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The fourteenth republic - watching Scotland and ever changing DfE guidelines

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 02/08/2020 15:50

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to beat us with then please do so elsewhere and not in the staffroom

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eitak22 · 10/08/2020 09:03

Good Luck to all my Scottish colleagues today! Been thinking of you past few weeks.

Anyone just seen the thread about schools transmitting? From a teacher and everyone is questioning it and arguing she could have picked it up anywhere and it's not school. Seriously why are people so blind?!

Also, regarding mental health itll be down to teachers along with catching them up and all the other things we need to watch put for. As an LSA, I know I'll be doing lots of emotional support if needed however when our children came back for last 2 days they didn't want to talk about lockdown, they just wanted school to be normal and talk to their friends.

MrsHamlet · 10/08/2020 09:05

Is it acceptable to tell my stepmother that she's a poisonous bitch the next time she trots out some Daily Mail fuelled tripe which paints teachers as the root of all social ills? I have started referring to myself as a work-shy leftie, which I know annoys her, but I am sick to death of being told that I've been on holiday since March. Rage!

plasticboxesrock · 10/08/2020 09:13

Sending best wishes to all my Scottish colleagues today.

Despairing at the BBC and the way they report things, and show schools with half classes, or children sitting at socially-distanced lunch. Also despairing at my DM-reading parents who tell me to "buck up" and say how pleased they are that I'm not in a union.......

DH (shielder) incandescent about school return and it's causing major rucks about me going back and DD too....

Appuskidu · 10/08/2020 09:14

I wonder if teens over will be banned from sharing pictures of crowded corridors and classrooms on social media like they seemed to be in that school in Georgia.

I would imagine many of them won’t be impressed or feel safe and want to share the reality of schools rather then the BBC stock photos of 8 smiling SD children to a class.

Is that something that secondary heads would police?

Danglingmod · 10/08/2020 09:49

Yes, along with the so-called "stock" photos of empty classrooms, 2m stickers everywhere and obedient little primary kids (did the BBC lose their entire normal library of school images in a fire or something??), I'm enraged by the Headteachers who keep being asked by journalists "Do you feel confident you can keep the children socially distanced?" and they wang on about staggered starts and breaks and they NEVER say "No, we can't and we're not actually being asked to. It's class sizes and corridors as normal."

Piggywaspushed · 10/08/2020 09:56

I feel your pain mrs : my DH (also a teacher!) has been telling me I am 'stealing a living' since late March. LOL Bantz. Angry

FrippEnos · 10/08/2020 09:57

Appuskidu

the irony of that picture is at least the girl that took it wasn't in school for the resulting outbreak.

monkeytennis97 · 10/08/2020 09:57

@plasticboxesrock My DP are the same.."We've got to get back to normal" ,"Kids don't pass it on, don't be ridiculous", "It's going now anyway.. burnt itself out". They read the Times and tell me it's a neutral paperGrin

FrippEnos · 10/08/2020 09:58

Appuskidu

At the moment the plan where I work is not to use the corridors for change over.

Piggywaspushed · 10/08/2020 09:59

Sorry, neuro of course it's not released because it's not finished. What are the going to do if the bit of the study done in the autumn term changes everything!?

I can't stand that Viner.

MrsHamlet · 10/08/2020 10:00

There is hazard tape around my desk at school. Apparently this is to make me feel safe. I despair.

SaltyAndFresh · 10/08/2020 10:00

@NeurotrashWarrior

There's just been a professor on R4 stating that schools have very little transmission and the biggest risk is staff bringing it in.

For me that's the issue though; it's the level of local infection that could affect the schools ability to keep going. And he skirted around the teen query completely, citing mental health and weighing up risks etc. Hmm

Christ the spin at the moment.

Do you think teachers will be expected to martyr themselves by living apart from their families and only setting foot outside to go to work? I don't see footballers throwong their hotels open for us. I've made a point of enjoying the freedom of this summer and am intent on the beach or bike rides every weekend in term time, until the next lockdown.
Appuskidu · 10/08/2020 10:01

@FrippEnos

Appuskidu

At the moment the plan where I work is not to use the corridors for change over.

