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The Sixteenth Republic - waiting on the GCSE results show!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 16/08/2020 11:10

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Cracklefraggle · 17/08/2020 14:52

New quandary. Our CAGs, both GCSE and A level, were heavily moderated by SLT before submission. One of my A level students had CAGs lowered by SLT but upgraded by the algorithm back to what they should have been - ranked #1. If we revert back to CAGs do you think they will go back down?
Obviously in favour of CAGs being used over the algorithm just frustrated at further impacts on students because this shit wasn't sorted out properly first time round. Fuming with SLT too but that's another story for another day.

cantkeepawayforever · 17/08/2020 14:57

Wales has said any student with results higher than CAG will keep them.

cantkeepawayforever · 17/08/2020 14:58

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53807854 Here

Summerdays2014 · 17/08/2020 15:08

Does anyone teach Btec? We have done Btec tech performing arts for the first year (going back to gcse as we hate the btec!) wonder what will happen with the grades for that? We were asked to submit the grades they got for the 2 internal units and then Pearson’s are just going to ‘guess’ what they get for the final unit. We weren’t asked to input our final calculated grade...

Cracklefraggle · 17/08/2020 15:10

@cantkeepawayforever

Wales has said any student with results higher than CAG will keep them.
In England so just wondering whether it will be the same if we go with CAGs too. How is Gav still in a job btw?
Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 15:16

I have just had a look at what would be the consequences if NEAs could be submitted as a grade! That would massively inflate results : hence them saying they would have to accept the CAG if it was lower. I guess someone realised NEAs would produce results which were way too high.

Iamnotthe1 · 17/08/2020 15:20

@Cracklefraggle
How is Gav still in a job btw?

I've lost count of the number of issues that he's presided over. One of three things must be true:

  1. they are keeping him to sack at the right point,
  2. the man is actually made a teflon, or
  3. he has a secret stash with some very dodgy photos of Boris Johnson.
Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 15:24

He'll be sacked. I half think they will do that instead of offering CAGs to students.

WhenSheWasBad · 17/08/2020 15:25

1) they are keeping him to sack at the right point

I think it’s this one. They know there is much more education related shit to hit the fan. Might as well let Gav take the fall for that. Let the new education sec start fresh (ish).

WhenSheWasBad · 17/08/2020 15:26

Education Sec ??

I meant minister.

ineedaholidaynow · 17/08/2020 15:26

Can you imagine anyone wanting to take on the role at the moment?

noblegiraffe · 17/08/2020 15:29

How is Gav still in a job btw?

Boris is on holiday. Hmm

Iamnotthe1 · 17/08/2020 15:33

@Piggywaspushed

He'll be sacked. I half think they will do that instead of offering CAGs to students.
But if they don't offer CAGs then that would mean that Gav was right all along. That'd make it harder to sack him and would look extremely odd if they did.
ineedaholidaynow · 17/08/2020 15:33

Has anyone seen anything from the new campaign to reassure parents yet?

Hercwasonaroll · 17/08/2020 15:35

Awarding CAGs is unfair in a different way.

Look at appeals fairly but I disagree with blanket awarding of CAGs.

Iamnotthe1 · 17/08/2020 15:36

@noblegiraffe

How is Gav still in a job btw?

Boris is on holiday. Hmm

I thought that but then I read something that said he hadn't actually gone yet: he was just staying out of public view at the moment.
HarveySchlumpfenburger · 17/08/2020 15:39

@ineedaholidaynow

Can you imagine anyone wanting to take on the role at the moment?
Grayling. Isn’t he out of a job since he lost out on the intelligence one to Julian Lewis?

He’s quite possibly now the only person who could now make this worse.

noblegiraffe · 17/08/2020 15:42

“The UK government is due to make an announcement on A-level and GCSE results today, as Downing Street said Boris Johnson has "confidence" in his education secretary and the English exams regulator.

Number 10 said the prime minister spoke to Gavin Williamson and other officials on the phone from his holiday in Scotland on Monday morning about the issue.”

news.sky.com/story/a-level-and-gcse-exams-row-government-announcement-expected-later-today-12051028

“Confidence” = imminent boot.

noblegiraffe · 17/08/2020 15:44

Nononononono not Grayling!

It’ll be a nobody from the backbenches, most likely a woman.

Cracklefraggle · 17/08/2020 15:45

@ineedaholidaynow

Has anyone seen anything from the new campaign to reassure parents yet?
This one?
The Sixteenth Republic - waiting on the GCSE results show!
Iamnotthe1 · 17/08/2020 15:53

To be honest, it's not enough for just Gav to go. It's about time Nick Gibb went too.

MrsHerculePoirot · 17/08/2020 15:54

@Danglingmod

I was just pondering whether this would have been a fairer system: each centre told up front that they couldn't give grades which would result in them having a higher overall result of more than, say, 3%? on their 3 year average and that if they wanted to challenge this ceiling they could have done, right at the beginning, within a period of, say, a fortnight (higher PA of cohort or other change in intake etc). Then centres all allocate grades according to their own agreed ceiling of improvement. Fairer???
Yes I think so. I don’t understand why they have to veer between the two extremes. We know there will be centres where grades have been purposefully inflated so why didn’t they look at each centre separately and speak to those that were over or higher by a certain amount.... find out why or whatever. I literally have no idea what anyone is going to say next, but CAGs being awarded would be the least amount of work presumably so high chance as no-one is going to want to spend any money in education...
Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 15:55

God , there are a couple of awful new Tory MPs from the Red Wall who used to be teachers.

Flagsfiend · 17/08/2020 15:56

@Hercwasonaroll

Awarding CAGs is unfair in a different way.

Look at appeals fairly but I disagree with blanket awarding of CAGs.

Can I ask why?

I agree CAG awarding wasn't the best plan, but in the absence of a time machine I can't see a better option at the moment (I can think of lots of better system but they involve it being June or July). I think appeals would cause massive disruption to schools in September and unneeded extra work for teachers and stress for students.

Piggywaspushed · 17/08/2020 15:57

Raab could also be Dominic RA A U

If he did Ancient Greek, music and history.

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