You shouldn't take weight loss drugs. Learn about healthy eating, eat less and exercise more.

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This is like telling an insomniac "don't take tablets, just get more sleep"

I'm 41.
I have tried.

I KNOW all about healthy eating. Probably more than most slim people.
I don't have an emotional/binge eating disorder, I just have a bigger appetite than most people. I can only control it so long via willpower or low-carb diets. The drive to eat is the most powerful instinct known to man (except maybe breathing)

It's the weight loss medication that takes the edge of said appetite and ALLOWS me the space to make sensible decisions on food.

I've gone from 15 stone to 9 stone (I'm short). If these drugs had been invented 20 years ago, my life would have been much better.

And no, I didn't steal the drugs off a diabetic. I got private prescriptions for Wegovy and then Mounjaro which are only marketed for weightloss.

And yes I am quite prepared to take the drug forever if necessary.

And no, I don't care about the "potential unknown long term side effects" because they can hardly be worse than what I was facing with obesity.

And although exercise is beneficial for many reasons, it is a fairly trivial factor in weightloss.

If anyone's interested, I have just had a small bowl of homemade chilli (with mushrooms and peppers). I will now have 2 After Eights.

I will probably not feel the need to eat again until 11am tomorrow when I'll have Greek yog and fruit.

Unless I get v hungry before bed in which case I'll likely have a piece of cheese or a banana or maybe a mini peperami.

Hard agree

Glad it works for your diabetes after the others didn't.

@Holidays4Ever
"At that point you should take your chances with the rest of us."

Why?

Yes do not see why people are so down on the results of this. Just moral judgement. Says more about the judgy person than anything. People get quite angry about it.

You could eat this without drugs. Start with small changes and your stomach gets used to less food and a different diet.

At the end of the day, it's your money and your body, so it's your choice and no-one else's business.

But you could say that you could get rid of a headache with a litre of water and a good sleep. Or get rid of indigestion by sleeping upright in a chair. Or get rid of acne by waiting five years until you're an adult.

Drugs are not necessarily a bad thing. The effect of using a drug like Mounjaro is you're far, far less likely to suffer from a wide range of illnesses.

Do you also feel that when someone taking antidepressants stops feeling depressed, they should stop taking them?

I have been trying stuff like that since I was about 12 and went on my first diet. Small changes, big changes, nothing sticks.

Without the drug, I would have digested that food by about 9pm (the drug slows down digestion). I'd sit and be grumpy and hungry until about 10pm, trying to resist eating more. Then my body would eventually go "fuck it" I'M HUNGRY and be rooting around in the fridge and cupboards or maybe nipping out to the garage for a load of crisps. (I try not to keep junk food in the house)

Portion control is a funny thing. When I was a teenager, a packet of fish fingers fed the whole family of five. I can't imagine that nowadays. No wonder I was thin!

@MounjaroUser great user name! Out and proud!!

Dunno about anyone else's stomach but mine NEVER got used to small portions without MJ!

I've probably spent more of my life hungry than the most disciplined thin person. :-(

The stomach takes 4-6 hours to empty after eating. Although if your body doesn't like something it with empty faster!

I do not think your prescription should continue once you reach the category Overweight.

At that point you should take your chances with the rest of us

how does op using weight loss drugs affect you?.

I agree with you OP. I was slim until I had children, and then medication for migraine. I'm sure my metabolism changed. I can eat really healthily and exercise but still gain weight. Also, it's very difficult to function if you are still ravenous and trying to eat small portions. It would be much easier if I naturally had a small appetite. Weight loss drugs lessen the cravings and the urge to eat, and I don't think people should be made to feel guilty if they use these drugs to lose weight and improve their overall health.

I think these drugs are a game changer and I wish we had created it in the UK and envy Denmark enjoying their huge financial bump due to it

I am in a healthy range so don't need it but think people should just use it if it helps them. It could be what helps the NHS generally as it becomes more ubiquitous

And there we have it. The helpless bitterness. Not only are we losing weight quite easily, but can also afford the £175+ a month in order to do it. That seriously pisses some people off.

Like you, I'm certain my metabolism has really changed. Partly through age and being peri menopausal, but also because I had to take Tamoxifen for a few years too. Tamoxifen is notorious for making you gain weight as well as increasing your risk of heart disease, stroke and osteoporosis.

Shall I tell you why that is?
Becasue most people who are not overweight have to work at that DAILY. For most slimmer people it is a daily internal battle between a hoard of unhealthy junk food being offered at every turn with your mind saying yes please now, and the other side of your brain having to fight that.
OP do you think slimmer people just find it easy peasy to stay a healthy weight? No. It’s bloody hard. You are not the only person in the world to find it hard- most people do!
Weightloss drugs will destroy your insides (and outsides) far more than being fat will if your take them forever. Who knows what horrible side effects there are.

I had a mate tell me i should embrace my body instead of WLI. Ironically she has had a gastric band.
I exercise, I eat healthily, but binge and the WLI has stopped that.

Why would anyone slim be pissed off or somehow jealous that someone else got so fat they had to resort to paying for weight loss drugs to lose weight? That's a genuine question because it makes no sense to me at all.

@Arraminta good point. It seems to somehow be morally repugnant to have a few extra quid a month or say anything that reveals you do. I hardly think spending £175/m (but on the other hand saving money on food and buying increasingly bigger clothes) makes me the last of the great spenders. Frankly I'd cut corners elsewhere if I had to to make sure I could continue with this drug.

(To anyone wondering about cost - technically my pen is £224/m which is meant to last a month but I take the "secret extra" dose out with a needle so get 5 doses from it. Occasionally I take my dose more/less than weekly depending on how I feel)

Weightloss drugs will destroy your insides (and outsides)

Where is this from? Is there a study or research you are thinking of?

So much anger towards slim people whilst claiming slim people are angry at fat people!

Your stomach gets used to what you give it if you stick with smaller portions / low processed carb and sugar consistently for weeks.
OP you really don’t sound like you know much about eating healthily and how to feel full via natural foods.
You are not a special case. You don’t feel hungrier than the next person. You will lose weight just the same as any other person of your sex and age and activity level. There really is no magic or vodoo behind it.