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The royal family

Debating the monarchy's relevance, reform and public accountability in modern Britain

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LipglossAndLies · 07/08/2026 08:55

Welcome to this thread! 👋 I am hoping it provides a dedicated space to discuss and debate the relevance, utility, and future of the institution of monarchy in modern times.

To help make this a welcoming space for genuine discussion, I would like to encourage everyone to follow a few simple guidelines:

💬 Respectful Challenge, Not Nastiness: let's keep the focus entirely on the ideas, not the people posting them.

👀 Focus on the roles, not the people: This thread is about governance, constitutional law, economics, and the function of a head of state. I think it would help to use the official roles and not personal names to keep the conversation completely agnostic.

🙏 Gossip free: Please avoid discussing personal family drama, media feuds, or the private lives of individual family members. There are plenty of other threads for that!

💁‍♀️ Report or ignore: If you feel someone is not commenting in good faith, or is trying to provoke a hostile reaction as it will help keep the conversation on track.

To kick off the debate, for me I would think its time for significant structural reform. Recent years have highlighted major blind spots in how official state roles such as official trade or investment envoy appointments are handed out, funded, and scrutinised by the public. When individuals holding these titles face serious scrutiny over their expenses, or how they utilise state-backed influence, it reflects heavily on the entire institution.

If the monarchy is to survive in modern times, it needs to move past a culture of internal deference and accept rigorous financial oversight, auditing, and transparency as any other government body receiving taxpayers money.

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MrsOctaviaCharlotteSmythe · 07/08/2026 21:38

ilostmyheid · 07/08/2026 21:08

What is a gooden?

a good and interesting thread

ilostmyheid · 07/08/2026 21:46

Oh a goodun - got you.

adragoncalledaudrey · 07/08/2026 22:12

I wonder if the same courtesy would be returned regarding financial information.

Some would not and I understand.

”As Republic operates as a private advocacy organisation and limited company rather than a major publicly listed corporation or high-level government body, specific executive compensation figures for its staff are not legally required to be itemized in standard public filings in a way that reveals his personal pay.”

I am all for transparency if every one is. My salary band is out there for all to see. A nosy neighbour took note of all the days I worked and pretty much worked out what my take home pay was almost to the penny.

They reckoned they were entitled to know as they ‘pay’ for me too.

I cared more that they were watching me so intently and I wasn’t aware. The money was less troubling!

The Royals can keep their royalling!

parallhel · 08/08/2026 11:03

bluegreygreen · 07/08/2026 21:17

Significant assets can also be left via trusts, and as I understand it trust distribution information is private.

Appointments from a trust can be private, however AFAIK the objects (potential beneficiaries) of the trust must be named or itemised in the will trust document.

OliveMyLove · 08/08/2026 12:33

LipglossAndLies · 07/08/2026 11:01

Im not going to police this rigidly I just hope people understand my point is not to get into William doesn't do engagemrnts he is lazy. Instead as best possible lets talk about what acitivites should a King, the heir, the spare do (if at all). Because the actual person in that role does change.

I don't think it will be possible to completely avoid it but best endeavours 😁

Why would you post a list of rules then immediately break them yourself by disparaging a specific member of the Royal family?

It’s not against talk guidelines but obviously not in good faith.

OneFancyBird · 16/08/2026 15:10

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OliveMyLove · 16/08/2026 15:33

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adragoncalledaudrey · 16/08/2026 16:04

I’m sure @LipglossAndLies will be calling it out soon.

Hypocritical not to I should think.

CathyorClaire · 16/08/2026 20:25

simpsonthecat · 16/08/2026 10:59

To revive this thread.... it looks like Charles & William may have to step up as landlords.
Damning reports about their Duchy rental properties.
Who will pay for this I wonder...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/aug/16/king-charles-and-prince-william-face-10m-energy-upgrade-bill-for-estates

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/aug/15/royal-estates-rent-out-homes-that-fail-to-meet-legal-energy-efficiency-standards

Astonishing that W's PR has been trumpeting the waiving of grass roots rents to the stonking amount of £10k a year and the recent waiving of future income from the unusable prison (no mention of a rebate on the £4.5m already trousered) while letting this scandal rumble on. TBF though no squeak of C doing anything close.

However I'm quite sure both will find a way to defray any costs onto the shoulders of the taxpayer others.

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