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Beatrice and Eugenie banned from Ascot part 2

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BillericayDickie · 04/04/2026 08:53

Interesting thread so heres hoping it continues

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jeffgoldblum · 04/04/2026 16:40

Bimmering · 04/04/2026 16:24

I don't think it's a big deal that Kate used to smoke. But it's another reminder that the press are very very favourable to her - the slightest thing that might be viewed as negative gets buried

a certain other royal lady smoked and the press haven’t reported on that either!

Recklessismymiddlename · 04/04/2026 16:43

I love that Erdem that Kate’s wearing. I know Erdem isn’t popular on here, but if I could afford the clothes, I so would wear them.

BasiliskStare · 04/04/2026 16:45

Serenster · 04/04/2026 14:17

I haven’t read the Mail artcile, but I expect that Mail has decided to repackage as a revelation the old news that Edoardo Mapelli-Mozzi’s family title of Conte has no legal standing, but is used as a social courtesy only. As has been the case for all the titles of the Italian nobility since the formation of the Italian Republic in 1947.

This is very normal in former European monarchies. Beatrice Borromeo who married into the Monaco royal family is likewise the daughter of the Count of Arona (not a legal title either). Her sister in law, Princess Alexandra of Hanover (daughter of Princess Caroline of Monaco and Print Ernest of Hanover) also has a “courtesy title” only since the German nobility was abolished after WWI.

This has never been a secret. Just of no interest to most people I imagine!

Edited

Just so . A friend of DS's was going out with an Italian chap whilst she was at university. No great shakes he (Italian chap) . His refrain seemed to be "but if you stick with me I can make you an Italian Countess " * . She's a lovely young woman & decided "you need more than that Sonny Jim" . She is something of a friend of the family now , being still a close friend of DS so we are careful in our pronunciation now when referring to him. 😊.

  • & We went through the through the - give me the wool etc jokes at the time.
FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/04/2026 16:49

There does seem to be a whiff of trying to repackage perfectly normal and long understood position of European titles, as hinting that he’s so sort of con artist who’s got one over of foolish Beatrice and hoodwinked the royal family.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/04/2026 16:53

Bimmering · 04/04/2026 16:24

I don't think it's a big deal that Kate used to smoke. But it's another reminder that the press are very very favourable to her - the slightest thing that might be viewed as negative gets buried

Yes, there is very different treatment of some royals to others, and Kate has had a very easy ride.

jeffgoldblum · 04/04/2026 17:02

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/04/2026 16:53

Yes, there is very different treatment of some royals to others, and Kate has had a very easy ride.

??? Really? Have you forgotten the horrendous treatment she received while she was dating William! , the press in packs blocking her car , surrounding her constantly in the street .. shouting “ whore” and “bitch “ at her to get a reaction, lying in the gutter trying to take photos up her skirt ? She was only 20 when this happened, the illegal phone tapping that was done to her phone more than William that started the original inquiry?
the long lense pictures of her topless that were published in a French paper ( because that was too much for even our papers)
she has not had a easy ride for anyone who remembers the actual behaviour of the media to her.

BillericayDickie · 04/04/2026 17:22

I don’t like that dress that Kate is wearing in Sweden.
but I think it’s just personal taste.

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BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2026 17:31

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/04/2026 16:53

Yes, there is very different treatment of some royals to others, and Kate has had a very easy ride.

Or the where's Kate craziness? Or she does a lousy job Photoshopping one photo and it's an international uproar and other royals Photoshop on almost a daily basis and get praised by their groupees.

Recollections can really vary.

Laiste · 04/04/2026 17:43

I don't know why anyone would be annoyed by the idea of Kate being given an 'easy ride' even if it were true!

Why the race to the bottom?

Recklessismymiddlename · 04/04/2026 17:43

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/04/2026 16:53

Yes, there is very different treatment of some royals to others, and Kate has had a very easy ride.

Apart from (off the top of my head:-
the where is Kate stuff when she was ill, being photographed topless, being upskirted, having misogynistic slurs shouted at her when she was dating William.

BillericayDickie · 04/04/2026 17:45

It doesn’t sound like she had it that easy. On the previous thread it was posted that the York sisters were nasty to her.

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JSMill · 04/04/2026 17:57

Rofl at the thought that Kate had an easy ride!

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/04/2026 17:59

BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2026 17:31

Or the where's Kate craziness? Or she does a lousy job Photoshopping one photo and it's an international uproar and other royals Photoshop on almost a daily basis and get praised by their groupees.

Recollections can really vary.

That was the one time the mask slipped! Remember the actual newspapers didn’t run the “where’s Kate?” Story for a couple of weeks after it was already all over social media. The newspapers tried to follow the official line for as long as they could before it looked ridiculous they weren’t covering it.

