PR disasters thread 18

[NormalAuntFanny]

Since I finished off the last one by accident here is a shiny new 999 posts which might last us until the end of the heatwave

Thank you @Indianrollerbird and @Serenster - & I'll quickly quote this "Anyway - based on this you can’t say the law doesn’t recognise children born by surrogate pregnancies in the rules governing inheritance - as the judge pointed out, it has never come up in the past authorities, so this has never actually been decided."

My very vicarious knowledge of the law , (via DS) is that precedent is a big thing. & I can see here judges etc would not have precedent to fall back on.
I still don't believe the not real children surrogacy thing but as neither A nor L are likely to accede to the crown , I suppose it doesn't matter. I personally am not minded to hop on board with every bonkers theory about them. There is enough to discuss - I'm not going to make things up to criticise them

But thank you both for those posts - that's interesting.

Edit - sense

Investitures today at Windsor castle. I'm just posting the X link to what was posted on instagram, there's a lady in red who does the most perfect, graceful curtsey.

Just in case anyone watching the thread needs reminding how to curtsey should the need arise.

https://x.com/SabirahLohn/status/2069804566149763351?s=20

The law is always vicarious when the thought of giving women and non blood related family a cut of the cake!!

Wow! That lady in red must have practiced her curtsey for days. That certainly shows folk how it's done.
And doesn't this clip show William as having grown into being his own man now? The Prince of Wales, heir to the throne - there's just no comparison with Harry!

What? Did W forget to slap her on the ass? Can you even imagine the howls of outrage if he decided to play a "prank" like that!

And for people who say it’s outdated etc etc, I just think to see that shows a wonderful appreciation of the whole ceremony and mutual respect from William to those receiving awards for hard work and achievements and the recipients celebrating recognition. It’s not about grovelling before an outdated monarchy.

Prince William hosted a halfway celebration for Earthshot at Windsor Castle yesterday (as well as investitures earlier in the day). Gorgeous photos of the event on instagram.
Some people on X think it was kept under wraps. No chance of someone jumping in to take over the news cycle. Unfortunately the press don’t give nearly enough credit to the work William is doing, it looks to have been a great evening that deserved some publicity!

I love the planting on those photos, they are great photos.

Good points, and I was just reflecting how much news coverage H&M get in comparison. Their "tour" of Australia warrented a whole section of the BBC news.
What William does is not covered as much.
I know he doesn't seek publicity like they do, but even so.

Agree. It gives weight and a sense of occasion.

Maybe he has the balance right and gets enough publicity that’s relevant and dignified for his role. Excess publicity is often counter productive, sensationalist and unsustainable.

I guess this could reflect the biased and inaccurate ideology that the BBC was captured by under former DGs Tony Hall and Tim Davie, when a whole load of ‘training’ was bought in from highly partial lobby groups masquerading as charities and non-profits and lapped up by its graduate workforce.

Within this broader picture, the BBC adopted the caricature position of William = Establishment (boring, monarchist), and Harry = Rebel (interesting, non-monarchist). This false binary also helped the BBC do that thing it’s not supposed to do, chase for clicks and likes.

The berks on the ‘Royal Desk’ and all the News and Royal editors appear to be unable to focus on analysis over caricature. Their overarching framework doesn’t allow them to drill down to Harry’s hypocrisies.

The occasional semi-reasonable reports seem to come from, eg, the BBC’s Legal desk on Harry’s court cases, not the News/Royal ones.

I wonder how the new DG Matt Britton will manage it? He seems to have a better handle on the ‘ideological capture’ problem. The BBC is supposed to be impartial, informative and accurate - that’s all people want.

Good points, and I was just reflecting how much news coverage H&M get in comparison. Their "tour" of Australia warrented a whole section of the BBC news.

I just had a quick check of the BBC and the Guardian environment and news pages- they are full of the current heat wave and climate change but no mention of William's Earthshot event, that seems to be covered only by Royal press releases on SM
earthshotprize.org/

Oh the irony….

Yes, those are very good points, and demonstrates the poor journalism of the BBC, and why some people fall for the narrative you've outlined. I did wonder about their lack of coverage of Earthshot and the Homelessness project. Also for that matter, Camilla's work on DV. I tried in vain to find coverage of Sophie talking to girls and women survivors of rape in Sudan.
However, the Sussexes on Bondi Beach? 10 mins of prime time BBC news. Very fawning.

Email the bbc if you feel so strongly. Doubt it will make a difference but see what they say!

What they usually say when I question coverage.
Not very much, but in a word salad.
That's their editorial approach to the RF, and won't change until they deploy better journalism.

I’ve just emailed
I’ll let you all know what they say! Probably not much 😁

Good luck! 🤞

When I complained about the Bondi Beach coverage - non working royals doing a self promotion tour, they said that H&M were "public figures who generate interest". There was no response to my questioning of the very biased, positive reporting of the "royal tour". In particular Meghan linking her clothes to an online shop for personal profit.

This is a good post, as always, from AutumnCrow. But I must just make special mention of the use of the word “berks”. I haven’t heard it used in that way for years!

I wish I could write like that, MyAutumnCrow

You've absolutely captured the reason I no longer go to the BBC for anything approaching news, and that's before we get to their appalling attitude to the truth, journalistic integrity and accountability

As I've said so often though, all governments no doubt appreciate having a mouthpiece they can control via the licence fee, so while I very much respect those like Recklessismymiddlename who challenge them, I wouldn't expect any change

Came across this via reddit, the way they talk about receipts makes me think of might be a mumsnetter.

Good comments on the complete failure, a sever-wise of the Diana ring thing.

https://www.brewtifulliving.com/royals/meghan-markle-blue-ring-as-ever-kate

That's on the mark! Very convincing that As Ever is a campaign aimed at Kate pretending to be a business.

This isn't a defence of the BBC, but I think in part at least it isn't ideological as it is existential. They are competing for clicks just as much as anyone else, so they'll be drawn to the lure of hate clicks.

But I really hate that it's the case that they do this. I would rather they just stuck to basic areas of news, and didn't do the "live updates" format for every last thing. Just write me an article about the key events of the day, and be done with it.