2.75% pay rise for teachers....

[noblegiraffe]

...out of existing budgets.

Eh? A lot of schools couldn’t afford to give the 1% they were supposed to fund this year so how will this happen?

Not that I think it will apply to me as a UPS teacher anyway.

I think this is an across the board pay rise. Last year they did the odd staggered thing but they can’t keep doing that or the top of MPS will overtake the bottom of UPS. The difference between M6 and U1 isn’t huge.

I assume it will apply to the Leadership scale too. I’m moving onto the L scale next year. Again, if they keep staggering the pay increases then it won’t take long before people on UPS with TLRs start to overtake those on the lower rungs of the L scale. I was on UPS 2 with a TLR this year and my AHT pay isn’t that much more than I would have been on next year with my TLR and UPS 3. A couple of years of 2.75% rises to UPS but no increase for Leadership would wipe out the difference.

Pressed post too soon.
Not fully funding it will be a disaster. School budgets are unbelievably tight and the lack of investment is really starting to bite now. Old tech equipment is starting to fail or become less reliable and there’s no money to replace that sort of thing. Our IWBs and projectors are on their last legs in many classroom, furniture is wearing out, the buildings need decorating and there’s been steadily less and less money for that sort of stuff since 2010. Our servers and IT infrastructure are old and at risk of breaking down. There’s nowhere left to cut and increasingly urgent need to invest money in facilities and infrastructure.

As a TA I worry this will be more likely to come out as redundancies than a payrise for us. Money has to come from somewhere so much as I'd love to be pleased I'm not.

It's bonkers that something so good can be such bad news.

It’s good news, we haven’t had a pay ride in years.

Rise

I read that as 27% and was thinking of moving to England.

As a TA I worry this will be more likely to come out as redundancies than a payrise for us. Money has to come from somewhere so much as I'd love to be pleased I'm not.

I think that's the likely outcome in a lot of the schools I work in. The money just isn't there to provide the basics each year let alone pay rises.

My immediate thought when I heard this was "how are they going to pay for this?" If it's not fully funded by the government (which it doesn't seem to be) then it's good news for me personally (because my job is pretty safe, even though I'm expensive) but bad news for at least some of my colleagues (because they'll be made redundant). We're a middle ish size secondary, and we've already had 11 redundancies in the past 3 years (we started with 95 teaching staff, now down to 84). Some of that has been falling rolls as we've had a couple of years with low birthrate in our catchment, but it's mostly the changes in funding.

It’s not funded which means something will have to go to pay for it. Most likely there will be redundancies in very short order. More schools will cut the school day/close early to students on Fridays. Break times may be shortened to achieve earlier finish times.

Equipment budgets will shrink further, with patents being requested to ‘donate’ more and more for specific items (toilet roll anyone?).

Without this being funded, it is not good news. It’s just an attempt to bribe the voters before the next general election.

Anyone with more than a couple of years experience will be very insecure in their jobs and our kids will be taught by nqts led by rqts - it’s a complete joke

If schools can’t pay it, they just won’t pay it rather than making people redundant I reckon. There are loads of teachers who haven’t had the previous pay rises.

I think it will give them the excuse to get rid of experienced teachers, I’m not convinced they’ll pay more to anyone. I also think it’s a good Tory ploy to alienate teachers ‘why are they moaning again about budget cuts, they’ve had a payrise’ - it all stinks

Can schools just choose not to pay it? I assumed it would be compulsory, even if only for maintained schools.

1 in 5 teachers didn’t get last year’s cost of living pay rise www.tes.com/news/one-five-teachers-denied-national-pay-rise

It’s good news, we haven’t had a pay ride in years.

It isn’t good news as it simply wont happen. We didn’t get the last one.

TM will fuck off skipping happily saying she’s really made a difference.

Doesn't cover Wales, sadly.

Will the schools not giving it all be academies? I’m fairly sure that maintained schools can’t opt out. We still have a fair number of maintained schools around here which makes it harder for the academies to get away with dodgy pay policies.

Just seen on twitter schools will be expected to fund the first 2% and should have budgeted for this

Academies don’t have to stick to the teachers’ pay and conditions so don’t have to pay it. In maintained schools it can be performance related so they can make up reasons not to pay it.

Academy here. Still haven't had the 1%, stand no chance of the other. Won't even get my increment as targets ( hugely unrealistic at 95% pass rate combined) were not met.

And they wonder why people are leaving. I'm planning for an exit.

Chair of governors here. We have a deficit budget already. Don't know where they expect us to find this magic money tree.

All the more reason for governors to lobby government for more cash. Or your teachers will leave. Ok, you can get nqt's but otherwise......

I'm a rare breed- i've stuck it for decades in the classroom ( no interest in slt). I'm looking for an out. Governors and leadership need to be angry about this and not accepting. Fight- get angry- push for change. Lord alone knows they don't listen to mere teachers.

The school I work in had this and they managed to find the money by cutting classroom assistance lunches to 30mins (special school).

Agreed

That was to phleb btw