Are they going for apparition or the floo network instead? Grin

In all seriousness, how will that work? Do your classes have external doors?

MrsHamlet · 10/08/2020 10:01

@FrippEnos am I being spectacularly dense here? If you're not using the corridors, how are you getting about?

FrippEnos · 10/08/2020 10:13

Appuskidu and MrsHamlet

Lining up out side in designated areas in classes.
Dropped off and collected by teachers at the start and end of lessons.
Walking around the outside of the school and using fire exits and only using corridors when absolutely necessary.
Plus a one-way system.

Piggywaspushed · 10/08/2020 10:16

The thing is, there is no point trying to re-educate MN . Anyone can start a thread and (sod it, I'll name them ) Marshabradyo, morelistneinglesschatting,lauriemarlow and a few others will turn up unpicking the OP, talking about them in the third person,adopting an informed tone and UsForThem spaffing everywhere.

The gov's whole policy at the moment is about reassuring parents , not teachers.

And (sorry primary colleagues) I am fED UP of all the emphasis being on 'cute' little kids who make for better copy, better pictures and more convenient evidence. It was the same at the beginning, too, which got year 10 and 12 parents righty very riled.

I am not going to post in the transmission thread in the hope it will die. The OP got some things wrong and that hasn't helped.

I am back to ignoring!

Appuskidu · 10/08/2020 10:18

Ahhh, that makes sense. Maybe still consider apparition for KS4 though Grin.

It’s staggering that on my BBC app, there is one headline saying schools in England are safe and the one underneath says that France are bringing in masks for some outside attraction spaces!

What must we look like to the rest of the world?

ChloeDecker · 10/08/2020 10:26

@MrsHamlet

There is hazard tape around my desk at school. Apparently this is to make me feel safe. I despair.
Similar here! Only no longer ‘our’ desks but a hot desking of sorts as we go to the pupils and they stay where they are and we go straight to our little taped box and stay there. Not exactly sure that the mental health of young people will be magically solved by sitting at the same desk all day everyday etc. but it helps the mental health of their parents, eh!? Wink
MrsHamlet · 10/08/2020 10:36

To be accurate, I suppose it's the desk formerly belonging to MrsHamlet. Year 10 thought it highly amusing that to write on the board I would have to come out of my box, and were moved to wonder about the magic virus repelling properties of tape. Autistic Dennis was furious about it because "that's ridiculous, Miss". We agreed on that at least, even if we'll never agree that the curtains are blue because they show the misery and sadness of the room (they are blue because they were picked to match the desks, actually. Not by me. And the blue desks are long gone)

TheHoneyBadger · 10/08/2020 10:36

Thinking of it children don’t vote and most teachers are assumed to vote left. Conservatives could pick up a lot of swing voters by posturing as the ones who saved hard working parents from the big bad teachers and unions.

Even from low earning households stuck on zero hours contracts.

FrippEnos · 10/08/2020 10:51

Piggywaspushed

I had the ultimate teacher put down yesterday, as a gob shite parent was very happy that I didn't teach her children.

I can honestly say, not as I happy as I am to not have to teach a child with a parent like her.

plasticboxesrock · 10/08/2020 11:03

I've just read the "I'm a teacher and I'm scared" thread. Wow. I feel like a need a shower after some of that.

@ Appuskidu LOL at the Floo network for lesson changeover. If only! I think "accio hand gel" would be handy too....

Piggywaspushed · 10/08/2020 11:10

Can't help but be wrily amused by the fact that the minister wheeled out to say schools are absolutely safe this morning was the Care Minister. Because we all trust her.

Danglingmod · 10/08/2020 11:11

Well with all the lies currently being spouted by the (mouthpiece for the govt) press, I wonder just what could possibly be in tomorrow's guidelines. Obviously not be going to be any further safety measures. Unless it's "school staff to sleep overnight at school so they can babysit children whose parents need to go to work."

Piggywaspushed · 10/08/2020 11:15

dangling there are genuinely posters on here who believe we should go and stay in hotels.