Right. I'm going to order it now - where???

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I'm taking the plunge. I'm so fed up of being miserable because of my weight and the added aches and pains it brings.

Where is best to order from to get quick delivery? Do you get everything included such as needles and a sharps bin?

Do I need to take any supplements?

I'd really appreciate some help here!

You don't have to go through your GP????

Sorry for my ignorance

Do you have to have a certain bmi?

<bites bullet> can I be cheeky and ask for a code too, please?

Arrrgh!

Didn't mean to post twice 😳😖

Try this thread for codes and providers (mine is on there 😉).

I think you need a bmi over 30 to be eligible, or 27 with a related condition (prediabetic etc). You can check eligibility on Voy in. Few minutes.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/weight-loss-injections/5131241-mnhq-thread-for-referraldiscount-codes-please-dont-post-elsewhere

Edges nose round door

I keep hearing about weight injections

Sorry to jump on someone else's thread but a few queries

What's the cost roughly a month

Where do you get it from

Do you have to eat healthily all/most of the time

Side effects

And I assume once stop injecting does the weight like back on. Same as it seems to do with sw

Or will you be on a constant diet /not eating as appetite has gone

is it dangerous ?

Which brand are you all on ? I keep reading that the M one is better then O

Thank you all very much

If you are buying privately you can go to one of the online pharmacies offering the medication and do an online consultation - usually just answer a few questions on health, current medications, details of GP where you are registered etc, send some photos to show your physic or weight on scales, some ask for ID

The pharmacy will check if you are eligible and prescribe/send the medication to you. Some pharmacies will inform your GP, others will give you a letter to send to and inform your GP yourself.

Very very few people get it prescribed through their GP/NHS.

@Blondeshavemorefun

What's the cost roughly a month - anywhere from £120 - maybe £300 / month depending on strength/provider

Where do you get it from - look in the main mounjaro thread for a list of providers. Their websites give lots of information on the medication. Most people pay for private prescriptions as Drs rarely prescribe on NHS

Do you have to eat healthily all/most of the time - you need to be in calorie deficit to lose weight. The main effect of the medication is to suppress your appetite and stop cravings/obsession with food, so you find it easier to be in calorie deficit. For some people heavy/sweet/fatty food or fizzy drinks/alcohol can cause some GI issues or discomfort (D&V, constipation, headaches).

Side effects - everyone reacts differently, read a few threads to see types of side effects mainly GI again

And I assume once stop injecting does the weight like back on. Same as it seems to do with sw - if you don't change you eating habits yes

Or will you be on a constant diet /not eating as appetite has gone - you need to change the eating habits that made you overweight or it will all come back on again

is it dangerous? - being severely obese is more dangerous for most people. It is an obesity drug, each person needs to weigh up the individual risks and benefit for themselves.

Which brand are you all on ? I keep reading that the M one is better then O - do a google Mounjaro vs ozempic and see the differences between the two they are similar as both GLP-1 receptor agonists but different, Mounjaro appears to be the most effective, popular.

Thank you @Blanketpolicy for all the info

It's a huge cost

@Blondeshavemorefun
For me the cost is offset with lower food bills, less take a ways and less eating out.
I used to nip for a loaf and buy £20 of rubbish regularly

I am with voy, if someone uses your code it's half price, there is a coded thread so you can post on there like I have done

£120 a little ouch. £300 not viable sadly

I have been reading threads over the months

Some lost 2/3st in 3/4mths

I am on one of the lowest doses, I’ve lost 25lbs in 7 weeks, a bit quicker than I’d like but I had a bout of covid as well where I barely ate for a week.

It is giving me enough suppression I am ok to stick with a cheaper low doses for now and use willpower towards the end of the week if they wear off a bit, whereas others feel no suppression on lower doses. It is a bit of a gamble financially, but I need to do something as my health is really being impacted by my weight now.

£300 would be prohibitive for me too.

@Blondeshavemorefun hi, just a little more detail for you 🙂

The top end of the price scale is around the £279 point and is for the two highest dose pens of Mounjaro from companies that offer a full subscription service with weight loss coaches etc. I sat down today and worked out some price differences between various suppliers and think the cheapest for those higher doses is £159.99 (without any discount codes being applied).
Many suppliers offer codes for first timers, codes for repeat customers if you refer other people and some offer price matching too. The cheapest I have seen the 2.5mg is £119.

TBH, price really put me off to start with but now I am 8 weeks in, I would go without other things to pay for this! I have also almost completely stopped drinking so my £200 a month wine habit is funding this! 😂

I bought my first pen from Zava with a discount code that I found on here. I think I paid around £122 including delivery. I bought my 2nd (5mg) pen recently for the same price as someone then used my code. I definitely won't be increasing my dose anytime soon. My code has been used a few more times so I hope to continue buying pens for £122. I'm happy with that!

I do eat healthily, I haven't had a biscuit or chocolate bar since I started, have eaten maybe 3 bags of crisps. Just have no cravings for those things which normally I can't resist!

