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I think I'm putting down my difficult horse

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whattodowheretogo · 12/06/2018 12:53

I've posted about my horse on here before but I'd just like some last minute opinions.

I bought him a year ago from a TB breeder and trainer as she felt that she was too old for a horse like him and she couldn't sit his spooks.

No ground manners, didn't know where to put his feet, didn't respond to pressure.

I wanted a project and he was one in every sense of the word. I fell in love with him as soon as I saw him.

When I tried him out he was good, but at the end, he took off with me across the field and didn't stop until he physically couldn't go any further. I wasn't concerned about that, I just figured he was green and overwhelmed and these things would come with time.

When we got him home he needed a chifney to be taken anywhere or he would just set his neck and try to canter off (my ex was looking after him for a lot of the time - he's a racehorse trainer and rehab yard owner so he knows what he's doing!) and even he would struggle with him.

Through the months his ground manners improved but to this day he can suddenly try to drag you somewhere and canter off.

His biggest issues are ridden. I've had many rides on him when he's simply decided to take off and nothing can stop him until he's done himself in. One lesson I had we were cantering for so long with him screeching round the corners and bucking that I was getting lightheaded. My trainer couldn't do anything but stand and watch.

He will do things like take off, then screech to a halt in front of the fence, then shoot off again.

I've taken everything right back to basics, over the winter I worked solely on the ground with him, teaching him the saddle and bridle is a positive thing, we learnt to stand stock still at the mountain block, yield to pressure etc.

But he is so unpredictable - he'll do a nasty spook at "nothing", just completely drop his shoulder.

I've spent months just walking and trotting in the school to make it a nice calm experience for him. I've honestly tried everything.

He's just messed up his only saving grace - to hack he is brilliant and super calm. But this weekend he took one look at something on the floor, bolted for home and ran into the main road. I came off, got concussion and fractured my foot.

I've been riding for 17 years, I'll ride literally anything. I ride friend's difficult horses for them if they've come off and had accidents and have a great time. But there's just something about this horse that I just think.. what is it going to take?

I'm so thankful that this wasn't a worse injury for either me or him.

I'm pretty certain that I'm going to put him down. It's something I've discussed with my vet before after he remarked what a difficult git he was.

I feel like it would be unfair on him to pass him on, I'd worry about how he'd be treated given all his quirks, whether he'd be passed on again etc but also I'd worry that he may seriously injure himself or someone else.

Thoughts/suggestions?

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ReadytoTalk · 12/06/2018 17:29

@peng she has answered and actually it was also in one of her early posts.

It is not aggressive, it is stressed.

How absolutely amazing that you can know that with no experience of horses and having never met this particular one before.

Pengggwn · 12/06/2018 17:29

ReadytoTalk

Well, what is your view, then? Do you think this animal sounds aggressive?

mustbemad17 · 12/06/2018 17:30

Apologies, OP said 'over winter' not 6 months. But she has tried your suggestion with no improvement. And as pp have said, horses still need handling. So not riding & not handling are not an option

qu1rky · 12/06/2018 17:30

PTS.
You really don't need somebody's death or serious injury on your conscience.

I have been there and sadly had to do it. 5 and a half years I gave that horse with masses amount of outside help.
Many years on, I don't regret it, even though it saddens me.

Pengggwn · 12/06/2018 17:31

I am getting off this thread because it infuriating me.

"Basic manners" and a "reset period" for an animal that clearly isn't suitable for riding?

FGS.

mustbemad17 · 12/06/2018 17:31

OP there is a simple solution that has arisen from this thread. Penggwyn will happily take your horse on & deal with any consequences that arise.

elastamum · 12/06/2018 17:32

I would PTS. There are as many serious injuries from horses on the ground as ridden and sadly this one is a danger to you and others

ReadytoTalk · 12/06/2018 17:33

I wouldn't know if its aggressive but it certainly sounds unpredictable and therefore dangerous. Even if it can't be ridden, manners on the ground are imperative. This one's had 6 months to a year of hard work put in on the ground and its still the same. You want it to kill someone before op does something about it? It's already broken bones.

whattodowheretogo · 12/06/2018 17:33

The process is called re-backing Peng.

It is a very common process for young and difficult horses. If you're interested feel free to have a Google.

The basic theory is that if you have a traumatised or difficult horse, giving them some time off to "reset", and then re-backing them very slowly, making the whole thing a positive experience can help a lot of horses.

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Thunderpunt · 12/06/2018 17:34

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showerfire · 12/06/2018 17:34

Horsey background here.

PTS would absolutely be my decision.

Pengggwn · 12/06/2018 17:35

whattodowheretogo

Sorry, I'm back. The name of the "process" is irrelevant. Why haven't you tried keeping this animal and not riding him? Is it because you want to ride, or is it because you think he needs to be ridden?

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Thunderpunt · 12/06/2018 17:36

@Pengggwn SHE HAS TRIED NOT RIDING HIM FGS

Pengggwn · 12/06/2018 17:37

Thunderpunt

Do you know what, I don't care. I have asked a very simple question. Horse lingo aside, why won't the OP try not riding the animal, before killing him? Not pausing and then seeing whether he will "yield to pressure", but actually not riding him? It isn't a difficult question.

51howdidthathappen · 12/06/2018 17:37

If a horse is dangerous in hand, I think pts is a viable option.
A horse can't just be turned out, it will always need handling.
I had a horse, that tanked in hand, a huge bloody horse, that would take out anyone in his path.
He was eventually ok, in a monty Roberts head collar, but he understood, pressure and release, tanking off, in his case, was something, he had learnt worked.
A completely untrainable horse, is a liability.
Good luck op.

mustbemad17 · 12/06/2018 17:37

Peng when can you pick the horse up? Seeing as you know best

showerfire · 12/06/2018 17:38

thunder Grin

yawning801 · 12/06/2018 17:39

Oh FGS Peng. She has tried that!!!! What part of "rebacking" and "rest" do you not get? Are you really still blathering on about something you know nothing about? That's twice now you've said that you're leaving the thread, and here you are.

ReadytoTalk · 12/06/2018 17:39

@Pengggwn

Are you trolling? The horse is dangerous to handle. Is that really so hard to understand?

Pengggwn · 12/06/2018 17:40

mustbemad17

I know I don't know a lot about the subject. That doesn't make my question unreasonable.

Anyway, for the third and final time, I am out.

This forum appears to be one for people who think a horse needs to learn to be ridden or needs to be PTS. I think that's wrong, but obviously I am outvoted by the lovely people of the Tack Room.

yawning801 · 12/06/2018 17:40

Ready I just did an advanced search, and there seems to be a lot of user-requested post removals that she has posted. So no, I don't think Peng is a troll. Sadly.

yawning801 · 12/06/2018 17:43

Ever heard of a companion pony, Peng? They exist, but unfortunately OP's horse is not destined to be one. So off you trot, safe in the knowledge that the entire horse world revolves around sentimentality.

yawning801 · 12/06/2018 17:44

So now that's over with...

OP, you know your horse better than any of us at the end of the day, and so you have to do what you feel is best for him.

Eve · 12/06/2018 17:44

Drop him of with peng? Sounds like she would love to have him and has all the answers to his problems.

I completely agree Pts. It’s be far the most responsible decision, if hes difficult to handle could end up injuriing a staff member on the livery yard - a groom near here was seriously brain damaged by a horse that spooked being led from its field.

An autotopsy would be very interesting.

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