Fatism

[missslinkyagain]

Do you think as theses injections become more widely available and more and more people achieve a healthy weight, that prejudice towards fat/obese people will diminish or increase?

As people in larger or former larger bodies we all know how the odds can be stacked against us as we go about our daily lives.

So do you think as there are hopefully less obese people around, society will be more tolerant or more scathing of them?

Unfortunately I believe that society as a whole will have more prejudice towards fat people when there are less of us.

I hope that as the research continues into obesity and these meds people will realise that it is so much harder for certain people to stay at a healthy weight and that obesity can be genetic. I hope the current research trends continue and it opens people's eyes.

If the current NHS prescribing rules and drug pricing don't change, I can picture a future where only the relatively wealthy, who can afford WLMs, will be thin. Fat/obese people will be found only among the poor who will then experience the double whammy of being both overweight and poor. The shaming will intensify. We had a glimpse of how it will be when the EL trial involving the unemployed was announced. The media and plenty of posters on here and elsewhere were apoplectic at the thought of helping the poorest members of our society to become healthier. Fat people will be seen as failures - too greedy and lazy to manage their diet 'naturally' and too feckless to earn enough to buy the drugs.

I think they are making it worse. People are resenting the fact that we're 'cheating' our way into being slim and don't deserve the rewards. Every week there is a new thread here saying we should just eat less and move more and how they work hard to stay slim and we have it easy

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There is a lot of hate.

I agree I think it will get worse, when there are less fat people around they will get othered more.

Initially I thought the opposite, that society will realise how hard losing weight is and be more understanding but with recent press I have changed my mind.

I for one won't be telling anyone I am taking skinny jabs

Skinny jabs said in an ironic way

Absolutely agree. The vitriol that is spouted to both those on benefits or poorer people in society and obese people is awful.
It appears that if you find yourself poorer and obese you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. You are vilified for being poorer (get yourself a job, you're lazy etc) and you're vilified for being obese (eat less move more, you're lazy, you're greedy, etc).
I firmly believe that some people find themselves in more fortunate circumstances than others and some people are better equipped (emotionally, physically, mentally) to deal with situations than others. That is purely (in my opinion) an accident of birth.
Yes, you can change your circumstances, yes, you can improve your situation, but some people do not have the life experiences or know how to better their situations.
I count myself as being very fortunate, (even though I am sure some people would hate to be in my situation) but I often think, we are ONLY one or two steps away from losing everything we have and being at the bottom of the ladder and if that happens, I hope that someone would be compassionate enough to give me a helping hand at that time.

I wholeheartedly agree, although I would go further: for the first time in history there is already a firmly established correlation between poverty and obesity and this is going to be dramatically accelerated by GLP-1s. I see this first-hand; I have a disabled child and spend a lot of time taking him to appointments with various HCPs. They assess me in one way when I walk in (or at least they did, at my biggest) and then I would be able to see the moment when I opened my mouth, they heard my stereotypically 'posh' voice and educated vocabulary, and it felt like I could see the wheels turning as they re-evaluated my status and would change their whole demeanour, speaking to me as a fellow professional (even though I am not in healthcare). I am making them sound like crashing snobs and I don't mean to, but anyone who claims that they don't gather information about a person from the way they present is lying.

I think it's really interesting that the people who take it on here often say it silences the voice in their head. As a skinny person I don't have that voice in my head. I don't feel it's cheating to silence that voice any more than it is for someone with ADHD to quieten the voices in their head so they can focus/concentrate for example.

I don't think being over weight will become the preserve of the poor as I think there are plenty of people that aren't that bothered about being over weight and/or don't want to take medication. I wonder how in demand weight loss drugs are by women vs men.

I think that fat people will be treated worse if there are less of us. When I went to school (1960s), there was only one overweight child in the whole school. Overweight adults were treated as a joke.

I think it will probably get worse. There is no one more scathing on smokers than an ex-smoker, I fear it will be the same with obesity.

I am already seeing (soon-to-be) ex-fatties digging their claws into those that might get it on the NHS or god forgive the most vulnerable who struggle so much they can not hold down a job get it for free!!

I think that there will be less Fatism. now that ozempic type drugs have revealed to the population that some of us have much louder food noise than others, it has become clear that fast people should have been given more sympathy and less blame.

More scathing I think.

It's not unusual for people to lose weight and then become preachy/scathing towards fatter people.

And not all overweight people want to risk taking this drug.

When I was a child there were far fewer obese people and there seemed to be very little abuse. Perhaps the odd bit of bullying in the school yard, but nothing as adults. But then there wasn't the same amount of drunkenness or violence or drug taking. And of course no social media.

Now people seem to feel much more entitled to turn on others. I don't think we'll ever get that particular genie back in the bottle.