Obviously we don't believe it's dangerous or we wouldn't take it!

I can't remember anymore of your questions, sorry!

Thank you both.

What's the diff between 2.5/5. Obv one is double

Do all start on lowest dose

I should really have a read up

I'm wary and nervous but intrigued

Tho I don't drink a lot so can't really cut down on something to pay for it iyswim

@Blondeshavemorefun you start on 2.5mg and stay on each dose for a minimum of 4 weeks.

One pen officially lasts 4 weeks, but you can usually get 5 weeks safely out of it. (Pens need to be discarded after 30 days of first use)

The doses go up 2.5mg each time up to a max of 15mg. I am in my 7th week, 5 weeks at 2.5mg, and 3 weeks at 3.75mg (taking smaller dose from pen). You can stick on lower doses if it is continuing to give you the suppression you want.

You also need to have a BMI 30+ to be approved by the prescriber (or 27+ with other medical conditions)

Please can I ask, us there any information to read from people who have used this to get to their goal weight and what happens next?

Are the injections stopped at this point? What proportion of people remain at their goal weight without the meds? Is it likely that once you stop the meds, overtime you end up heavier than before you started?

@HarliLane there is a book called the magic pill, it has lots of good information on the pluses and negative, it helped me decide if this was right for me

@HarliLane there is quite a lot of information on Reddit I’ve found, as Mounjaro has been available in the US longer than here so here I don’t think there are as many people at goal weight.
my understanding is some people taper down and come off it, some people find a low maintenance dose that works for them. But I think maintenance is still an emerging area.
That’s my understanding.

youll see from the threads people take different approaches.

im wanting it to be as light a crutch as possible and to stay on a low a dose as possible.
i dont want total appetite suppression and to not feel like eating at all. I dont want to lose weight really rapidly so people notice too much.

so far its working for me, I manage 3 meals a day just less and it has stopped my binging which is great as beyond the physical effects, bingeing and the associated guilt and shame is really distressing. I’ve lost about 12lbs in 6 weeks from a starting weight of just under 14 stone and am happy with that.

im aiming for a bmi of about 27 which I think will be more realistic to maintain for me (will be a size 14) and hoping that losing some weight will also get me into exercising again.

I would like to lose half a stone. Would it be worth doing for a short while to achieve this then stopping? I'm usually very fit and eat well but it has crept on in Peru over the last year.

I know everyone the weight will come back on etc but really? I would love to know if it is worth doing this - or if anyone has tried similar.

If you only need to lose half a stone this isn't for you.
It's for obesity and you need a BMI of more than 30 to be prescribed it.
It's not for such small weight losses.

I read stats a good few years ago that said only 10% of people maintain weightloss after five years or something, I can't remember precisely! It's so hard to maintain as your body fights hard to go back, this is driven by a complex cocktail of hormones.

A recent study actually suggested that around 56% of people maintain their weightloss a year after stopping weightloss injections.

Lots of old research suggests that if you can make it past two years, you are winning, it increases your chances of maintenance - five years is excellent. Your body eventually adjusts.

Exercise really helps, muscle mass improves your metabolism.

None of us really know what life post-MJ will look like for us, we just have to hope we stay in the group that successfully maintains.

Maybe I'm too cynical!

The weight loss industry ( support groups, books, foods) is money making.
If it succeeds fully there is no money.

When I focus in weight loss I end up weighing more than when I started and end up hooked into a yo-yo cycle.

I am so concerned that these meds will do the same. That once started, I wont be able to stop funding them as each time I do I end up weighing more than before I started.

Great money made for the industry!
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These are absolutely hands down life changing medications for many many many of us. But let’s be absolutely real here - if you stop taking them, without applying a full diet and lifestyle change and keeping it up, you will gain the weight back.

Most people who have a lot to lose and this is their hope of ever achieving this, are really using these as a tool - to change their habits. To learn about nutrition, portion control, to create healthy new habits around food, calories, movement.

These medications are not magic, but they certainly make it a lot easier to implement and then stick to the healthy changes implemented.

The hope would be that you would go into it with the mindset of “tool” vs “diet”, be realistic about goals, calorie deficit, exercise, and will lose steadily over a period of time. And in the meantime form some nee habits and develop some new tools that would support maintenance in the long run.

The folks in the US are way ahead of us on this, but from a lot of forums and reddits I’ve read - those committed to their new lifestyle, have kept the weight off. Some even continue losing as they wean off and go into maintenance.

Obviously for people with metabolic conditions, or other such issues, a super low maintenance dose may be the way forward long-term, and I truly believe this is probably on the horizon given the success these meds have bad so far.

The NHS was not able to provide diabetic people with Ozempic as a licensed treatment for over 9 months last year because there was no stock. This is because so many people were buying it privately.

But yes, absolutely it's a great idea for someone whose normally "very fit" and healthy to buy medication meant for diabetics and clinically obese people to get off their 7 Peru Pounds

You know you'd have to lie about your weight to be authorised? Perhaps you wouldn't have a problem doing that as long as you benefit.