Do you really think if Meghan or another royal was so obviously not telling the truth about a hospital stay, that their husbands were not seen visiting after the first day, and that their planned length of stay in hospital had been and gone by some way without any update- that the newspapers would not have questioned what was going on?

Catherine got an easy ride then from the newspapers and only got any sort of scrutiny once she’d been trending on social media for days.

The photoshopped photos also were not picked up or analysed by the newspapers - it was again only after it was being widely discussed on social media they covered that. Initially- even though they are in a much better position to notice if a photo is fake - they just printed it first then followed the public momentum.

That whole drama was of the palace / Wales’ own making - if anything the traditional media treated them very softly and were quick to kill the story.

JSMill · 04/04/2026 18:00

I remember reading that, pre engagement, when K would arrive at something, W’s hooray Henry friends would shout ‘doors to manual’. (Obviously a reference to Carole Middleton) Lovely people.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/04/2026 18:03

BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2026 17:31

Or the where's Kate craziness? Or she does a lousy job Photoshopping one photo and it's an international uproar and other royals Photoshop on almost a daily basis and get praised by their groupees.

Recollections can really vary.

Oh and the reason she got hassled about the photoshopped photo was because it was being used by the palace as a “proof of life” photo! This wasn’t supposed to be a normal family photo, it was the evidence the stories she was dead or very close to dying was not true.

Even then, the uk newspapers accepted it until social media and world press did not.

jeffgoldblum · 04/04/2026 18:06

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/04/2026 17:59

That was the one time the mask slipped! Remember the actual newspapers didn’t run the “where’s Kate?” Story for a couple of weeks after it was already all over social media. The newspapers tried to follow the official line for as long as they could before it looked ridiculous they weren’t covering it.

Do you really think if Meghan or another royal was so obviously not telling the truth about a hospital stay, that their husbands were not seen visiting after the first day, and that their planned length of stay in hospital had been and gone by some way without any update- that the newspapers would not have questioned what was going on?

Catherine got an easy ride then from the newspapers and only got any sort of scrutiny once she’d been trending on social media for days.

The photoshopped photos also were not picked up or analysed by the newspapers - it was again only after it was being widely discussed on social media they covered that. Initially- even though they are in a much better position to notice if a photo is fake - they just printed it first then followed the public momentum.

That whole drama was of the palace / Wales’ own making - if anything the traditional media treated them very softly and were quick to kill the story.

I knew where you were going but wanted to do the op the respect of not going down the road!

however … you are aware that Harry and Meghan did lie about a hospital visit when she gave birth to Archie , so perhaps you should fact check yourself before trying to criticise one woman to lift another!

jeffgoldblum · 04/04/2026 18:10

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/04/2026 18:03

Oh and the reason she got hassled about the photoshopped photo was because it was being used by the palace as a “proof of life” photo! This wasn’t supposed to be a normal family photo, it was the evidence the stories she was dead or very close to dying was not true.

Even then, the uk newspapers accepted it until social media and world press did not.

Why exactly would they need a proof of life photo when she wasn’t dead!!
you sound just like the people who swallowed the conspiracy rubbish on sm !
this thread is supposed to be about the York daughters, it would be nice to not introduce h and m or w and c to it .

myrtleWilson · 04/04/2026 18:22

When did Kate 'not tell the truth about a hospital stay"....?

Reddog1 · 04/04/2026 18:25

That ghost clothes peg outfit looks like something Sarah Jessica Parker would have worn as Carrie Bradshaw back in the day.

myrtleWilson · 04/04/2026 18:28

Also when did this happen re Kate "planned length of stay in hospital had been and gone by some way without any update" There was a press release detailing admission, expected length of stay predicted 10-14 days and a press release on discharge (I think day 13?)

Bimmering · 04/04/2026 18:41

I still think Kate does get an easy ride, in terms of the tone of the coverage of her.

The press thrive on a clear narrative - with B and E, it is "fat ugly sisters" that's how all of the coverage of them is pitched. With Kate, it's "classy English rose"

What others have cited is all about getting more photos of her, not saying nasty things about her. There has been very little criticism of her, is what I am trying to get at. Even though she actually has a public role.

ThatAvidViewer · 04/04/2026 18:51

Bimmering · 04/04/2026 18:41

I still think Kate does get an easy ride, in terms of the tone of the coverage of her.

The press thrive on a clear narrative - with B and E, it is "fat ugly sisters" that's how all of the coverage of them is pitched. With Kate, it's "classy English rose"

What others have cited is all about getting more photos of her, not saying nasty things about her. There has been very little criticism of her, is what I am trying to get at. Even though she actually has a public role.

It’s honestly hard to agree with the idea that she’s had an “easy ride.” That ignores a huge amount of what she’s been through with the media over the past 20+ years.

