Teachers: do you believe the moon landings were a hoax?

[noblegiraffe]

I was just on Teacher Tapp and found the results from this poll pretty horrifying: 15% of teachers polled don’t disagree with the statement “I believe the moon landings from 1969 to 1972 were actually a hoax”.

What now? Nearly 1 in 6 of us??

shamofamockery

We don't have to unpick anything, or evaluate anything. But as human beings with independent minds we have that capacity and that right. I am surprised the person you know has never heard of the Holocaust, but I am not going to criticise her for expressing doubt.

Well I am

shamofamockery

Why?

OP all of your posts on this thread are coming across so aggressive.

other view points are not wrong because they are not the same as yours.

All view points are not equally valid when they concern facts. Little Johnny says the answer to 3x+2=8 is x=3. His view point is wrong.

Someone says the moon landings were a hoax? They’re wrong.

I am not a teacher, but interested in this topic. I had a convo with my dh recently, who started to doubt. I was questioning his intelligence, but if 1 in 6 teachers think it could be a hoax, then it's quite understandable regular person watching and reading all those info start to doubt.

I believe it happened.

OP all of your posts on this thread are coming across so aggressive.

So?

DH has a colleague who believes the moon landings were faked. He also believes that the earth is flat.

They both work at a company that, among other things, make components that are used on satellites, you know, those things that go AROUND the world. It's baffling how he can believe that crap.

It sort of reminds me of a Christian I met at uni who was doing earth sciences and believed in creationism and the earth being only 6000 years old. He told me that when he came across information regarding the age of earth he just ignored it because it didn't match his beliefs.

Cognitive dissonance is a powerful force. Once someone has claimed that they don't believe in the moon landings it is very very hard for them on a psychological level to admit that they were wrong, even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

To the person who believes a hyena is a hyena.

What if it identifies as a tiger? You’d never know and it would in fact no longer be a hyena in the eyes of some.

Climate change? Vaccination? Chemotherapy? Gravity?

Thisreally presumably doesn't consider any of these facts either. Or maybe they do actually live their life accepting that experts are to be believed in some matters. We would never have advanced as a civilisation if we individually had to prove things from first principles again and again and again.

Highly intelligent people can believe crazy things. Dr Ben Carson is a well-regarded neurosurgeon that’s pioneering in his field, but he’s totally publicly dumb about many things, climate change and creationism for one.

I know I met the Queen.

No. You know you met an old lady. You were told she was the Queen. You cannot prove that she was.

I love the take on the moon landings being faked in this sketch. How could you keep that many people quiet?
m.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

I dint think it’s fair to be upholding teachers as some sort of superior authority in intelligence. Of course teachers get things wrong and are ignorant in some areas. They’re just a person with a degree in a subject. I wouldn’t expect an English teacher to know much about moon landings for example.

I met a moon landing non believer once.

They believed the shuttle missions were real. So that people have gone into space but that they never landed on the moon. That the footage was recorded in a studio or maybe the Arizona desert. Something about how the flag is fluttering which wouldn’t happen on the moon because there’s no breeze.

I am quite glad to find this thread tbh. I started to become really paranoid when my dh stated it could be hoax, that he was losing his mind. I personally believe it happened. But it's not just him think this may not be true, if 1 in 6 educators aren't sure either, then he isn't that crazy as I imagined.

You mention chemtrails as an example of conspiracy theories, but these do exist.
In relation to moon landings, there was definitely the motivation to fake it. I've had conversations with people who believe we can see the flag the Americans put on the moon through a telescope.

Because I like to think that teachers are reasonably intelligent, and this goes against that.

I like to think that too but when you get teachers telling off your child for putting their hand to check something that is bleeding obviously wrong with " I'm the teacher so I am right", I beg to differ. Most are though but some have the general knowledge of a carrot.

Something about how the flag is fluttering which wouldn’t happen on the moon because there’s no breeze.

I’ll post a link to the thousands of moon mission photos again because some of them are really amazing and well worth a look. (And some of them are a bit crap as you’d expect from real photos taken by real people) www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums/with/72157658638144538

If you look at the Apollo 11 photos, you can see that the flag looks like it’s fluttering, but also that it looks exactly the same in every photo from various angles, so isn’t actually moving.

I wouldn't have said they were a hoax but after actually seeing Tim peakes spacecraft at Peterborough cathedral over half term, I've got my doubts now It looked like a prop out of a badly made movie and I can't get my head round something that looks so basic achieving what it did.

My dh's argument is exactly that, Noble. How do you prove it looks like it's moving but it isn't?

No. I know you met the Queen. Following your logic, you cannot possibly know you did. Because it could have been an imposter, or a hologram or a hallucination. What you met was a lady wearing clothes like the Queen, who looked and sounded like the Queen, doing Queen sort of things in a place where the Queen should have been on that day. For me, that makes her the Queen. For you, there's no way you could be certain.

irvine the flag had a rod in it to hold it out. Get your DH to look through the pictures I linked to.

The problem with conspiracy theory websites is that they do something like post a picture of the flag on the moon and go ‘if there’s no air on the moon why does the flag look like that? Hoax!’

And people think ‘hmm, they’re right, I know there’s no air on the moon and the flag does look like it’s blowing in the wind...now I’m doubting the whole thing’. Instead of thinking ‘well I’m no expert about what a flag on the moon should look like, let’s google, oh, there’s the answer, it has a rod in it’. But it’s quite seductive, the whole ‘given what you know, doesn’t this look weird?’ technique. I’ve seen it used on loads of conspiracy websites.

It's kind of scary, there's too much information these days. If you believe in something, you can find enough info contradicting your belief. I really dread raising a child in this day, especially if you have a child who questions everything.