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Is it true about Charlotte Dujardin withdrawing from the Olympics?

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Freakwave897 · 23/07/2024 16:21

Or is it fake news?

It’s so disappointing if true…

I am a huge fan and can’t quite believe what I am hearing.

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HappierTimesAhead · 24/07/2024 15:43

StripedPiggy · 24/07/2024 15:32

I have just watched the video. It’s horrendous. There can be no excuses, and no mitigation. She has betrayed the sport which made her famous and the fans who looked up to her. I don’t mind admitting that I cried while watching her & Valegro dance to ‘Land of Hope & Glory’ on that incredible day in Greenwich Park in 2012. 🇬🇧

Charlotte has been a heroine to so many of us for so long that it’s sad to see her career destroyed like this, but she has no one to blame but herself. She must never represent Britain again. I hope all her sponsors dump her, I hope she is kicked out of the sport, I hope her pupils desert her and I hope her business goes bust.

As for why it was released now, the motives are clearly and obviously malicious : To destroy Britain’s chances at the Olympics and to destroy Charlotte’s career. Well, hats off to them, because they have succeeded.

Hopefully they've also ruined the future of Dressage at the Olympics.
Ridiculous people who think dressing up and abusing animals is sport. No one apart from a tiny minority have any respect for them.

SweetAda · 24/07/2024 15:43

I don't think it was malicious beyond wanting to get maximum publicity for the idea that doing this is wrong

Agreed. It was effective. Not malicious. The only things that's malicious is how Dujardin treated this horse, and probably many others.

GradGirl · 24/07/2024 15:43

poppymango · 24/07/2024 15:41

Just saw the video. Desperate. That poor animal.

I also really feel for the kid riding it. I imagine the horse is the child’s pride and joy. So chuffed to have a lesson with CD sponsored by someone which turns into this horror show.

SweetAda · 24/07/2024 15:46

Isn't it odd how whistleblowing is so often portrayed as malicious? Poor unfairly treated abusers. 😬

caringcarer · 24/07/2024 15:47

I've seen the video clip now and honestly believe she should be banned from owning or working with horses for life. She whips the poor horse repeatedly and laughs.

Floralnomad · 24/07/2024 15:47

As for why it was released now, the motives are clearly and obviously malicious : To destroy Britain’s chances at the Olympics and to destroy Charlotte’s career. Well, hats off to them, because they have succeeded
She has destroyed her own career and actually the fact that it was released before the games started means we have been able to put in the reserve combo . If they had wanted to affect the olympics they would have waited until the event started .

oakleaffy · 24/07/2024 15:47

GradGirl · 24/07/2024 15:43

I also really feel for the kid riding it. I imagine the horse is the child’s pride and joy. So chuffed to have a lesson with CD sponsored by someone which turns into this horror show.

The girl riding the unfortunate animal by the sounds of it had a complicit mother- the one giggling like a schoolyard bully.

They were all complicit.

The cruelty video, along with it's utter utter disrespect for a horses' wellbeing should have been made public YEARS beforehand.

CDJ commenting about people not knowing how to hit horses hard enough? Unreal.

Freakwave897 · 24/07/2024 15:48

AnnieMcFanny · 24/07/2024 15:40

As for why it was released now, the motives are clearly and obviously malicious : To destroy Britain’s chances at the Olympics and to destroy Charlotte’s career. Well, hats off to them, because they have succeeded

I find your condemnation of what she’s done very strange when you’ve coupled it with your comments above.

The fact is that she destroyed her own career and is responsible for the position the team is in now.

To be fair, that poster also wrote, immediately above your quoted piece,

“She must never represent Britain again. I hope all her sponsors dump her, I hope she is kicked out of the sport, I hope her pupils desert her and I hope her business goes bust.”

No one is defending her here.

Who knows what the motives were for releasing it now?

Let’s hope top of the list is horse welfare.

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SerafinasGoose · 24/07/2024 15:52

GradGirl · 24/07/2024 15:43

I also really feel for the kid riding it. I imagine the horse is the child’s pride and joy. So chuffed to have a lesson with CD sponsored by someone which turns into this horror show.

No doubt the owner trusted Dujardin's expertise and the fact that she knew what was doing when it came to horses. But even if you think (wrongly) that excessive use of the whip is okay, it's the horse's behaviour that's the clincher.

All riders have ridden horses that kick and buck a bit before, when they're in a lazy or ornary mood and don't want to respond to command. But the way this animal was bucking and shying in fear would have made me as a rider extremely nervous. I'd have HAD to remonstrate. Of course, that would likely have made a young rider fear looking incompetent in front of the 'expert' too.