Before she even became a senior royal, she was relentlessly pursued by paparazzi—followed constantly, chased in cars to the point of creating dangerous situations, and subjected to serious invasions of privacy. That included upskirting and the publication of topless photos without her consent.

On top of that, there were years of negative commentary about her and her family. She was criticised for not being aristocratic enough, her background was picked apart, and she was given demeaning nicknames in the press.

Her appearance was constantly scrutinised—from her weight to her style to virtually every aspect of how she looked.

There was also the phone hacking scandal, where her voicemail was reportedly accessed over a hundred times—more than some actual royals—which shows just how intensely she was targeted.

And that’s not even getting into the “Where is Kate?” frenzy a couple of years ago, where speculation and conspiracy theories spread widely and the media environment became incredibly intrusive all over again.

So no, the idea that she’s been largely spared criticism or treated gently by the media just doesn’t hold up. It overlooks a long track record of scrutiny, intrusion, and, at times, outright hostility.

Serenster · 04/04/2026 19:19

Because it’s quite possible people forget what life was like for Kate before she was married, here’s a link to a blog post summarising the media coverage of Kate life in 2007 - just one year in her life, when she was a private citizen in her 20s, not entitled to any official security, trying to work and dating Prince William.

The events covered include Kate being hounded by over 30 paparazzi on her 25th birthday. Some lenses were thrust less than a foot from her face, and her car was blocked. Much of the coverage is of Kate on her way to work at Jigsaw - a job Kate ultimately had to leave because of press intrusion. She also had to pull out of an all-girls cross-Chanel rowing team she had joined. This was because of “security issues.” The leader of the crew said: said: “It’s dangerous enough as it is, without having to take into consideration the world’s [paparazzi] causing us to capsize the whole time. They’ve been a nightmare”.

William himself released a statement asking for the press to back off, and Kate’s lawyer also stated she strongly objected to having her photograph taken in a public place while going about her private business, but nothing changed. A lot of the photos covered in this year were taken by photographers harrassing Kate despite being asked not to take her photo (videos were filmed of this) and photographers lying in the gutter or jumping on the front of taxis to take photos looking up her skirts.

An article in June illustrates the extraordinary level of press intrusion Kate was subject to: “”On the eve of the show, Kate left her flat in Chelsea at 9pm and arrived at Clarence House - William's London home - around midnight. Her Audi car, which she had left at a Mayfair hotel car park, was collected by an aide and driven into Clarence House, waved through by police on guard at 1.45am. Kate did not return to her London home until 4am

Kate endured nearly ten years of this. Not to mention the phone hacking and breach of privacy photos. I haven’t even mentioned the negative headlines either….

https://thebritgirl.tumblr.com/post/124384506572/catherines-life-a-timeline-2007

Catherine's life: A timeline (2007)

January 3rd, 2007: Catherine is photographed getting a parking ticket near her house. January 4th, 2007: Catherine is escorted by six police officers as she leaves her house in Chelsea to go to...

https://thebritgirl.tumblr.com/post/124384506572/catherines-life-a-timeline-2007

CathyorClaire · 04/04/2026 20:14

Mylovelygreendress · 04/04/2026 12:39

Back to the Yorks…
Is someone able to Archive this please ?

Catching up so I don't think I'm repeating a link:

https://archive.ph/5hMLT

It's an interesting article.

Confirms what I've always suspected i.e. that he's not the super rich property whizz he's inexplicably been sold and swallowed as. A quick glance at the freely available business accounts has always suggested that.

Any sucker commissioning him on the basis of a royal connection is, well, a sucker IMO although he does seem to have pulled in a gullible few given his profits have increased since his marriage.

I don't think it's mentioned in the article but he's supposed to have landed a couple of deals related to titifying Royal Lodge.

I would love to see an enquiry into the cosy contracts the royals divvy up between family and adjuncts.

bluegreygreen · 04/04/2026 20:19

Do you really think if Meghan or another royal was so obviously not telling the truth about a hospital stay, that their husbands were not seen visiting after the first day, and that their planned length of stay in hospital had been and gone by some way without any update- that the newspapers would not have questioned what was going on?

Kensington Palace announced on 17th January 2024 that the Princess of Wales had gone in for planned surgery the day before; that she was expected to say in hospital 10-14 days; that she was not expected to take part in public engagements until after Easter. They also said she wanted to maintain as much normality for the children as possible, and asked for privacy.

On 23rd March (so just before Easter, i.e. within the time period mentioned initially) she made her personal statement saying that cancer had been found in tests after the operation, that she was having chemotherapy, and that they had taken time to break the news to the children in the most appropriate way.

Edit to add link
Kensington Palace statement

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