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The Forty Second Republic - Lockdown 3 online learning struggles continue

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SantaAssociationRepresentitve · 14/01/2021 21:13

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff only – a sort of room of requirement. Baiters, haters, goaders, and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Do not give the staffroom password just in case it attracts the wrong sort

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the booze is stashed - Thirsty Tuesdays, Fizz Fridays now in operation.

If you come with a stick to goad us then that is not allowed in the staffroom and you will receive a detention

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noblegiraffe · 19/01/2021 18:25

@Piggywaspushed

Looks like data came form DfE noble
But it's the data I'm looking at and I still can't figure out their graph.

The data released is 'number of teachers and school leaders absent with a confirmed case of covid_19' on any particular day. Not when they got covid.

RigaBalsam · 19/01/2021 18:26

From NEU

The Forty Second Republic - Lockdown 3 online learning struggles continue
noblegiraffe · 19/01/2021 18:28

And this is the bit I'm struggling with!

I hate stats. Not my area. Herc any idea what they've done?

The Forty Second Republic - Lockdown 3 online learning struggles continue
EnemyOfEducationNo1 · 19/01/2021 18:30

Have they just proportioned it by numbers of each category of teacher??

Appuskidu · 19/01/2021 18:30

@noblegiraffe

And this is the bit I'm struggling with!

I hate stats. Not my area. Herc any idea what they've done?

Do you think they’ve made estimates that could be disputed?
EnemyOfEducationNo1 · 19/01/2021 18:31

I couldn't figure it out either

Evvyjb · 19/01/2021 18:38

@HercwasanEnemyofEducation

Sadly - English! The best subject for doing manageable short form assessment...

I'm HOD as well, so whatever I decide we're all going with...

noblegiraffe · 19/01/2021 18:39

So on 2nd November the data says that 0.8% of secondary teachers and school leaders were off with covid.

But their graph has 400/100,000. And the per 100,000 national figure is usually a 7 day case rate.

So have they worked out how many cases there were in a 7 day period?

Appuskidu · 19/01/2021 18:40

[quote Mcvitoes]Is it still possible they'll totally scrap the idea of close contacts not isolating on the strength of LFTs?

www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/19/ministers-set-to-halt-plans-for-daily-covid-tests-in-english-schools[/quote]
I hope so. They need to disband it completely though, not scrap it. Or maybe trial using them to replace self isolation for MPs then send Matt Wancock back to work.

This quote in the article...

But he said there was a “strong feeling” that Covid cases were resulting in too many children being off school

FFS make schools safer then!

HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 19/01/2021 18:47

I have no idea what they've done. The graph doesn't seem to match the data table. It's like a bad gcse Q!

@Evvyjb I'd do whatever is easiest for you! It it important to be timed? Feedback is easier done as an assignment.

I'd set up a MS form with the assessment on and get them to write on that.

MrsHamlet · 19/01/2021 18:48

@Evvyjb can you do part of one Lang paper? Or does it have to be a whole one?

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 19/01/2021 18:56

Or reduce the amount of Covid circulating in the community. If covid cases are resulting in too many children being off school, then have less covid FFS.

Don’t leave it until you have 30,000 cases a day to have a circuit breaker when you were advised we needed one at 6000 cases a day.

Appuskidu · 19/01/2021 19:00

@RafaIsTheKingOfClay

Or reduce the amount of Covid circulating in the community. If covid cases are resulting in too many children being off school, then have less covid FFS.

Don’t leave it until you have 30,000 cases a day to have a circuit breaker when you were advised we needed one at 6000 cases a day.

Well, quite!
noblegiraffe · 19/01/2021 19:02

Glad I'm not the only one that can't figure out the graph. I've just seen a couple of people on twitter going 'eh?' as well.

I'd like them to show their working!

EnemyOfEducationNo1 · 19/01/2021 19:04

@Evvyjb just a thought but could you get them type answers into on online whiteboard thing like spiral.ac or whiteboard.fe so you can watch them typing and so know they are not copy/pasting. Then they can save and submit into teams?

noblegiraffe · 19/01/2021 19:06

Ask them to sign confirming its their own work in total test conditions and if there's any hint of cheating they're in BIG TROUBLE?

Piggywaspushed · 19/01/2021 19:15

I use Google Classroom but think it works the same. I did Eng essays today and some for A level. Provide them with the document to type on ? I could then watch them doing it as they typed (basically dropping in one each of them ). Would that work in teams?

I have to do NEA for film and that is how I will have to supervise the part that normally has to be done under controlled conditions.

Ulelia · 19/01/2021 19:15

From the NEU. Is day not strongly worded enough if their graphs are based on valid data (which I agree I'm not sure they are).

The Forty Second Republic - Lockdown 3 online learning struggles continue
The Forty Second Republic - Lockdown 3 online learning struggles continue
borntobequiet · 19/01/2021 19:17

I think that data has spooked them big time in the DfE and Health but no one thought to see that Harries got the memo so she’s still spouting the nonsense and lies she’s now internalised.

JanuaryChill · 19/01/2021 19:17

Let's hope the NEU's work isn't open to accusations of bias...

Anyone any idea why the secondary non-teaching staff's rate is no worse than general pop's? OK more shut away in offices than in primary, but still many student-facing and, on and off, teacher-facing??

MrsHamlet · 19/01/2021 19:19

piggy one of my colleagues is using Bruff to remote teach. It makes me sad.

Ulelia · 19/01/2021 19:20

@Piggywaspushed

I use Google Classroom but think it works the same. I did Eng essays today and some for A level. Provide them with the document to type on ? I could then watch them doing it as they typed (basically dropping in one each of them ). Would that work in teams?

I have to do NEA for film and that is how I will have to supervise the part that normally has to be done under controlled conditions.

We did mocks like this, with cameras on where possible, and a strict time limit on when work had to be submitted. We still had about 15% trying to cheat, but it was really obvious for all of them. Either they spent too long trying to find a markscheme and so produced perfect answers but only for the first half of a paper, or used their notes nd research which meant whole sentences or paragraphs were regurgitated from easy to find sources. Why can't kids cheat properly? This was across the whole of y11 to 13 of a small school (60 in a year group). Its not perfect, but my school felt it was better than nothing given we've been online for ages and probably won't be back in by Easter.
Piggywaspushed · 19/01/2021 19:21

I can't bear him. As you can probably tell.

He got found out in his Poppies video . A few of my girls who do textiles just ended up laughing at his misunderstandings of the yellow brocade.

MrsHamlet · 19/01/2021 19:22

Oh god. I can't watch him... but I observed a lesson where the kids were told lots about the "biased binding"

Piggywaspushed · 19/01/2021 19:23
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