Have you ever felt the presence of evil?

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I mean, without having any rational reason to feel it? It could be a person or a place.

For me, a friend's father used to really radiate evil - much later, my friend confessed that he had been physically and emotionally abused by his father

I also knew a woman who had a senior job with the police. She was a friend of a friend and I had a bad feeling about her. She eventually got struck off and imprisoned for stealing huge amounts of money from a children's charity she was in charge of.

As I understand, Thomas Hamilton didn't have any association with the Cubs, he had his own boys group.

Christabelpankhurst "Kamloops was so weird we changed our plans, cancelled our hotel and drove on. Just a very weird, uncomfortable vibe there."

Wow, that's fascinating to me. I wonder what on earth is going on to cause that feeling.

Was unwell in bed at our previous house with a high temperature when I had the feeling of something evil coming up the stairs into the bedroom. I then felt like someone was trying to strangle me. I kept shouting "Get off me" then it went. DH thinks I was hallucinating because of my temperature. I don't know. It just felt pure evil.

You may be right, myotherusernameisbetter, my mum told me this and I may have conflated whether it was a Cub group or his own group. It was certainly an organised group for boys, that was for sure. Thanks for the correction.

Nope, you were right Mrspeterrabbit - I've just checked, he did have an association with the Scouts early on (up until about '74) but was removed because of his strange behaviours and possible abuse of boys - he then set up his own clubs.

Three times. Once last week. Three of us walking to the car, one ahead with the dog and two of us behind chatting. A man was walking in the same direction in such a way that he was between us. I was very uncomfortable and sped up. When we got in the car, we all locked our doors and then all said what bad vibes we got off him for no good reason.

On another occasion, while in an empty park, an old man passed us, walking in the opposite direction. My daughter and I both sped up and when we thought we were out of earshot, agreed we both felt horrible as he passed. When I thought we must be far away I turned and he had changed course and was following us. We ran and so did he. We made it to another group and asked for help. He slowed down and walked past but we were really shaken up.

Lastly, and I feel rather ashamed about this, I was on a bus and a young woman had a baby boy of about 10 months on her lap. This one I can't explain but, the baby really unsettled me and I couldn't envisage him being anything but cruel when he grew up. I just can't explain that one but it was the strongest bad vibe I've ever experienced.

I once went to stay in a B&B in Wales with my mum and my two boys. We usually stay in the premier inn or with our family but on this occasion we couldn't get in anywhere else (it was a family wedding we were attending) and so we booked into this place.

The moment we got there I just felt off. The owner came to the door and let us in, all smiles and friendliness but...I couldn't put my finger on it, but he made me wildly uncomfortable. He showed us to our room, which was a huge family room, with two single beds in one area, then a little corridor with a bathroom and then another room at the end of this little hall with another two single beds. We dumped our stuff and headed out to see the family. I remember my mum laughing at me as I'd really taken against the owner.

When we got home later the plan was for the two kids to sleep in the room at the end of the corridor. Well, they just wouldn't have it. They both cried (they could see us from their beds) and were really distressed, so I swapped places with my youngest. I didn't sleep a wink. I was frightened all night long, I'd drop off to sleep and wake up a moment later with a start staring at a weird door that was in the room. Just felt dread all night long.

The next morning, I dragged myself downstairs to breakfast where the owner stood at our table with his burly arms crossed just talking at us the whole meal . During the course of this conversation he asked us how we slept. I said something like "well, it was a long journey and I was tired but I just couldn't settle" he said "[creeeeepy chuckle] Oh yes, we get lots of people say they have trouble sleeping in that room [mad eyes], once we had a pair of elderly ladies staying and they complained they couldn't sleep in there so that night I dressed up in some of the old clothes we found in the loft, covered my face in talc and let myself into their room in the middle of the night! [creepy laugh] How they screamed!"

I swear on my life this is true.

Fucking loon. Mum didn't laugh so much at my dislike of him after that. We had to stay another night and again I didn't sleep a wink but this time I was frightened of the man.

They did a midnight flit and no longer run that B&B!

Not evil exactly but I was travelling abroad with friends and we'd hired a camper van that we were all sleeping in at a camp site and in the middle of the night it was so tropically hot I couldn't sleep. I'd already tried sleeping on the driving seats but was still too hot so took my blanket and just lay down on the grass to sleep. Later in the night I woke up but had a weird feeling and my head told me to just go back to sleep and definitely not open my eyes. I did this but in the morning when we all woke up we realised we'd had all our money stolen from the glove box of the van where I'd left the door unlocked. I sometimes worry what would have happened if I'd opened my eyes.

I haven't caught up. I read some of the recommended book earlier in the thread. Interestingly it states dark humour is often correct. This tragically sad headline struck me www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3266093/Becky-Watts-s-step-brother-controlling-girlfriend-jury-told.html

I was thinking more your GM's influence on everyone around him Qwert

Poor kid if they all listened to GM.

I'm sure they didn't though, and GM was just psychic though, ey?

I went into a local small supermarket on a corner and as I went in a man was stood to one side -just something about him made me notice. I stood choosing something from a shelf and I felt really uncomfortable found he was stood a little behind me, dismissed it - then it happened again and again he had to be following me around the shop. I got in the queue and I could feel he was right behind me - didn't need to look round I just knew and he wasn't too close or anything- but it made my neck prickle. I knew he would follow me out the shop so as I got to the front I pretended I had forgotten something so he had to go first (and as I suspected he did only have one or two items -I had a basket full -he would have been seconds at the till). He left the shop and I saw him go off in the opposite direction from where I needed to, round the corner. I left it 10 mins or so - paid and cautiously walked out - couldn't see him - started walking home and he stepped out from a doorway in front of me and asked me if I spoke French ()- I just said no and carried on walking - he followed me - I crossed the road, he crossed the road. By now I was very nearly home - so I discreetly got my keys ready in my hand and strolled round a corner and then ran hell for leather and got in before he saw me - it was a block of flats and I was too scared to put any lights on in case he noticed them and knew where I lived - one of my (male) flatmates got home half an hour later and found me sitting in the dark.
Fast forward a couple of years and he was in the news arrested for a murder. He was later found innocent. But it came out he was well know to police and had committed a series of indecent assaults. At first I didn't even realise it was this person until I saw a different picture and it completely freaked me out.

