If I'm part time can thery make come in to a proportion of staff meetings on my day off?

[reup]

It's going to cost me hundreds in childcare costs and am not paid extra.. I have to come in for a proportion of inset too but ast least there only 2 of those.

I think if you're a TA and they ask you to come in on your day off to do an INSET, then (if you think it is worthwhile to yourself, e.g. SEN training) ask to be paid. If they say no, then say you can't afford to come in unpaid and so will be unable to do it.

And definitely join a union.

Yes I think the point about weekends is a very good one. I often work weekends. I'd be very annoyed if it was expected other than in extremely exceptional circumstances (more than once a year would annoy me) and I'd certainly be annoyed to be expected to 'be somewhere' looking presentable, unless that was the very rare important situation.

And in fact I have a direct comparison. I often attend meetings and events. If I have to be there for 9 I stay the night before. If it was on a Monday I expect it to start later as I'm not travelling on Sunday evening.

I worked as a TA briefly and you just worked your hours on the inset days, so I left at lunchtime. The most annoying thing was the ks2 day finished at 12.15 and ks1 at 12. They had merged several years ago and everyone was on different hours. All the new recruits were only paid till 12 but the lessons finished at 12.15. The head said we should take our intervention groups back at 12. But sometimes the teachers would get really cross (there were a couple of deeply unpleasant ones) so we ended up keeping them 15 for free. One of my colleagues worked out it was a whole weeks wages we lost over the course of a year!

Anyway thanks for all the responses. I think I have sorted and felt pleased by my assertiveness (which is rare.)

I did a part time teaching job many years ago and some full time staff members got snarky if I said that I wasn't coming in for something on my days off. (I had actually done loads before on my days off and decided that enough was enough). I politely reminded them that I wouldn't get paid and said to make it fair we should re-schedule it for a Saturday when we could all come in and no-one would get paid. To be fair on one of them, they actually apologised and said they'd never thought of it like that before!!

Sorry Reup, just read your last posting properly! That's a really good point about timings of lunchtime. My hours will finish 20 minutes before lunchtime starts, so for me it would mean giving them nearly an extra two hours a week. That won't be happening.............:)

Does anyone know whether a part-timer who always works on staff meeting day is expected to attend every staff meeting?
And, if part-timer wanted to attend every INSET day, should they be paid for it? Even if INSET day was for writing reports?

Part-timer here -and union rep! Any additional insets should be paid but head needs to agree that you can do them. Staff meetings on days you work-I do them all as it puts me in head's good books and means I get allowed to take time off every now and then to go to dd's show etc. However, as far as I am aware, you only need to go to a certain amount, depending on the hrs you work ie pro-rata.

Pudding is correct. My day off is Monday so I don't go to any staff training meetings that day. Dept mtgs are on a different day that I do work. I only have to attend 0.8 of them, which works out at missing one a half term, roughly.

Thank you. I've had an issue recently where I though the head had agreed to me going to all INSET days, so I did. When I claimed for a day's supply he told me he would only pay for half a day. I think we might both had misunderstood the discussion about INSET and being paid (new head) but I was cross he told me after I had claimed (when he knew I'd been in all day and had to arrange childcare).

Sorry for typos. Mnetting whilst making a cuppa!

That's so annoying 43cups. What I do is e-mail my head in advance of the Insets to confirm it is ok to come in so I know that I will get paid.

If you work 0.6, then you officially only have to attend 0.6 of staff meetings that are on a day you work. My school produces a timetable of what's being covered in staff meetings for this term, with asterisks next to the important ones they would like all staff to attend, so part-timers know. I work 0.8, and go to all meetings because I'm there, and as someone else says it builds goodwill.
I've had to negotiate various things with my Head this year though, and I'm lucky that she's fairly reasonable, and I am happy to stand my ground if I think it's necessary.

So for example there have been 2 INSETs on the day I don't work this year, one a report writing day, and one a 'class room environment' day - revamping working walls, displays, storage etc. Initially I was told not working those day was tough, I just wouldn't be given the time. But I then had a sensible conversation with my Head, asking her if my 0.2 job share was going to write all my reports and revamp my classroom on those days then, as he was in school on those days (0.2 job share is Deputy Head, who is very good but v busy and literally teaches the sessions on his day, marks the books and then is gone - he plans and teaches what I ask him to in the morning, does PE in the afternoon, and nothing more). Of course he wasn't going to do any of that, his INSET day was full of meetings and TA training etc, as they assume reports and classroom environment are my responsibility. And I just said that I it was unreasonable to expect me to do it all without the time all other class teachers were being given. So they paid me for the classroom day, and I came in, and they covered me with supply on one of my working days to so I could report write at home.

Thank you. I will be getting clarification before inset days now, I (wrongly!) assumed that because I'd been in on all inset days previously, it would be ok for me to be there and be paid. I never even thought that I'd be entitled to just half a day, but as the head (quite unpleasantly) pointed out, why did I think we should be entitled to twice as much report writing time as everyone else? Hard being a job share sometimes!