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[DoctorTwo]

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Mine are all different, pokemom like Pinsir and Golduck now have huge HP's, over 2200, but my Blissey that took me forever to evolve and that I spent a fair amount of rare candy, has lost over 1500 cp!

Got shafted on the likes of Rhydon, Golem and Blissey, to satisfy new players and make niantic more money. And this is the second time they've done this? Bastards, I'm raging.

Sorry on, hp

Got shafted on the likes of Rhydon, Golem and Blissey, to satisfy new players and make niantic more money.

TheLazyDuchess No, it’s nothing to do with satisfying new players or making Niantic more money.

The stat rebalance was needed because PVP is coming, and certain Pokemon eg. Blissey were just ridiculously advantaged. It would make PVP pointless and they couldn’t take Blissey out the game, so a stat rebalance was in order.

So what about the other pokemon they changed? Like my shiny pinsir that lost a lot of cp/while my regular pinsir (that was already way higher cp than the shiny) went up in cp? Where's the logic in that? I've seen people commenting in a few places that lots of new players were complaining gyms battles are too hard, because of pokemon like Blissey?

"PVP is coming, and certain Pokemon eg. Blissey were just ridiculously advantaged."
But most players above lvl 30 have a Blissey? Only an advantage against those that don't have them (newer players)?

I feel quite shafted either way, cracked and used a lot of rare candy last week, and it feels like that was all for nothing/pointless? Take Arcanine, I used 3 rare candies to power it up, needn't have bothered and wish I hadn't since it's cp has went up so much. Also, everyone is just going to power their Blisseys back up again, if/when they can?

TheLazyDuchess All Pokemon have had a stat rebalance to make them work better within the current and future game mechanics.

The stat rebalance has been known about for weeks, so nobody should have been doing any major Pokemon changes.

You shouldn’t be using rare candies on Pokemon like Arcanine anyway as it’s a waste. Rare candies are best spent on legendary Pokemon you have few candies for or Pokemon you will battle with that are in need of powering up. Arcanine falls into neither of those categories.

The logic in why the stat rebalance has occurred is extremely complex. It’s not been done lightly or for the fun of it.

Also, everyone is just going to power their Blisseys back up again, if/when they can?

Max CPs have been altered, so no. Your Pokemon still retain the same power relative to their CP.

But most players above lvl 30 have a Blissey? Only an advantage against those that don't have them (newer players)?

I missed this. It’s nothing to do with an advantage in terms of having a Blissey vs. not having a Blissey. Blissey was unfairly advantaged stats wise and needed to be nerfed in order to work correctly with future game mechanics like PVP.

"The stat rebalance has been known about for weeks"

No one told me about it? So what's Blisseys new max cp? Mine wasn't maxed out yet, would be nice if I could even get it back to roughly the cp it was? (And if I can, what was the point..?)

"Rare candies are best spent on legendary Pokemon"

Only I don't have any legendary pokemon, because I don't get out to raid much, because of DS. And Arcanine's been my favourite pokemon from I was about 10 years old..? Although the new cp isn't satisfying to me, because it just appeared? I put no thought or effort into it, so it doesn't please me the way powering up did? Iyswim.

No one told me about it?

TheLazyDuchess You not keeping up with the news Niantic releases isn’t their fault.

So what's Blisseys new max cp? Mine wasn't maxed out yet, would be nice if I could even get it back to roughly the cp it was? (And if I can, what was the point..?)

That depends on your level. For level 20, it’s 1575; for level 30 it’s 2364 and for level 40 it’s 2757.

I don’t think you understand game mechanics or how the stats work in general, which is fine, not everybody needs or wants to, but CP isn’t the be all and end all of a Pokemon.

Blissey’s stats (HP and defense) have changed (which ultimately has affected CP). Maxing our Blissey thankfully won’t ever make them as powerful as before due to this; they were unfairly advantaged.

Only I don't have any legendary pokemon, because I don't get out to raid much, because of DS.

That’s fine, that’s why I added the “or”. Although legendary Pokemon have been available over the summer in research rewards so I assumed most players have at least one from those.

And Arcanine's been my favourite pokemon from I was about 10 years old..? Although the new cp isn't satisfying to me, because it just appeared? I put no thought or effort into it, so it doesn't please me the way powering up did? Iyswim.

Okay, we all have our favourite Pokemon. However, Arcanine doesn’t require that many candies, isn’t too rare, is easily walked and isn’t that great in battle; hence my reasons behind using rare candies on it being a waste.