Very interesting thread, how we can just know!

When I was a small girl, next door's music teacher brought an instrument over to our house as a surprise gift for the boy next door. I think the parents had bought it for either christmas, or his birthday but asked for it to be given to my parents, to hide until the big day.
Anyway they were all downstairs talking when I walked in the room. I became really upset. When he left I kept asking questions about the 'mean man with the moustache'. My mum and dad both agreed he seemed really charming and polite.

Weeks or months (hard to remember now as I was so small) they were watching the early evening news, when up pops a photograph of the music teacher that I thought was so mean. He had been arrested and charged with the murder of his wife. He had his lover tie him up to make it look like they had been broken into.

No more psychic than the many others on this thread I expect, Tiffany

I've never sensed it in others but someone said it about me once.

It was 20 years ago when I was in my early 20s. I was on a pub with a group of friends and a stranger came up to me and started screaming at me that I was evil and that she knew I killed babies and drank their blood. She then picked up a heavy glass ashtray and tried to though it at me but was wrestled out by bar staff. It still makes me feel physically sick when I think about it. Obviously I don't do what she accused me of but I do sometimes worry that she saw something "bad" in me. But she was probably just on drugs or something.

regretsihaveafew can you remember which Oxford quad gave you the bad feeling?

The church at Godshill on the Isle of Wight has a real bad vibe. St Boniface's church at Bonchurch (Ventnor) is completely the other way.

Kamloops was just an ordinary town, perfectly fine and lovely lake just like home I thought !

Boxoffrogs123 Good. Where's "home" approximately?

Great thread!

There's a village called Clophill near me with the ruins of an old abandoned church at its heart. Supposedly, it was built the wrong way round, an upside down cross, hence being abandoned. The area surrounding the church just exudes evil. It's not just the church but also the eerie semi-circle of dug up gravestones near it's entrance, crumbling and ominous in the dark. shiver Definitely felt evil there.

I also stayed in a chateau in the middle of France alone during a press trip. Felt uneasy the moment I stepped into the room. That night, I woke to the sound of creaking and the feel of something brushing against my skin. Found out the next day a man had killed himself in there and the tips of his swaying feet would have been right above my head as he hung from the beams above.

I became very ill very suddenly in Glastonbury town! Loved the Abbey and enjoyed my morning there. Got into the town and became gradually more and more dizzy and sick. I ended up actually throwing up in a bin! It was like being sea sick. Felt fine once we'd driven away. I've only remembered that from reading this thread.

It has also reminded me of something odd which happened to me when i was in my late teens. I was babysitting an older friend's 3 yer old for the day. Her house was on it's own in some Woodland (nr Rickmansworth) and had a number of pathways to follow around it for a nice walk. The day i was looking after the boy was a lovely hot summer day and i thought it would be nice to pop him in his push chair and take him out. We followed a quiet path for about 20 mins which led to a shallow river which ran under a bridge. I stopped there and we looked at the water and listened to the birds.

Then all of a sudden the whole place felt wrong, as if i'd trespassed into something or someone very evil's private place and they'd seen me. It even seemed to go unnaturally silent. I packed the little boy back into his chair and shot back up that path with my heart bloody pounding! I felt as if i was in the nick of time and that at least part of the way back i was being followed. Horrible.

Grunt the Lake District , I loved Canada it's like home but much more space , less tourists and a very lovely place

I've had it a few times. There was a woman who gave me the creeps who were involved in a church group I went to. I have no reason to feel creeped out by her, she's been nothing but lovely, but I had an extreme overprotective urge when she picked up my then 3 year old DS. He was perfectly safe, I'm usually happy for people to hold my DCs, I see her now and then (don't go to the same group anymore).

I've had it in different locations too, most recently, there's a play park near me that just sometimes goes very very still and quiet and I always feel completely terrified when that happens, even when there's other families around (so it's not a suddenly feeling alone and vunerable sort of way).

I've never had a moment of finding out a reason for my sudden terrors, so no 'tidy' story, sorry! Just the feeling.

Recently when we were on holiday in the Scottish Highlands we came across this clootie well. You drive past these trees with all the rags hanging off them, I found it creepy as hell, it gave me a really bad panicky feeling as if something terrible had happened there, I couldn't get away from it quick enough. I don't know how people can stand to be there for long enough to add their own rags.

Boxoffrogs123 I really loved our journey through that part of Canada, particularly Banff, where I felt completely at home. I actually miss Banff, to the point where I regularly look at the 12 webcams there. Jasper was OK, but I didn't feel as comfortable there as I did at Banff. Kamloops, though, was just an awful, menacing place., which we we couldn't wait to leave.

Ok this might sound a but scary - and it wAs at the time but shortly after I had my first child I was so sleep deprived that I actually started hallucinating a bit. I kind of convinced myself I could see good and evil in people's faces. When my health visitor came to see me I translated her obvious concern that I needed to sleep so badly as massive Frodo Baggins type eyes (hi know that bit in the LOTR where the ring is trying to take control of him). It was flipping trippy. I often wonder how close I came to losing my mind in those first few weeks :(