It's not rocket science - "it may cause harm to wean early, it does no harm to leave it till 6m" - WHY do people still want to shovel baby rice in at 12 weeks (or earlier)?

[hunkermunker]

I have come up with some ideas as to why people wean early:

they have competitive baby syndrome and are annoyed someone else's baby rolled first, so they want to get theirs onto steak and chips via baby rice and one fruit or veg a week for months

Well, an idea. Any more?

i knew i shouldn't have clicked on this thread.... only one way it was ever going to go.

excatly
itys liek a " why do poeple liek cod" thread
till only ened in cod bashing

or " hwat si it abtou musmnet"

etcetctec

Maybe you should think about other things, like how you might not be as clever as you appear to think you are vvv.

although cod bashing threads are fun to read as the poor op always ends up getting thoroughly squashed by the baying mob of cod lovers

cod has a charm that this lot sadly lack

tbh i like threads like this i find them educational in many ways. I want to know the "why" behind the guidelines and there is often some really important stuff linked to on here.

So what if some posters come across as being on their soapbox. They might be the only access to decent quality info some mothers have and if that helps mothers to make informed decisions then good on them.

If you really don't care then don't read it.

I think it must be hard for people who follwed the guidelines of their time to now be told that what they did was potentially damaging. But there is sod all they can do about it now and we shouldn't stop emphasizing current info because of this.

Hmm! This thread is HUGE! But here's my thoughts for what they are worth. And yes I am a HV. Going back to HMs original question.

1. I long ago realised that whatever advice I give some people will wean when they want to. If it matters I say six months as does my colleague so I know that in our area we both sing from the same song sheet.

2.HVs are on the decline - our area with 1500 children used to be served by 6 HVs - now there are just two of us and I only work part time. I realise that some HVs are also hopelessly out of date with regrds to - well - everything!

1. Depends on the area - we have a large number of teenage partents who are very influenced by their mothers, grandmothers and older sisters. So although we say six months we often find they are weaning sooner on advice from granny. I do rather despair though when I see babies in buggies with a bag of Wotsits! (and yes- we do discuss this with them).These parents are often poorly educated, living in poverty and just trying to cope from day to day. Weaning - as advised by granny - when their baby won't sleep seems right to them.

4.Some of our paeds locally are saying 4-6 months so giving the impression of some flexibility - as do some GPs.

5.Everyone had their own reasons and I think most parents want to do what they think is right for their baby on an individual basis. So - if they feel that weaning is right at 17 weeks then they will do so.

1. Some are second time (or more) parents who wean when they weaned the first one - me telling them that the advice is now six months cuts no ice when they weaned the first at 12 weeks 15 years ago.

I'm not getting into the whole abuse/non-abuse stuff - this topic is far too complex for that. In my opinion though parents don't wean early because they are abusive but because they genuinely think they are making the right decision for their baby - for a myriad of reasons.

This thread is too long so having added my thoughts I am off to enjoy the day.

Not strange at all. Clearly you can hold your own zookeeper

Plus I found your asking of the same question, and ignoring the same answer that several posters gave you quite irritating, tbh.

Kami - i dont quite get what you mean.

MrsApron - was trying to come up with the right words, but you posted before me! I agree, wouldn't know any of this stuff without reading these threads (and I DO research stuff, but the books I read tend just just tell you what to do rather than why it's important / how important it actually is)

zookeeper you are letting yourself down by continuing to be insulting to vvv.

zookeeper are you a newbie?

I agree Mrs Apron - I wanted to know exactly what were the risks were which was why I clicked. However, when I did ask what the risks were the posse became offended and suggested that I use my babies for research.
I am so angry at the self-righteousness of certain posters.

likeminded as in - people who are interested in discussing infant nutrition. Its daft having a discussing if people just agree with you. Now that IS boring.

Zookeeper - keep on insulting me. It reflects far more on you than it does me.

Because working on diabetes pens on a bank holiday Monday is bloody boring, I've read the thread.

It's vile.

Bullying by the usual suspects.

...and my grandmother (now sadly no longer with us) told me that she found breastfeeding a horrendous ordeal so she struggled with it in the maternity home before going home and sending one of the older children up to the shop for some Carnation Milk. Made me laugh when she told me and still raises a smile now - my Mum was raised on carnation milk.

they feed motherless or rejected kangaroos on carnation in the uk

As I said, I probably am letting myself down but I am so angry at the way that my genuine question about research was ridiculed.
It seems ok for me to be insulted but everyone is up in arms if I retaliate. I should have known by the horribly patronising op what I was in for

I agree that I have probably said too much. I am not a bad person but the patronising comments on this thread have made me see red. The comment about my babies getting a disease was below the belt and upset me. I,m sure if I had said that I would have been hounded out like Cam has been.

BTW have never changed my name unlike many of these posters, I suspect. At least give me some credit for that.

(Zookeeper goes off to calm down)

I weaned all of mine after 6 months (despite the 4 month guideline when ds1 was born ) but they were brought up on, , formula so they are DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED! Da, da, daaaaaaaaaaaah!

Back to diabetes...

Or wedges......

Zookeeper - i admit to being patronising, but only after having been called so by you (and aggressive) when I really truly wasnt being. As I said at the time, hung for a sheep as a lamb and all that. But, I dont want to keep some kind of vendetta running, and I hope we can meet on other threads and not have a problem?

I just feel very passionately about this for aforementioned reasons.

Anyway, Im off to enjoy the lovely bank holiday. Tis a beautiful day.

sorry, how do we know that Cam has been 'hounded out'? have i missed something? we were having a perfectly pleasant conversation last night at about 3am (me working, her insomnia) although the thread appears to have been deleted presumably because of other things said on it. it ended with her saying somethign along the lines of 'thanks for listening' or soemsuch, so i didn't get any continuingly pissed off vibes. as far as i'm aware she just went off to try to get some sleep. seriously, have i missed something or are people just jumping to conclusions?

aragon evap milk was according to my mums hospital given baby book

"an excellent choice for feeding your baby"

(in the 70's)

ok vvv - truce?

bitch

oh god that was a joke befoer you all start