"You not keeping up with the news Niantic releases isn’t their fault."

I'm a single parent, with other intetests, who just about has time to actually play the game, never mind spend however long on google every day, looking for news about the game? The news feature in game is usually enough for me..? (And why it's there..?).

"I don’t think you understand game mechanics or how the stats work in general" I understand that a Blissey with 1999 CP, is going to go down faster than a Blissey with 2364 CP or 2757 CP? That's just common sense..?

"Rare candies are best spent on legendary Pokemon you have few candies fororPokemon you will battle with that are in need of powering up. Arcanine falls into neither of those categories."

Just thought, if Arcanine isn't any good for battles, why has it's cp gone up so much? Surely if it's no good for battles, it would have been adequate as it was..?

I'm a single parent, with other intetests, who just about has time to actually play the game, never mind spend however long on google every day, looking for news about the game? The news feature in game is usually enough for me..? (And why it's there..?).

The news is readily available in various places (I even posted it here). It is not their fault if you aren’t up to date.

I understand that a Blissey with 1999 CP, is going to go down faster than a Blissey with 2364 CP or 2757 CP? That's just common sense..?

The game isn’t that simple. It all depends on movesets, type, weather, level, IV, powering up and so on.

Just thought, if Arcanine isn't any good for battles, why has it's cp gone up so much? Surely if it's no good for battles, it would have been adequate as it was..?

I shall say it again: CP isn’t the be all and end all. A high CP doesn’t mean a lot; it just means it’s a high level, which doesn’t help in terms of stats, game mechanics and excellent performance in raids and battles. High CP is useless on any Pokemon if when you’re fighting you’re not using all the tools at your disposal as mentioned above.

Arcanine isn’t useless and can be used in battle, however it isn’t worth powering up and many Pokemon far outclass it in terms of stats and movesets.

I'm looking forward to getting my first Sinoh stone to be able to evolve my 100%, maxed out (for L38) Rhydon

Can we all be a little bit nicer to each other please? this is supposed to be a fun, light-hearted thread.

I get that some Pokémon, stats wise aren't worth powering up but there's a difference between that and a Pokémon you love that you want to max out - in which case using candies isn't a waste.

Yes I agree with SneakyGremilns. I'm sure it's not intentional but there is sometimes an unpleasant tone used by certain posters. It's only a game!

For what it's worth I do think there should have been some sort of in game notification about the rework. That's surely what the news stream is for. I did know it was coming so not a surprise to me but it really is not unreasonable to expect news about the game to be made available in the in-game news function.

I think it was in the game news but they undid it didn't they? And I don't think we were told the second time when it was ACTUALLY coming.

Apologies if I was rude, it wasn't intended (to anyone other than Niantic)

Anyways, looking forward to getting and using a Sinnoh stone, but not sure what to power up first. Not enough candy to evolve Misdreavus yet, so maybe a Magmar or Muckrow (be nice to actually do something with all that Muckrow candy).

Tomorrow is my seven day streak but I'll probably get a king's rock

I think you can only get the Sinnoh Stone from your research breakthrough sneaky so you shouldn't get a kings rock from it. Mine is tomorrow too. I did get a kings rock from my 7 day pokestop streak today.

You weren't rude Duchess, don't worry. I'm very much of the opinion that the 'correct way to play the game isn't right for everyone. I'm not that fussed about attacking teams and raiding parties but I do want to catch 'em all and complete my dex.

No you weren't rude Duchess.

I had my seven day research reward today so got my stone. I've gone for rhyperior as I had a high cp 96% one. However it has terrible moves so was a waste (I only play solo so get very few tms)

My rhyperior has poor moves. Can I use one of those Fast TM or Chatged TM things on it?

Oh, and you weren’t rude Duchess. I play the game my way for my enjoyment and wouldn’t dream of telling anybody how they should or shouldn’t play.

I think I'll evolve my shiny murkrow.

Finally got my Deoxys today 😊

I used a bunch of my rare candy to get an Empoleon early, purely because I love penguins 😊

It wasn't you that was rude Duchess. I think some on this thread should be mindful how they come across. Not needed on a fun thread. And yes, people can play (including using their rare candy) as they wish.

What @SneakyGremlins said

I was PROMISED a nice light hearted thread, PROMISED goddamn it!!

My current bugbear is raids finishing about 4 seconds too soon - anyone else had that?