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How often do teachers actually get TA roles?

29 replies

Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 19:39

Itching to hand in notice. (again)
Do teachers actually get given TA jobs? Sad I know they talk about it a lot...

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geogteach · 14/10/2015 19:54

Don't have any direct experience but my job is tutoring kids who are not in school (most, but not all, excluded). I am currently supporting one into school, which essentially means being his LSA, I am finding it so frustrating, am really not sure I could do it permanently. It is interesting seeing the classroom from a different point of view! It could be different if you had more of a relationship with the teachers than I do but that could be a blessing or a curse depending on the teacher!

Lowdoorinthewall · 14/10/2015 20:47

I applied for one when relocating but was (basically) told at interview that it would never fly and was given a teaching job instead.

Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 21:07

Ah well. Thanks for that. I had my doubts.Sad

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CremeEggThief · 14/10/2015 21:10

I had an interview for one a few weeks ago, but didn't get it.

I did get a temporary post as one last year and was basically used as a teacher. I would be left with the whole class for long periods most days. The only thing I wasn't doing was written planning.

Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 21:24

Just want the courage to jump and find a better life for us...

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DaimYou · 14/10/2015 21:37

We've employed a couple and it felt like a coup at the time of the appointment but TBH they haven't been a success. My experience is that they were struggling as teachers because they weren't very good and that they weren't very good TAs either.

As a decent teacher I'm sure there are schools that would bite your arm off. However, do you fully understand just how poorly paid they are? You could work 40% as a reasonably experienced teacher and be paid more than a 5 day pw TA.

gruber · 14/10/2015 21:40

Yes - a close friend did. Went for a role as TA in a different school that worked as 21 hrs or so over 4 days, she went back when her baby was 11 months as her old school couldn't offer her a part time teaching post and she wanted to stay in work & teaching but couldn't face either planning/marking or full time. After a year her old school were desperate to have her back and offered a part time role (teaching). It is possible!

bearleftmonkeyright · 14/10/2015 21:47

I am a TA, and have never been a teacher. I am increasingly finding it difficult to find permanent work. I am a midday at the moment and applying for anything I can find but job insecurity is a massive problem alongside low pay. Have a look at available vacancies in your area on Indeed and you will see what I mean.

DaimYou · 14/10/2015 21:47

Or do some tutoring and work c. 10 hours a week instead of the 25 (unpaid lunch break) a TA has to do for the same money

Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 22:08

I'm already part time. I do a half week at school. 6 hours on my half day, eleven hours on my full days and a further 10 - 11 hours at home. That works out at £9 -10 per hour before tax.

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gingerdad · 14/10/2015 22:10

My wife spent 2 years as a hlta before returning to teaching and then 3 years later giving up all together.

All 3 tas in her school where ex teachers.

cece · 14/10/2015 22:11

I have a part time teaching job covering PPA. I have marking/planning to do but not all the other admin jobs that go along with having your own class so it suits me.

DaimYou · 14/10/2015 22:12

Really, over 38/39 weeks?! I make it more like £15 If you've been on mainscale for more than a couple of years.

Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 22:16

Are you a teacher Daim?

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Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 22:16

Does your wife work bow Ginger?

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Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 22:17

NowSmile

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IguanaTail · 14/10/2015 22:18

We have an ex teacher who is now a science technician. Could you consider tutoring?

DaimYou · 14/10/2015 22:24

No, School Business Manager, so I do know all the salary scales and am involved in shortlisting applicants for teacher and TA roles.

TBH, I can't believe how little TAs are paid for what they do and they have no security of tenure. Most are on fixed term contracts, they're not popular politically and all schools look there first when they have to make cuts. Salary for a full school day, five days per week is about £7500, although few actually get the full 25 hours.

If there's a way to make teaching work for you, you'll be way way better off IMO. Especially if you hope to return to teaching f-t later. There is a perception, right or wrong, that teachers who switch to LSA work do it because they weren't very good teachers.

Hulababy · 14/10/2015 22:25

I was a secondary teacher for ten years. I am now a HLTA at a primary. I only went for one interview, having done done voluntary work at my Dd's primary - got that job. Been here about 6-7 years and love my job.

It is not uncommon ime. In fact - a couple more of our TAs are qualified teachers too. I know if there's at other schools too.

Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 22:25

Yes done a lot of tutoring too. No tutees at mo as feel too busy.
Part of my job is PPA but it is still my reponsibility to deliver a good or outstanding lesson which is harder in that role and it seems we are now only one poor observation away from an informal competency procedure so feeling the pressure.

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Hulababy · 14/10/2015 22:31

I do a fair bit of teaching - every afternoon as well as being a subject leader, and do internal training for some of our teachers in that subject.
In the morning I support in a classroom.

The pay for a TA is not great and it is normally in a 39 week contract, and pretty much only covers core school hours. However I work a lot more hours behind this and in holidays. I plan, prep and assess so it would be impossible that all into my allocated ppa time.

However, as said before - I love my job. And I am in a fortunate position that I was able to take a job which doesn't pay huge amounts (Dh's job allows me this option and we made a decision together when I went down this I route.)

I did not leave teaching because I wasn't any good. I left for my health - special measures secondary school with no smt support (was rated 4 in all areas) was damaging my health! I first moved to prison ed and then finally into primary which is fab :)

Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 22:38

But Hula...that is a lot for a TA role surely - or are you only a TA in the morning? Shock

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Igiveupn0w · 14/10/2015 22:39

Oh sorry HLTA... stillSad

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rollonthesummer · 15/10/2015 07:11

My cousin has just started as a TA. She takes home nearly the same money working full time 5 days as a TA than she did working one day a week as a teacher!

gingerdad · 15/10/2015 07:13

She now runs a charity shop.