribe to their own family members? That practice seems ripe for abuse in the wrong hands.

Shrinkingrose · 28/12/2024 10:14

getthosetitsup · 28/12/2024 10:06

"Then she can legally prescribe to her sister. I’m not really sure rhere is an issue here, she will not be prescribing for herself and if her sister is diabetic, and a doctor has approved the medication then she can do the tab and rhe doc will do regular reviews."

Mine is prescribed direct from my DSN. A doctor's name appears nowhere on any of my prescriptions, nor have I ever been reviewed by a doctor in relation to my diabetes.

Can they really prescribe to their own family members? That practice seems ripe for abuse in the wrong hands.

I’m not sure, and I was basing it on my meds, which are reviewed by a doctor every six months, I was not aware that happened, until the tab was late at one point and the receptionist said oh it’s just time for the doc to do the six monthly review.

Mysticmaiden2024 · 28/12/2024 10:16

InfoSecInTheCity · 28/12/2024 07:51

I'd be slightly concerned that she's listed Mounjaro as a semaglutide when it's actually a tirzepatide while I know it's a little pedantic, I have a basic expectation that a prescriber will be able to explain what they are prescribing. If there is any sign that they don't then how could you trust that they understand the risks and benefits of any medication and which will be the right option for you and why?

I know. I went with online prescriber, more for the cost as I didn't know anything about it then. I think it was the legit kwik pen from what she described months ago.

Mysticmaiden2024 · 28/12/2024 10:20

I didn't buy from her. But if no-one knows about mounjaro other than its a weight loss injection and a registered nurse is selling it, she's not just a Facebook random person, she has an aesthetics business, then why would people question it. Like weight loss tablets you can buy from superdrug etc unless you read into it and know legislation, you wouldn't know. I certainly didn't know what semaglutide was or trizepertide, just mounjaro. We only know all this as we have been months into our journey and on forums etc but not everyone reads up on what they are using

Supssups · 28/12/2024 10:26

Shrinkingrose · 28/12/2024 09:42

It’s nearly always wegovy/ozempic, many don’t know th difference between that and mounjaro, I’ve not seen anyone offered mounjaro yet, my hairdresser offered wegovy to me, said she could get a “vial”. People are buying that shit from these people. Then injecting it.

however can’t get round the fact very few people are significantly ill. So the risk must be low,

I agree it’s this shit the regulators want to crack down on.

There are issues being an identified by a&e drs according to a radio 4 programme I listened to. Some links https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2024/nov/mhra-68-people-hospitalised-with-weight-loss-injections.html. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2e7vegnw2do There are always black market and fake products of any popular medicines, the trouble is those naive or vulnerable people who think it’s ok to buy from these sort of practitioners

MHRA: 68 people hospitalised with weight loss injections

Weight loss jabs have been linked with approximately ten deaths, the medicines…

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2024/nov/mhra-68-people-hospitalised-with-weight-loss-injections.html

Doggymummar · 28/12/2024 10:26

Shrinkingrose · 28/12/2024 07:25

Then she can legally prescribe to her sister. I’m not really sure rhere is an issue here, she will not be prescribing for herself and if her sister is diabetic, and a doctor has approved the medication then she can do the tab and rhe doc will do regular reviews.

My mum's a retired pharmacist and it is easy as pie for doctors and nurses to get hold of prescription pads and prescribe anyone anything. The number of doctors hooked on prescription meds is pretty high. She has had to report ( usually to practice manager ) and some have been struck off. Some sought treatment.

Supssups · 28/12/2024 10:29

Shrinkingrose · 28/12/2024 07:25

Then she can legally prescribe to her sister. I’m not really sure rhere is an issue here, she will not be prescribing for herself and if her sister is diabetic, and a doctor has approved the medication then she can do the tab and rhe doc will do regular reviews.

The op has said that the nurse is prescribing for herself, which is a total no no, and prescribing to family members can also be questioned, there’s very good reasons why health professionals are advised not to treat their families!

Shrinkingrose · 28/12/2024 11:07

Supssups · 28/12/2024 10:26

There are issues being an identified by a&e drs according to a radio 4 programme I listened to. Some links https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2024/nov/mhra-68-people-hospitalised-with-weight-loss-injections.html. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2e7vegnw2do There are always black market and fake products of any popular medicines, the trouble is those naive or vulnerable people who think it’s ok to buy from these sort of practitioners

Sure, I didn’t say no one. I said very few. And in the context of hundreds of thousands, it is a tiny percentage.

Shrinkingrose · 28/12/2024 12:36

Supssups · 28/12/2024 12:11

https://inews.co.uk/news/weight-loss-jab-hospital-cases-hundreds-3393590?srsltid=AfmBOoq6Eo9WPFe2WWC-MoJvjsC4S-LJ4GlnMzb07M0Eve5Owi3eWSrV It is obviously going start from a low base but as the the popularity increases, the more incentive there is for black market / fake product traders to get in on the market.

But again it’s tiny, utterly tiny and nearly all minor ailments like sickness or the runs.

in the USA , 16.5 million people on them, 270 odd deaths, all from either reckless usage of folks using fakes. And even then 270 is tiny in 16.5 million.

2000 people a year die from taking nurofen, in the correct dosage.

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