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The royal family

PR Disasters Chapter 14

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Recklessismymiddlename · 22/05/2026 10:43

Continuing the baton on from @Atlusvue

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noonames · 29/05/2026 17:38

So much about their claims of racism is jaw dropping. Harry's later denial especially so I think. What Meghan alleged in the Oprah interview cannot possibly be anything other than racism - they won't give him a title or security because of the colour of his skin - this is quite clearly not unconscious bias, it's racism whether you say the word or not. Yet Harry went on TV and denied his wife's very clear allegation.

So either Meghan quite deliberately lied about racism in the RF, and having accepted the Kennedy Foundation award, Harry is now happy to expose his wife's lie. Or here's a privileged white man (with a history of racist behaviour himself) telling the world that his WOC wife was wrong to see racism in the RF, and he knows better. Either way, not a good look imo.

Or they're a pair of fools who change their mind and think they can get away with denying behaviour which is in the public domain, depending on which particular flavour of whinge they are indulging in. So one minute, poor us, they hate us because racism. Next minute, poor us, they hate us for saying they're racist when we didn't even say that.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2026 17:41

Serenster · 29/05/2026 17:20

(And I totally call bullshit on any suggestion from Oprah that this line of questioning was not set up in advance with Meghan. Oprah introduces the issue with “Do you think it’s because of his race? and then herself draws the conclusion that it would be be a problem if Archie was too brown, which Meghan endorses. That’s a set up if ever I saw one…)

Exactly, Serenster - and thanks for the link BTW

Then there's the issue of why Harry was only wheeled on after the more unpleasant suggestions had been made ... we're the two women afraid he'd spoil their little act perhaps?

Recklessismymiddlename · 29/05/2026 17:49

Indianrollerbird · 29/05/2026 13:33

That's my recollection too @Mylovelygreendress , and the BBC article stands to this day. Combined with Robert Hardman's source saying how very upset she was that they had taken the "only thing that was hers and hers alone" (I'm paraphrasing), I think we can say with some confidence that Harry was, once again, not being truthful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57408163

There is a restaurant in Mayfair called Lilibets. I think it’s in the house where the late Queen was born.

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BasiliskStare · 29/05/2026 18:03

Serenster · 29/05/2026 17:20

(And I totally call bullshit on any suggestion from Oprah that this line of questioning was not set up in advance with Meghan. Oprah introduces the issue with “Do you think it’s because of his race? and then herself draws the conclusion that it would be be a problem if Archie was too brown, which Meghan endorses. That’s a set up if ever I saw one…)

@Serenster - I could not agree with you more. I watched the OW interview and it was (to me ) jawdropping in the audience it gave M and H to say what they wanted without question. Of course they have been pulled up on things afterwards. However , whilst I agree the RF say nothing strategy has given them enough rope to hang themselves , by goodness they're (H&M) taking advantage of it.
I reckon OW doesn't think that was her finest hour. But does she care? If I were her I wouldn't be hanging around for the MM book / divorce story. However that is the difference between very ambitious people who want to increase their riches and little ol' me 😊 Which is why I don't have a private jet and a mega mansion and multiple homes. Each to their own.

wordler · 29/05/2026 18:06

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2026 17:41

Exactly, Serenster - and thanks for the link BTW

Then there's the issue of why Harry was only wheeled on after the more unpleasant suggestions had been made ... we're the two women afraid he'd spoil their little act perhaps?

Well when he came on he contradicted Meghan’s version straight away.

She had said there were multiple conversations going on while she was pregnant with Archie about how dark his skin was going to be.

Harry came on and said it was one conversation which took place before they were even married.

And if he’d had a shred of decency in him he’d have pointed out that the only reason his kids didn’t have Prince/Princess titles was because they were great grandchildren of the Queen.

Aprilfountain · 29/05/2026 18:21

BasiliskStare · 29/05/2026 14:24

@Puzzledandpissedoff Just so re "suggest" and plausible - not not so plausible deniability " - M didn't explicitly say A was not made a prince because of the colour of his skin , but she sailed as close to the wind as she could and Oprah helped her out. That's egregious IMHO. But the pair of them were in their "everyone's racist & that's why M had a hard time " time , subsequently hamfistedly taken back. But it was a big deal at the time. & H , however dim he is , should have known when his child could expect a title. If he didn't well , I have no words. * It does not surprise me OW has taken that interview off line. She looked like a willing dupe. Albeit I am sure one who was crying all the way to the bank.

  • I might actually but a useful phrase 😊

Brilliant post, absolutely correct 👏👏👏👏

BasiliskStare · 29/05/2026 18:21

@Wordler "And if he’d had a shred of decency in him he’d have pointed out that the only reason his kids didn’t have Prince/Princess titles was because they were great grandchildren of the Queen."

Just so - even Harry couldn't have been so dim as to know what his children were entitled to at the time they were entitled to it. The pair of them were dreadful in that interview IMHO.

JoanChitty · 29/05/2026 18:28

An oldie but a goodie!

SummerMadnessBegins · 29/05/2026 18:28

Recklessismymiddlename · 29/05/2026 17:49

There is a restaurant in Mayfair called Lilibets. I think it’s in the house where the late Queen was born.

