Questions being asked on walk abouts

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William was on a walkabout and a member of the public asked him how long he had known about Andrew.
Do you think William should have answered? If true, he could have said he knew nothing about it until recently.

I can't follow the logic here.

So, many people working for the RF knew what AMW was up to.

So everyone in the RF knew.

But the people working for the RF who knew need to protect their "careers, revenue streams, reputations..." so want it buried.
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AMW was one of a number of working royals. Do you really think that there were regular Monday-morning memos send out in which every working royal ( plus the heir and spare) got an update on.what every other working royal had been up to of nefarious note?
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I don't think William should necessarily answer BUT I want all of them to have a question like this thrown at them every single time they do their PR walkabouts.

It is the only way we the public can have a say, and before anyone says, yes I have written to my MP

And the police can lay off, as long as you are not shouting anything harmful, racist or hate speech, everyone can ask a question. Our options are pretty non existent

@Rhaidimiddimexactly! Also if so many people knew what was going on, why is it that PW is the one who has to answer for AMW? What about the protection officers, for example? They are after all trained police officers. Didn’t they suspect something dodgy was happening? My friend is a police officer and she constantly analysing people’s behaviour and looking for suspicious activity.

I don’t believe his protection officers didn’t have a clue. Why isn’t there an outcry about how his protection officers looked the other way?

There is no logic, @Rhaidimiddim

They had separate residences, offices and staff. AMW had a separate (government-appointed) role during much of the relevant time.

RF members will not have had access to security databases. They will have been given relevant security briefings for their roles.

If issues were raised, they will have been raised with senior police officers, senior courtiers, senior civil servants, cabinet ministers, the Queen and possibly Prince Charles (as he then was). There would have been no indication to raise the issue with a more junior member of the RF.

I don’t believe his protection officers didn’t have a clue. Why isn’t there an outcry about how his protection officers looked the other way?

I believe that is being looked into. It's not an either/or
There has been a lot of covering up by a lot of people

There is another issue - I have heard recently that the law previously did not require personal protection officers to report illegal activity that they came across during protection of their principal. It may have changed recently.

This did not just apply to royals, but to any VIP. The reasoning was that if the VIP was at high risk (of injury, death, kidnapping, etc) they had to be able to trust their protection officer, not try to avoid them when they were taking part in risky behaviours.

I don't know if this is an accurate description of UK law - perhaps one of our legal experts might know. @Serenster is this an area you know about?

Exactly, they should be looked into too. However obviously we don’t really know who the protection officers were but we do know the members of the royal family and therefore obviously a lot of the criticism will be aimed at them. Also, this is the RF board, not the RF protection officer board, so people will talk about RF members here.

There are a lot of people on here trying to deflect to anyone they can.

Every single walkabout by a royal should be asked when are you going to apologise for discrediting VG and calling her a liar. They all represent an institution that abused its power to blacken her name. Utterly disgusting and everyone should be asking all of them that question when will you as int he institution publicly apologise

Even if-and I think it highly unlikely-William has been in blissful ignorance of his uncle’s behaviour for most of his life, you would have thought he might have asked a few questions when he read about the out of court settlement paid to Ms Giueffre in the papers……

Perhaps William is the only person to watch the Pizza Express interview car crash and believe Andrew?

William was not a working member of the royal family when much of this took place.

And realistically, who knows what their uncle is doing in his private life? It’s not as if he would go to William and say, “I did this or that.”

As for the settlement that was paid, his uncle could easily have said he did nothing wrong but settled the case because of the late Queen’s Jubilee and to avoid further distraction.

And even if William had suspected something, what exactly could he have done? At the time, the late Queen and the Prince of Wales were effectively his bosses, and the matter would have been handled at their level.

@ThatAvidViewer- he was a 40 (ish) year old man and not stupid. Of COURSE he would have known! You’re suggesting he knew less than any member of the general public!

@ThatAvidViewer- William wasn’t asked if he knew at the time it happened, he was asked how long he has known, different issue.

There is a good question in that - have senior members of the royal family known for some time that Andrew had historically committed crimes and just sat on that information ? if so for how long? A few months? A few years?

Did William have knowledge of crimes being committed and just not bother to go to the police? Similar question should be asked of each of the senior royals, but then William is our future king so his moral compass is more important.

It might have the added benefit that they stop doing the walkabouts altogether and stay at home until required for constitutional purposes.

Hmmm.... it's not as if they are out every day so I doubt we'd really notice!

'Constitutional purposes' is exactly what I want for a proper slimmed down monarchy. Remove titles, Charles/William sign the necessary papers and slim down the dosh and the massive amount of royal estates and buildings

Advice to young people-find someone who looks at you the way a Mumsnet Royalist looks at a member of the RF……

And why, if they told the Grown-ups, why did the Grown-ups not deal with it at that point? Instead they allowed a situation in which every member of that family can be smeared with a baseless they-all-knew-about-it accusation. Especially PW, who does know about AMW now, but had no power then, and not as much as he'd like now, to remedy a situation not of his making.

There is a good question in that - have senior members of the royal family known for some time that Andrew had historically committed crimes and just sat on that information ? if so for how long? A few months? A few years?
Did William have knowledge of crimes being committed and just not bother to go to the police? Similar question should be asked of each of the senior royals, but then William is our future king so his moral compass is more important.

One of my worries about the current legal case is the possibility that AMW's lawyers could argue that he has no chance of a fair trial.

Of course he knew about the accusations. But he wasn’t there and wasn’t close to his uncle, so how could he possibly know what was really happening in his private life? The full extent only became clear with the release of those files. And he wasn’t—and still isn’t—the boss; those decisions were made by the late Queen and then the Prince of Wales.

@ThatAvidViewerI agree. I read that Channel 5 are broadcasting a programme tonight about lip reading royal conversations. They include the interaction between W and A at the recent funeral. A asks W how he is and apparently W answers ‘what can I do for you?’, which is a very abrupt way to answer. A then asks if W can forgive him. It makes me think W saw very little of A and A was using a rare opportunity to get in W’s good books. IMO, if the lip readers are correct, they were not close and also, I believe, that A had realised W will be in charge in the near future and he better be on his right side. W’s demeanour suggested he clearly wasn’t.

There would have been no indication to raise the issue with a more junior member of the RF.

W was given kinging lessons with E2 as a schoolboy.

It's beyond credible to think he wasn't party to ever increasing information about serious reputational issues as a lineally senior adult within an aging hereditary dynasty.

I love that people are asking them questions. Long may it continue.

How else are the public able to ask a question of the royal family?

Every single one of them should be asked...when will the RF publicly apologise for calling VG a liar. How anyone can support them and the institution after that I really don't know.

And William will be in the know, he has been in training most of his life, he was part of the Sandringham summit to discuss H&M alongside Charles and the Queen, he will have been in other meetings too.

This.