Right, after this I shall say no more about it. The Lleyn is totally, totally bloody gorgeous.

[Slubberdegullion]

Have just returned from two amazing weeks.

One day of rain, just one. The rest of the time we had SUN sun, yes sun big massive hot round ball, put on glasses and a hat, smear on the factor 40, phew I need another ice cream, bugger me it's hot, my word I have a brown body and a white arse sun. IN WALES.

It is SO nice over there. A few piccies on profile. Completely beautiful. Reminds me quite a lot of Cornwall but is more exciting will big ruggedy hills.

Hardly any other buggers there either so that also added to the magic.

Beaches are excellent.
Sea is cold but bracing and really clear and blue (looks as though it could be tropical island hot, then you get the bracing suprise).
Locals are lovely.
Porth Oer cafe still doing the cheddar and chutney paninnis, DH in gastronomic beach snackerage heaven.

Oh it's just very nice indeed. We will be returning in the summer.

oh I had wonderful dressed crab in Nefyn. I never found moondog's secret crab man .

I had a secret MN message already to give to him to pass on to her, but it was not to be .

where in nefyn?

eating isn't very exciting there, i don't think...although they have got a curry house there now i notice...not sure if that's necessarily a good thing though.

any other good places to eat on the lleyn?

Well it was at that pub which is between nefyn and morfa nefyn on a roundabout. It has a very Welsh name but a picture of a monk (I think) on the sign. And the childrens play fort. God my two love that play fort. That is why we go there (although the food is good), but mainly as DH and I can have a conversation

Oh I'm getting all nostalgic. Pre kids DH and I would go mackerel fishing off the back of a friends boat, we would drop anchor in the bay by Ty coch and swim to the pub for a drink, before heading back to the beach in Nefyn and BBQing the fish we'd caught.

OOhh I think we may have to do a return trip in the summer hols...we haven't been there for 3 summers and the last time we did go DS3 was conceived

yeah, that's the only place i know round there really...it's quite nice foodwise, isn't it, but it's absolutely chocca on an average summer's evening...

i've always avoided pwhelli because of the butlins that was there in the 70s/80s (which to be fair, me and my teenage mates went to 20 odd years ago!)...but has is gone a bit "abersoch" these days? i might go and see next time we're there...even just for a nice family restuarant or two.

blimey, i'd love to move there...mind you, we nearly moved to bath a couple fo years ago, so it might just be part of our rightmove fetish/obsession!

wow, upto, that sounds like a brilliant thing to do! so cool! swimming back after a few guinesses might be a problem though!

still never been to ty coch...i vow to go there this summer.

and hee hee...you saucy devil...and on an innocent, old-fashioned family seaside holiday!

It's not gone completely abersoch but there are hints of rahhness creeping in (posh nicky nacky shops, lack of overwhelming plastic tat).

There is (what looks like) a big Haven place nearby, would that have been the Butlins in your day Stephen?

in my day, indeed, slub... i'm in my prime, i'll have you know!

yes that's the place. we used to wild camp just along the coast and sneak in to tempt the young ladies of liverpool and manchester who'd rather their parents would have taken them to magaluff with promises of a slow dance to the 'lady in the red' and a lukewarm pot noodle back in the tent!

and did you have much success with that technique?

what do you think?

Well a slow dance in the back of a tent to lady in red sounds quite exotic. It's the pot noodle that may have been the deal breaker.

hee hee...depends on which part of manchester the young ladies in question were from.

by the way, whistling sands. ever heard it whistle?

nope. but it does go

eek eek eek

when you walk on it. I think that is meant to be the whistle.

yeah it does, doesn't it...but not always.

i noticed this for the first time when we were on our last trip there last summer...i'd been going there for 30 odd years and that was the very first time...i was spooked!

i get so very sentimental when i'm there..for those long ago childhood summer hols...we used to have a week there most augusts in the 70s and just into the 80s.

and i absolutely love driving along the country lanes on the way home from the beach with everyone having a snooze...reminds me of my dad driving us back and makes me feel like a proper grown up!

awww you and colditz have all gone all super childhood holiday memories sentimental on this thread.

It's very lovely.

Now if only the bastard british weather could just behave during the summer holidays then I will never have to consider going abroad again.

yeah, but the lleyn has its own special sunny micro-climate...erm, or something.

i can't be arsed with all the airport bollocks anymore...i'll spare the baby boy his pram being tested for explosives again...plus i actually have been feeling a bit guilty for all the easyjet/ryanair flights we took when we just had the one or two nippers in tow. the carbon fundamentalists have probably got a point, haven't they?

anyway, global warming won't affect us when we're living on the clifftops in nefyn...it'll just make the sea that bit more closer