As a nickname and term of endearment, Lillibet is lovely, especially contrasting with the formality of Queen Elizabeth II. As a given name it's totally naff, even more so with the title Princess. The Queen must've been horrified. It would be like christening a child Plum or Lottie, they aren't formal names. Archie was bad enough but Lillibet... what were they thinking?

Starryfifty · 29/05/2026 18:48

I well believe this and believe this is why they flounced

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2026 19:14

When (Harry) came on he contradicted Meghan’s version straight away

Very true, @wordler, and that's why I wondered whether - knowing how witless he is - they kept him off set for most of it, so as not to spoil the effect

bluegreygreen · 29/05/2026 19:31

He still allowed the final version to be broadcast.

It wasn't a live interview. He will have had opportunities to approve (or otherwise) what was said.

He has had years to dissociate himself from the deliberate falsehoods in the programme, as well as the questionable inferences (thinking here of the false UK tabloid headlines, for example).

Justdancevance · 29/05/2026 19:47

I don’t think Meghan would want a ghostwriter as she thinks she’s probably a better writer

The bench was a pile of shit, so I can imagine her biography would be unintentionally hilarious.

The poor editor would have their work cut out 😆

Starryfifty · 29/05/2026 20:04

Justdancevance · 29/05/2026 19:47

I don’t think Meghan would want a ghostwriter as she thinks she’s probably a better writer

The bench was a pile of shit, so I can imagine her biography would be unintentionally hilarious.

The poor editor would have their work cut out 😆

Oh lord, I remember that sank like a turd but lauded as a bestseller. The woman has absolutely zero talent. It's quite remarkable

MyAutumnCrow · 29/05/2026 20:11

She is rather remarkle for not possessing an atom of self-doubt, despite all the evidence that she really should.

HeddaGarbled · 29/05/2026 20:21

Oh god, how bad was The Bench 😃

She cut the last word from “alone” to “lone” to make it scan. Mind you, she misuses and makes up words all the time (“year of learns” etc) so it was par for the course.

hatorgal · 29/05/2026 20:32

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2026 17:03

M didn't explicitly say A was not made a prince because of the colour of his skin , but she sailed as close to the wind as she could and Oprah helped her out

Exactly, @basiliskstare
If memory serves, and without looking up the exact words, it was something along the lines of "If that's the assumption you want to make I believe it's a safe one"

In other words the MO I referred to ... someone else said it, not me

They really must think people are completely stupid, and I've edited to add that goes for Oprah too, with her ridiculous claim that Meghan didn't know what questions would be asked Hmm

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Meghan is the classic sneaky bully - she sets people up, winds the key and watches them go then sits there and says " who me?". She is a devious snake intertwined with the madwoman who suddenly loses the plot. She's trying to play a role all the time. I would hate to be her. It must be hell.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2026 20:41

bluegreygreen · 29/05/2026 19:31

He still allowed the final version to be broadcast.

It wasn't a live interview. He will have had opportunities to approve (or otherwise) what was said.

He has had years to dissociate himself from the deliberate falsehoods in the programme, as well as the questionable inferences (thinking here of the false UK tabloid headlines, for example).

You're quite right, bluegreygreen, but then like so much of the crap he spouts I guess the narrative suited him at the time ... and too bad for him that it's all on record so undeniable

CathyorClaire · 29/05/2026 20:45

Also, there's Meghan's much trumpeted first foray into investment with Clevr Coffee in Dec 2020

Wasn't the coffee brand found to have been sourcing ingredients from a region in China associated with forced labour?

Guess that bit missed her freakish eye for detail.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 29/05/2026 20:46

It is funny how the quotes have come to bite them on the arse.

CathyorClaire · 29/05/2026 21:10

FenellaFeldman · 29/05/2026 16:23

Absolutely this. Harry is the worst version of royalty, and by connection, Meghan too. It's just about the titles, status, wealth and privilege.

While I think they're all appalling and I'm not a defender of any, I think MW would comfortably win a 'worst version' face-off with H any time.

All of them are unhealthily addicted to meaningless titles, unearned status wealth and privilege.

NormalAuntFanny · 29/05/2026 21:16

A completely bollocks news source but 10/10 for a complete bingo card of manifestation and, in the context of some great posts today, a rehash of recent lies varying recollections.

ca.news.yahoo.com/prince-harry-reportedly-shocked-depressed-050000130.html

HoldMyWine · 29/05/2026 21:40

Probably the RF like the rest of us normal people don’t think an 8th wedding anniversary is a big deal.

noonames · 29/05/2026 21:43

Like a lot of media coverage, that article somehow manages to be both unbelievable and horribly plausible 😬

On the one hand, surely nobody could be so deluded, self-important, peevish.

On the other hand, these are the people who thought the head of state should put their personal interests ahead of those of the country. Who think it’s ok to use sick children and survivors of terrorist atrocities to merch clothes. Harry has accused his family of racism and wishing him harm, publicly fantasised about killing his father, suggested that the Wales children need his protection. And now it’s waaah where’s my anniversary card from Pa? There is something seriously wrong with these two I think. And I don’t mean the PTSD. I feel sorry for William having to deal with this shit for the rest of his life.