If nothing else, the horse's reaction showed how wrong and shocking Dujardin's methods were. I've never seen a horse 'trained' in this way, or showing fear like this with a rider on their backs. Ever.

GradGirl · 24/07/2024 15:54

oakleaffy · 24/07/2024 15:47

The girl riding the unfortunate animal by the sounds of it had a complicit mother- the one giggling like a schoolyard bully.

They were all complicit.

The cruelty video, along with it's utter utter disrespect for a horses' wellbeing should have been made public YEARS beforehand.

CDJ commenting about people not knowing how to hit horses hard enough? Unreal.

Wow I had no idea @oakleaffy. So is it just the sponsor that was horrified enough to raise it? Shocked.

How awful to think a young girl thinks this is ok.

Freakwave897 · 24/07/2024 15:54

SweetAda · 24/07/2024 15:46

Isn't it odd how whistleblowing is so often portrayed as malicious? Poor unfairly treated abusers. 😬

People are speculating about malice simply because the Olympics starts in two days.

That doesn’t mean that anyone is defending this horrible abuse.

No one knows why it was timed for now but horse welfare, maximum impact, and Olympic competition are all possible.

Either way, abuse is abuse. We don’t need to fall out on here when everyone on this thread is in agreement that CD’s actions are abhorrent.

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GradGirl · 24/07/2024 15:58

I approve of the timing actually, maximum exposure. If anything opens the way to proper action in this country it will be this.

poppymango · 24/07/2024 15:59

GradGirl · 24/07/2024 15:43

I also really feel for the kid riding it. I imagine the horse is the child’s pride and joy. So chuffed to have a lesson with CD sponsored by someone which turns into this horror show.

Absolutely. I wonder how common this sort of behaviour is.

AvacadoBathroomSuite · 24/07/2024 16:02

The latest update from the lawyer of the whistleblower is that they released the video to ‘save dressage’.

i haven’t heard much else, that was just on the radio.

As I said earlier, I don’t much care why, but maybe this could be the beginning of people pushing back on animal abuse within the industry?

Floppy12 · 24/07/2024 16:03

The 19 yr old whistle-blower did what nobody else would.He/she didn't,t prolong the suffering of these poor horses by not releasing the video earlier.
The people all around Charlotte, her team mates included prolonged the suffering of these horses.They all knew she was using abusive tactics, yet not one of them videoed her.That in itself raises so many questions if they all love horses as much as they claIm.

The GB Dressage Team should be with drawn from the Paris Olympics to allow a full investigation into their practices.

AvacadoBathroomSuite · 24/07/2024 16:05

Floppy12 · 24/07/2024 16:03

The 19 yr old whistle-blower did what nobody else would.He/she didn't,t prolong the suffering of these poor horses by not releasing the video earlier.
The people all around Charlotte, her team mates included prolonged the suffering of these horses.They all knew she was using abusive tactics, yet not one of them videoed her.That in itself raises so many questions if they all love horses as much as they claIm.

The GB Dressage Team should be with drawn from the Paris Olympics to allow a full investigation into their practices.

This is so true. It’s always whistleblowers who suffer the consequences. I know you said @Freakwave897 that no one here is defending her actions, but on news pieces and interviews today it feels as though the interviews have been in three parts; the abuse, the future of the sport and the whistleblower, when the focus should be the abuse, why abuse is continuing and how they stop abuse. That’s what is. Othering me, it’s like it’s part of the issue when I think most of us here recognise it’s the whole issue.

ToxicChristmas · 24/07/2024 16:06

GradGirl · 24/07/2024 15:58

I approve of the timing actually, maximum exposure. If anything opens the way to proper action in this country it will be this.

I agree.
It's one person's fault that we are down one Olympian. Well, maybe one person and a board that turns a blind eye to this "training" until someone provides undeniable proof they can't brush off.
She CHOSE to behave that way, and we all know it's not a one off and it wasn't an "error of judgement". Hopefully, this timing will bring maximum attention to an issue that NEEDS maximum attention.

HollyBollyBooBoo · 24/07/2024 16:09

Fucking bitch. Hope she loses everything and rots in hell.

AndForAFortnightThereWeWereForever · 24/07/2024 16:09

Freakwave897 · 23/07/2024 16:21

Or is it fake news?

It’s so disappointing if true…

I am a huge fan and can’t quite believe what I am hearing.

Funny! I have never heard animal cruelty called 'an error of judgement before!' Hmmmm. Hmm

What a load of old tripe. She is an animal abuser. End of. Her career will be ruined now, and her reputation destroyed.

I saw her interviewed on the TV a few days ago, and she seemed really nice.

Isn't that odd? Confused Covered the real 'her' up quite well.

