I have been very stupid and not thought this through properly...re re ds's newish GF and presents .These are all a no no right ?

[bizzey]

Been very careful at home with food and stuff ,.got a bit carried away on Christmas presents (1st one)
I was going to do her a little beauty /pamper hamper .
But some of the stuff ..is :
Elemis ,Clarins and YSL .
Can I use any of them ?
I do have "my little eco" stuff as well .
Have I got to start again ? !
Thanks .

Sorry, I expect I’m missing something here (well, I know I am!) but what exactly is the issue with those particular brands? You seem to have missed some key information!

Why a no no? You think you’ve spent too much? It depends on context on how much spend on other people/how the relationship is

@MrsTimRiggins glad it’s not just me who was confused!

Should say new as in 10 months together ...just this is the 1st Christmas .

Well given the topic, I assume the context is that she's vegan and these products probably aren't, unless explicitly marked as such.

I think the OP is thinking that they're not vegan friendly brands?

@bizzey

Should say new as in 10 months together ...just this is the 1st Christmas .

… still clear as mud I’m afraid!!

Don’t go all OTT on gifts for her. Just keep it simple and cheap. She’ll be embarrassed if you make a big deal - unless of course you’re multi millionaires 🤣

Ooops ...this is the Vegan board .
Sorry ...
Are these suitable for a vegan .
( And I moan at my DC's for lack of clarity in their texts !)

@stalkersaga

Well given the topic, I assume the context is that she's vegan and these products probably aren't, unless explicitly marked as such.

Oh!! I missed the topic, just clicked on this via active. Apologies. If this is the case, I think if she is vegan, it would be thoughtless to give her non-vegan friendly items as a gift.

Have you started this hamper and realized it's going to cost too much?

Stop now. Wrap a couple of the items and save the rest for her Birthday.

If she is into beauty she will know the cost and be highly embarrassed if you go overboard.

That's really thoughtful of you... But yes I would probably stick to vegan products to be safe!

@MrsTimRiggins

Sorry, I expect I’m missing something here (well, I know I am!) but what exactly is the issue with those particular brands? You seem to have missed some key information!

It's posted in the vegan topic.

Most beauty products are not ethically vegan.

I think the issue is the double one of
a) are the individual products vegan, and
b) are the companies cruelty-free

I think you'll need to google each product and company

Are you also looking for good brands that are vegan-friendly?

Oh.
No idea if they're vegan.

I'll be off...

@Spaghettio
Thank you !
Yes I suppose I should have just asked if these brands were vegan .

It’s unlikely they are vegan suitable unless stated and if she’s vegan because of animal rights reasons then a quick google will tell you those brands are not considered cruelty free. Unfortunately, you may need to rethink.

Unless they specifically say that they are vegan and cruelty free then they almost certainly aren't I'm afraid. Most brands use being vegan and cf as a selling point if they can so I would expect this info to be clearly stated on the products. I can't help with alternatives I'm afraid but I'm afraid I wouldn't give them to her. You sound really thoughtful though, hope you can return them and find something else. If not then hotel chocolat do an amazing box of vegan chocolates which would make a lovely gift.

No, you can’t give Elemis, clarins or YSL products to a vegan. They are all tested on animals - any company that sells its products in China does this which rules out most big companies unfortunately.

Well spotted in time.

Plenty of time to find something vegan friendly.

Murad is cruelty free and a lot of their products are vegan if you’re looking for luxury skincare

Buy her a voucher? And maybe something small (and vegan) as someone who is gluten intolerant some of my most thoughtful gifts come for a lady who freaked out and wrapped me some gluten free angel cakes at the last minute she freaked out afterwards because she had never seen me eat anything like that I pointed out that was because they were expensive and I couldn't afford them I LOVED THEM I just couldn't afford them

Superdrug does a lovely young vegan range called ''B''. No experiments on animals and no animal contents. I'm vegan and would not touch Clarins or YSL for their history alone. Or you could go for the original anti cruelty make-up = BWC - Beauty without Cruelty. There are loads around now.

Elf are nice, I got my friend a lovely little kit of small size beauty products

I guess it depends why she's vegan? Maybe check with your DS if she only uses vegan products?