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Whether you're a permanent teacher, supply teacher or student teacher, you'll find others in the same situation on our Staffroom forum.

The Third Republic - solidarity comrades!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 04/05/2020 19:51

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are not staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

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Piggywaspushed · 10/05/2020 11:21

On the subject of transport, more London bus drivers have died (per head) than NHS workers. they have the worst death rate of any occupation. This is terribly terribly sad. So mush for militant unions .

RigaBalsam · 10/05/2020 11:21

It's like that teaching advert that said teachers could earn 60k.Hmm

MossWalk · 10/05/2020 11:23

Would it be the case that, if we didn’t go back until Sept (and people abided to the lockdown..) fewer drastic social distancing measures would be needed?

I feel so sorry for children, but the draconian social distancing we’ve all been talking about would be worse for mental health imo.

TheHoneyBadger · 10/05/2020 11:24

Appuskidu

Does anything else hope that the whole attendance fines/awards/‘send your child in no matter what’ may fade away after all this?!

Yes. I’m hoping it will remind people that these are their children who they must take decisions for and you can’t assume schools are going to teach or take care of every single thing they need. There’s such a sense of entitlement yet no will to demand better funding and conditions for schools.

Piggywaspushed · 10/05/2020 11:24

Well, my child's mental health is immeasurably better by not having to sit 29 exams or whatever in May and June. Ya boo sucks.

NeurotrashWarrior · 10/05/2020 11:25

Heads up re this sobering thread:

More emerging about Covid and Kawasaki in Children www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3904417-More-emerging-about-Covid-and-Kawasaki-in-Children

RigaBalsam · 10/05/2020 11:26

I saw that neuro they are all down playing it. Sad

FrippEnos · 10/05/2020 11:26

this interesting

www.tes.com/news/my-first-day-back-returning-school-china?fbclid=IwAR2aLoFhFmQKaMoL3AtZME4CawAQFhMP8RLPz2VEVUDSapQXT3u_Iqr1iAk

the video link in the comments is also shows a very different approach.

Appuskidu · 10/05/2020 11:26

Ahh yes! I think it was the ‘great’ teachers that could earn (up to) £65k.

You know, the ones who teach in London, on the leadership scale who are on the very top point. About 0.00000001% of teachers, I think.

I complained. They couldn’t give a fuck Angry

TheHoneyBadger · 10/05/2020 11:27

Thanks moss. I will tune in live for once.

Just did a beautiful ting yoga class so pretty chill for now. Will avoid news till 7

TheHoneyBadger · 10/05/2020 11:29

I would earn £37k but I have been broken to the point of not being able to cope with more than 0.5fte.

Appuskidu · 10/05/2020 11:30

I would earn £37k but I have been broken to the point of not being able to cope with more than 0.5fte.

Snap.

Pisses me off when people talk about our ‘gold plated‘ pensions. They aren’t very gold-plated when you are so broken, you can only work part time.

RigaBalsam · 10/05/2020 11:31

I quit and was a TA for 10 years so am only an M4.

MossWalk · 10/05/2020 11:31

That is dreadful re bus drivers. Really awful.

The article about Shanghai was very interesting.

  • L shape table arrangement (wonder why?)
  • set meal lunch, own cutlery
  • thermal temperature checker thing
NeurotrashWarrior · 10/05/2020 11:31

I've been seeing a dark irony in celebrating VE Day where children's education and lives had been severely disrupted for 6 years and handwringing over children being damaged by lack of education and inability to socialise (this is what SM was made for ffs.)

(incidentally, we didn't 'celebrate,' part exhaustion, part something didn't quite sit right with us about it. And so many people I know were working hard on the front line that day.)

I do have huge concerns about some pupils and families of course. Families I know through teaching and indeed personally, locally. It's not the schools' fault though.

MossWalk · 10/05/2020 11:33

I am top of the scale and fully reliant on my HT. If ours left I’d be managed out.

#careerstability Hmm

pfrench · 10/05/2020 11:35

We aren’t going to get much in 10 minutes

Well, the thingy where they closed schools and basically turned the whole country upside down, was 9 minutes long. Everything changed in those 9 minutes.

We did a staff zoom quiz last night. My head was drunk, but said "schools are just going to be childcare, prepare yourself for that..." then her husband said YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!! in a jokey tone. To which she did a serious face and said, "I don't know that. Oh no... don't all go away and panic, I don't know anything... "

Haha. Everyone's going nuuuuuts.

Meanwhile I'm having a nice rest on this Sunday and recording my week's worth of class book reading videos, uploading the rest of my recorded maths lessons and history for Tuesday and Wednesday. I did Monday's on my restful Thursday evening, and English last night -ie, Saturday night.

Ooh, it's SO RESTFUL.

phlebasconsidered · 10/05/2020 11:38

Me too Honey - I was leadership scale in Secondary then scaled back to part time and M6 with no leadership in primary because i'd just had enough. Every so often they ask me if i want to go over the threshold again and my answer is always no. I also stubbirnly insist on maintaining 85% instead of ft because it keeps me sane.

I think my days are numbered though - they can get cheap newbies in ft who will throw themselves under a bus for slt and the chance of promotion. The minute there's even a whisper of capability I shall fly off. I'm pretty protected right now though as no bugger wants year 6 and my results are always good ( not nationally - just in terms of progress from our very low start point!)

NeurotrashWarrior · 10/05/2020 11:39

Ah sorry french, hope you get done quickly so you can have some sort of rest.

For anyone who thinks carefully enough it's pretty obvious school is only going to be child care for the foreseeable.

TheHoneyBadger · 10/05/2020 11:40

Pisses me off when people talk about our ‘gold plated‘ pensions. They aren’t very gold-plated when you are so broken, you can only work part time.

Yep plus career breaks for nervous breakdowns and the question of what percentage of teachers will manage to work to 67!? Even the generation above me have mostly had to take early retirement preceded by several years part time and their retirement age was lower.

Piggywaspushed · 10/05/2020 11:41

That Shanghai article also says 37.3 for a temperature. Which seems low.

Appuskidu · 10/05/2020 11:42

We did a staff zoom quiz last night. My head was drunk, but said "schools are just going to be childcare, prepare yourself for that..." then her husband said YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!! in a jokey tone. To which she did a serious face and said, "I don't know that. Oh no... don't all go away and panic, I don't know anything... "

That made me chuckleGrin

TheHoneyBadger · 10/05/2020 11:42

Phleb so actual good results then. Or has value added gone out of fashion? I find it hard to keep up

Piggywaspushed · 10/05/2020 11:42

Students line up outside the canteen, ready to go through another thermal detection unit. Nurses are on hand, just in case someone has a temperature.
Students sanitise their hands on entry and move in procession along a track marked on the floor at one-metre intervals. They receive their tray – there are no options for lunch, just a single set menu – and walk to their designated seats.
All students sit facing the same direction, one seat apart. It feels like something out of a sci-fi film.

This sounds so unBritish! Nurses on hand!!?!

pfrench · 10/05/2020 11:43

Oh, and just discovered that White Rose have this week stopped providing the resource work sheets unless the school has a subscription, which mine doesn't. I could pay £40 for access for my two year groups, but instead I'm going to spend my afternoon making 10 worksheets to go with each lesson. ACE. RESTFUL.

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