Also, the animal abuser apologists need to have a long hard look in the mirror. Give your head a wobble! Hmm How DARE you excuse this behaviour from this woman?! Sad thing is that I believe it goes on a lot more than people think.

Bit like Strictly. Who knew what was going on behind the scenes eh?! Truth always comes out!

millie101 · 24/07/2024 16:14

AvacadoBathroomSuite · 24/07/2024 16:02

The latest update from the lawyer of the whistleblower is that they released the video to ‘save dressage’.

i haven’t heard much else, that was just on the radio.

As I said earlier, I don’t much care why, but maybe this could be the beginning of people pushing back on animal abuse within the industry?

Here’s the latest update on that:
www.bbc.com/sport/equestrian/articles/cw0y240r78qo.amp

Freakwave897 · 24/07/2024 16:14

I must admit, as a rider, watching it again, I can’t work out quite what she is trying to achieve by whipping that poor horse.

I don’t do high level dressage but I was taught to build impulsion through the use of my body, without touching the horse. And if a horse is “nappy”, encouraging a horse forward prevents it from bucking. But CD seems to be causing bucking and kicking out. It’s bizarre.

Can any competitive dressage riders shed any light please?

It is said that “how you ride is who you are” and sadly that is all too true and says a lot about CD.

As a former fan, I am not only really angry about the cruelty, which is bad enough in itself, but I am also upset about the deception that she has perpetuated. When I think about the hundreds of articles about her in equestrian magazines, many read by children, with her held up to be an example of “best practice” it really makes my blood boil.

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Freakwave897 · 24/07/2024 16:19

AndForAFortnightThereWeWereForever · 24/07/2024 16:09

Funny! I have never heard animal cruelty called 'an error of judgement before!' Hmmmm. Hmm

What a load of old tripe. She is an animal abuser. End of. Her career will be ruined now, and her reputation destroyed.

I saw her interviewed on the TV a few days ago, and she seemed really nice.

Isn't that odd? Confused Covered the real 'her' up quite well.

Also, the animal abuser apologists need to have a long hard look in the mirror. Give your head a wobble! Hmm How DARE you excuse this behaviour from this woman?! Sad thing is that I believe it goes on a lot more than people think.

Bit like Strictly. Who knew what was going on behind the scenes eh?! Truth always comes out!

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I hope you are not saying anyone is defending her on here AndForAFortnightThereWeWereForever

Every poster has condemned the abuse.

I wrote the op as the news was breaking yesterday when I genuinely could not believe what I was hearing or reading. The thread has moved on since then and since the video was released this morning. No one is doubting her guilt now that’s for sure. What she has done is indefensible.

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millie101 · 24/07/2024 16:21

I’d like to hear from her business partner and fellow Olympian Carl Hester. His silence today, as someone so close to her training and competition prep, is rather deafening. He has also led the PR drive against abuse in the sport which I hope wasn’t just talk. Now is the time for him to speak up.

GradGirl · 24/07/2024 16:23

It reminds me of what happened to me at a dressage clinic with a very well known rider with my five year old. I’m a fairly straight talker so it happened twice as in once far too firm for my liking and me thinking wtf, quickly followed by another - as hard as a schooling whip could be used. This was late nineties.

My DD says I’d often get cancelled in today’s world 😱, rest assured I didn’t mince my words and this person did not get the chance to do it again. Perhaps it is endemic.

There’s an element of shock when you’re on board and this sort of thing happens.

I can’t imagine what she thought she’d achieve that was positive.

oakleaffy · 24/07/2024 16:31

Freakwave897 · 24/07/2024 16:14

I must admit, as a rider, watching it again, I can’t work out quite what she is trying to achieve by whipping that poor horse.

I don’t do high level dressage but I was taught to build impulsion through the use of my body, without touching the horse. And if a horse is “nappy”, encouraging a horse forward prevents it from bucking. But CD seems to be causing bucking and kicking out. It’s bizarre.

Can any competitive dressage riders shed any light please?

It is said that “how you ride is who you are” and sadly that is all too true and says a lot about CD.

As a former fan, I am not only really angry about the cruelty, which is bad enough in itself, but I am also upset about the deception that she has perpetuated. When I think about the hundreds of articles about her in equestrian magazines, many read by children, with her held up to be an example of “best practice” it really makes my blood boil.

The video is infinitely worse than I possibly imagined.
I was imagining a couple of smacks with a crop behind the girth for “ misbehaving “ at worst- not wholesale lashing of a horses legs and tender belly and probably genital area - very sensitive areas in horses.

It seemed like anger on CDJ’s part, lashing him because she COULD.

Just pointless bullying hardly conducive to making a horse enjoy his work.

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