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The fourteenth republic - watching Scotland and ever changing DfE guidelines

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 02/08/2020 15:50

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If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

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hedgehogger1 · 06/08/2020 17:57

This whole attendance thing is worrying. I am one of the very bad parents who will dose (usually DS) up with calpol and neurofen and send him in to school in the hope I get at least part way through a days teaching. I always seem to have sixth form in the morning slots, and bottom set year 9/10 after lunch.

Piggywaspushed · 06/08/2020 18:02

That's my concern. Performance in my school has been met but, nationally, we got the highest results for my GCSE. Not sure what happens. And it might work for DSs school conversely as they are an improving school but music results have been horrific.

Piggywaspushed · 06/08/2020 18:07

She believes she has had it. She also teaches in a private school in London with very small class sizes. She has also been teaching for about two years. All of these things skew her world view.

Hercwasonaroll · 06/08/2020 18:12

Does the first sentence of this agree with the subject by subject approach?

The fourteenth republic - watching Scotland and ever changing DfE guidelines
MrsHerculePoirot · 06/08/2020 18:22

That reads to me that they will do it for every subject for every centre! Hope so and in which case we should be fine... do you think they did really though?!? Was it really feasible? I hope so!

Hercwasonaroll · 06/08/2020 18:30

That's how I read it too Hercule. I wasn't sure if I was seeing what I wanted to see rather than what the guidance said. It seems very unfair to do it any other way and presumably they have all the data required either way. They've had lots of time to do it. The small cohort stuff is positive if you have small classes too.

Hercwasonaroll · 06/08/2020 18:32

I've seen a glimpse of our inset days. Looks like we'll still be subject to the "look how much child development added to progress 8" bullshit we get every year. You'd think they'd bin that considering we graded them ourselves Hmm

Piggywaspushed · 06/08/2020 19:02

I'd like to know whether their 'fire or famine 'clause includes a teacher being arrested and then sacked in the middle of the school year....

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/08/2020 19:10

We have students with things in their EHCP that aren't corona friendly. How are schools getting round that? Eg on student is allowed to leave and walk around the school for a mental break. Another is allowed to move seating plan.

We are and Sen school and Canada have these things on plans. Also sometimes children need to go to a specific sensory room as part of a behaviour plan. I'm not sure what the rules will be there but I expect ours will be going outside rather than walking corridors. They often do, but doing a "job" trotting to someone's office is also a common strategy to calm someone.

When I think of some of the situations we've been in over years, as well as any teacher dealing with an incident if they know the child or are available, I struggle to see how we will functionally work the not crossing bubble thing.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/08/2020 19:25

Poor things might have to use Starbucks

That's precisely why they're all being corralled back; no one is buying coffee from the millions of coffee shops we seem to have every other shop now.

It would make more sense for us if they all bloody stayed at home!

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 06/08/2020 19:46

You must eat out to save the economy and go back to work to save the coffee shops, but if covid makes you really ill beacause you are overweight that’s your own fault because we spent loads on ads telling you to lose weight.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 06/08/2020 19:55

Tbf it’s probably not all about coffee shops. There’s probably a fair few Tory donors/victors that own and let out commercial office space in central London. If companies start realising their employees are just as productive at home and the employees realise they are saving time and money on commuting there’s going to be a property crash as people start downsizing office space.

Keepdistance · 06/08/2020 20:13

Dp work closed the office to them in about apr and rented it out to others soon after not London though. He is on permanent wfh now. He was doing 2d before.
Wfh also allows less kids to need after school clubs which is probably better for kids and covid.
Also there have now been 2 pandemics and also SARS1 big open plan iffices are not a good idea long term with world population.
I see main issue that jobs could be done from anywhere in the world.

I wonder if more would be on board with online lessons if it was with the outstanding schools? As in you dont need to live in the area

plasticboxesrock · 06/08/2020 20:35

Sounds very similar to someone posting as 'The Headmaster's Office' on TES.
He is hilarious! A bit like the government, I think he can't post anything sillier, and then he does!

phlebasconsidered I feel your pain. My 1:1 has "may go out of class for brain break" etc in her EHCP - basically we will be on the playground all day unless it's another bubble's turn in which case I have no idea where I can go. I used to enjoy the brain breaks too, all us 1:1 TAs would, and sometimes we'd swap children if they were being particularly hard work, but we can't do that now. Much, much harder work, with no downtime, and increased behaviour issues having been away from school routine and after summer hols......... We have a sensory room, all sorts of nice things in there, will we be allowed to go in there when it's theoretically for the whole school? Bubbles bursting all over the place.

CallmeAngelina · 06/08/2020 21:00

50 is on form today.
Angry

Piggywaspushed · 06/08/2020 21:02

Oh bless her. She must be bored.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 06/08/2020 21:17

That piece is awesome piggy. Once you know that it is for the Telegraph you can see all the messaging fitting together. NSW study, Israel gets dismissed by saying everything else opened up at the same time so we don’t know it was schools, someone from a global organisation saying school need to go open and stay open whatever the risk, that little kick at the end setting up the fall guys...

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 06/08/2020 21:20

Also - the science of reopening schools safely. An article which contains almost no science except the one study that supports my point even though it has massive widely discussed issues.

Piggywaspushed · 06/08/2020 21:28

Ah, yes, but we also have the flummoxed scientist who cannot understand the resistance to masks! In the Telegraph!!

I did post it especially for you lot though with the NSW study Wink

echt · 06/08/2020 22:05

HoneyBadger your business manager sound horrible.

Having grappled with my UK teacher's pension I found that once outsourced the companies employed to do payroll only kept records for five years. Looking at you Crapita.Hmm In this instance, the business manager at the school was endlessly helpful and emailed me all the records they still had. All records held by local authorities were accurate and permanent.

Possibly because I started teaching pre computers, I kept every contract and every P60 I ever had, and brought them with me to Australia. It feels very old-school but minimised the sleuthing.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 06/08/2020 22:50

@TheHoneyBadger

Dear lord. 50 doesn’t want bubbles to ever burst now. We’re to keep working knowing there have been positive tests until we ourselves test positive. No way is she a teacher
Ha ha - mad as a box of frogs
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FrippEnos · 06/08/2020 23:21

It will be interesting to see if they change to rulings on masks if 50 and her ilk will resign.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 07/08/2020 00:07

Let’s hope!

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Myothercarisalsoshit · 07/08/2020 00:08

@FrippEnos

It will be interesting to see if they change to rulings on masks if 50 and her ilk will resign.
Never! She's all about the children, that one ...