Bmi of 27

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Hi. I have a bmi of 27. Ideally I have at least 2 stone to lose. I was thinking of starting weight loss jabs after seeing 2 friends lose weight. I've just seen that the minimum bmi is 30 though. Friend 1 no way has a bmi of over 25! I don't have any medical issues. Is there no way to sign up for this unless I do it back street style like my friend must be (I won't be doing that).

Some people can get mounjaro at bmi 27 due to ethnicity rather than health conditions. The health conditions considered are varied and don't have to be causing major issues. So someone accessing mounjaro with a lower bmi may still be doing so legitimately

Friend one has a BMI of 27 though. Unless they are on it for diabetes. Or unless they have obtain it fraudulently or through some dodgy 'supplier' of not- Mounjaro

Not at all. I was 58 when I decided enough was enough , and it has been slow going, but I got my BMI down from 29.4 to a healthy 23 and Ive kept it off for 15 months so far and intend keeping it off forever

You have the tools you need, you just need to want to lose the weight more then you want that takeaway/box of chocolates/packet of crisps

I joined SW, its not for everyone, but I need the hand holding, I need the support and I need the accountability , which is why I still go, 15 months after reaching target

Of course Ive had to get moving, and I walk daily, briskly for a few miles, even yesterday I put my coat and hi vis on and out I went - 2 miles - most days I get in around 5 miles , plus Im on my feet at work moving constantly.

It's really about the cutoff. Some people can get it from the nhs and most people who use it here can't. They could also argue that they should be getting it from the nhs instead of forking out hard earned money for it from private prescription but there's a cut off/criteria to meet and the required bmi is higher than the private bmi. So they simply can't. It's just the way it is with everything - you either meet the criteria or you don't.

I don't think anyone is stopping anyone else from getting it otherwise. All I see is people trying to stop people from getting it from dodgy sources - and rightly so.

Hi OP, the eligibility criteria is (ime) a bit more nuanced than simply BMI. I have just been prescribed Mounjaro and have around 2.5 stone to lose to get into a "healthy" BMI range, perhaps a bit similar to you? However I'm mixed race (which affects my BMI) and have medical issues (PCOS, chronic back pain and depression) so all of those factors combined make me eligible.

And to stay thin you need to be able to manage the desire to eat cake and pringles.

The mixed race doesn't mean the BMI isn't relevant. You just gave a different scale. But it's still bmi

@CatKitt
Currently Mourjano isn't available on the nhs for weight loss

Yes I know, that's what I meant.

“the risks to minorly overweight people,like the op. Of the drugs themselves , outweigh the risks of her weight, so she can’t be prescribed.”

Do you have evidence to back this up? Regarding the “risks of the drug itself”.

Or is just your opinion, re: the current prescribing guidelines?

two Things.

if it was not the case do you not think they’d be approved for lower bmi? Any little part of you ? You think maybe they are withholding it for the lols?

secondly. Google is your friend.

Yours too @Queenofthejabs…

https://www.contemporaryhealth.co.uk/medication/eli-lilly-considers-expanding-weight-loss-drug-testing-to-individuals-at-risk-of-weight-gain-regardless-of-bmi/

It’s fairly obvious where this is going…

(The Financial Times article is behind a paywall, btw, but this is an accurate overview)

Ok of course the manfucturer wants to expand, but these drugs are 15 years in th4 testing, and then years after to get approval by the different regulatory authorities.

right now, and for years to come, these drugs are tested and due to the risks are not suitable for people who are below 27 bmi. A manufacturer wanting to sell more doesn’t change it.

I’ve lost over 40 pounds on mounjaro. It has been incredibly easy. My BMI was 29 though, but I think it should be available privately for anyone overweight.

Have you had your cholesterol and blood pressure checked though? You can get free over 40s health checks on the NHS every 5 years if you haven't had it checked recently. I was surprised that both of mine were high, I'm only mid 40s and I thought I had a fairly good diet.

It doesn’t change the fact that you can’t possibly know that the “risks outweigh the benefits”. There isn’t any evidence to support that, it is merely your opinion.

The drug manufacturer doesn’t even know if the risks outweigh the benefits for individuals with lower BMIs.

It is my opinion that it will take nowhere near 15 years to get the results that allow it to be rolled out to people who aren’t obsese. They don’t need to develop and test a new drug from scratch here , just a different trial group for a drug that already has approval for other groups.

Of course I know. We all know. It is logical at its core. If you’re healthy with no medial issues then taking a drug with serious potential risks is of course carrying more risks than if you didn’t.

i can’t even beleive I’m having this conversation. 😂

@Queenofthejabs but why is it called being overweight then if it isn't any causing health problems? Shouldn't it be relabelled normal weight?

Um no, that can’t be a serious question?

It is at least a semi serious question because until 1998 an overweight BMI was set to 27.8 rather than 25.

So on the one hand overweight people are bombarded with messages that it's really bad for them to be overweight and they need to diet.

But when they can't lose the weight and wonder if they could use the jabs it's a bit confusing to suddenly discover that according to you there is no risk to being overweight and it is healthy. Because if there is no risk to health why would it even be termed being overweight?

My personal opinion. I am sure risk of disease starts to rise in the overweight category, of things like breast cancer and diabetes and joint problems. Should people in this category have to wait to actually develop a disease to be prescribed the jabs? Does the risk of the jabs outweigh the risk of being overweight? I don't know. I assume that is what the study mentioned above will show.

All drugs contain risks - they do. Actually most things in life contain risk and it is about the cost/benefit analysis

for every 10 amazing weight loss stories I read there are 1 that have side effects. For every 1000 or so there is 1 serious side effects. I don’t think anyone even the manufacturer is trying to hide these.

for those with health issues and more weight to lose the risks outweigh the benefits. Here they don’t