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Harry and Meghan on another pretendy royal tour

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ParrotsAndLions · 25/02/2026 12:32

This time to Jordan. What do they bring to it, exactly? What is their role? To bring attention to the issue of Syrian refugees? Jordan is dealing with them fine.

What are they there for? In what capacity?

Meghan holds hands with 14-year-old Gaza refugee burn victim as she and Harry embark on quasi-royal tour of Middle East | Daily Mail Online

Harry and Meghan land in Jordan as they begin two-day visit

Prince Harry and Meghan today began a busy two-day visit to Jordan - one of Prince William and Kate's favourite countries - as they met people working with refugees.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15590533/Harry-Meghan-Jordan-visit-people-forced-homes-war.html

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Rhaidimiddim · 28/02/2026 16:44

My2cents1975 · 28/02/2026 14:01

It all boils down to KC3 enabling his darling boy.

BP has failed to give the appropriate guidance to the WHO, Foreign Office and other multi-lateral agencies that H&M are effectively persona-non-grata. If that guidance had been provided, the head of the WHO would not have taken H&M as his plus two to a UK ambassador's event. And the UK ambassador could have communicated this information prior to the event when the initial scheduling was done as the guest list would be known for security reasons.

By platforming H&M at UK embassy events and featuring H&M on the website, BP has created a status ambiguity that H&M are quite happily exploiting, as they have consistently done since temper-tantruming off to California.

We can see the contrast in Jordan where the Jordanian royal family provided guidance to WHO and the head of WHO excluded H&M from the meeting with the Jordanian King.

The buck stops with KC3. It is his monarchy and he needs to do the needful for the UK as he swore to do in his coronation oath.

I agree entirely. KC3 can't stop them from going where they want to go, but it is clearer than ever that they are loose canon and capable of doing much damage at a diplomatic level.

KC3 and the grey suits need to do what they can, both behind the scenes quietly and in public actions, to control this situation.

If the Head of State doesn't have enough pull and power to make it clear to friendly nations at least that you don't give this pair the Royal Tour treatment and we'll be bl@@dy p1ssed off if you do, then what use is he?

ShamedBySiri · 28/02/2026 16:45

I suspect that one of the difficulties may be that the current government has always been relatively supportive of the Sussexes - seeing them as the 'young, modern' alternative that they were promoting themselves as.

The current government are loving the AMW situation as he is the gift that keeps giving for the "Look over there" strategy. As for H&M I think they are a great gift to the republican cause as well as a bit of "Look over there" so that is the reason the government are relatively kindly disposed towards them.

Guest385 · 28/02/2026 16:59

notimagain · 28/02/2026 14:31

I don't think KC3 is personally responsible but @My2cents1975 makes a valid point.

Somebody in the Diplomatic side of things in London should have seen the potential for this turning into a complete diplomatic mess. It's possible the FCO only knew the pair were on Jordan Tues AM but even so they should have been able to give some guidance to the resident diplomatic staff.

I'd still love to know if the Ambassador knew in advance if H&M were going to visit in the evening as part of the group or if he was stitched up by the WHO leadership.....

I wonder if somebody somewhere is perhaps draughting a standing instruction to Embassies and Ambassadors on what to do if H&M turn up in town at very short notice...maybe "lock the doors"???

i can’t imagine H&M rocking up to the British Embassy in Jordan and going “surprise, guess who” of course the embassy staff knew in advance.

this +1 defence of someone famous turning up uninvited seems a popular excuse. Wasn’t this Hillary C explanation as why GM was at Chelsea’s wedding!

notimagain · 28/02/2026 17:28

Guest385 · 28/02/2026 16:59

i can’t imagine H&M rocking up to the British Embassy in Jordan and going “surprise, guess who” of course the embassy staff knew in advance.

this +1 defence of someone famous turning up uninvited seems a popular excuse. Wasn’t this Hillary C explanation as why GM was at Chelsea’s wedding!

You may be right but I've been to at least one, I'll admit lowish level embassy function as part of a group and no, a detailed list of names wasn't provided for the embassy before hand. we were listed as a group of xx people from yyy. IDs were checked/examined at the gate and the usual security rigmarole with scanners...

Now that was quite some time ago and things will have changed but personally I'd not be completely writing off the possibility, however slim, that the Embassy didn't get much warning.

Longshinyhair · 28/02/2026 18:11

My2cents1975 · 28/02/2026 14:01

It all boils down to KC3 enabling his darling boy.

BP has failed to give the appropriate guidance to the WHO, Foreign Office and other multi-lateral agencies that H&M are effectively persona-non-grata. If that guidance had been provided, the head of the WHO would not have taken H&M as his plus two to a UK ambassador's event. And the UK ambassador could have communicated this information prior to the event when the initial scheduling was done as the guest list would be known for security reasons.

By platforming H&M at UK embassy events and featuring H&M on the website, BP has created a status ambiguity that H&M are quite happily exploiting, as they have consistently done since temper-tantruming off to California.

We can see the contrast in Jordan where the Jordanian royal family provided guidance to WHO and the head of WHO excluded H&M from the meeting with the Jordanian King.

The buck stops with KC3. It is his monarchy and he needs to do the needful for the UK as he swore to do in his coronation oath.

Absolutely agree, I said much the same myself, all this could have been avoided, Charles and the Palace bear responsibility for all this.

JSMill · 28/02/2026 18:35

@notimagainI have also attended a reception at a British embassy in the Middle East and that was my experience as well. I also wondered about the number of places set for the meal! Did they have to rush and set two extra places?! IME, iftar invitations are almost always buffet style but I guess the embassy would do it British style.

corblimeyguvnr · 28/02/2026 20:04

Butteredtoast55 · 28/02/2026 14:56

@notimagain that's actually a good point. I honestly think any attempt to dissuade them from this kind of stunt/activity would be pointless and further 'evidence' of the RF being unsupportive, jealous or threatened by them or of the 'establishment' having it in for them. They will not be advised or guided because they know best. I'm sure various governments really are wondering how they handle a surprise visit from H and M.

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Yes they have this tendency to turn up at the invitation of some lesser official. That's how desperate they are.

CathyorClaire · 28/02/2026 21:05

TheAutumnCrow · 28/02/2026 12:25

I hope Invictus finally slings him out.

I hope Invictus expenses get investigated.

CathyorClaire · 28/02/2026 21:27

The buck stops with KC3. It is his monarchy and he needs to do the needful for the UK as he swore to do in his coronation oath.

We've already seen he's incapable of doing the timely needful when it comes to closely related royal bad actors (MW).

Darling boy of the royal loins is exceedingly unlikely to fare worse.

Cathandkin · 28/02/2026 23:37

What a shame that people are mocking a father calling his son "darling boy".
😥

Beechtrees19 · 01/03/2026 23:10

Cathandkin · 28/02/2026 23:37

What a shame that people are mocking a father calling his son "darling boy".
😥

We saw what happened with the Queens darling boy didn’t we? If their errant stupid children are a threat to national security, an embarrassment to the government and morally questionable, they shouldn’t have titles or be trying to represent Britain. Harry is blurring the lines with his use of his Prince title whilst he’s conducting visits abroad as a private citizen.

Jbum · 02/03/2026 01:41

Beechtrees19 · 01/03/2026 23:10

We saw what happened with the Queens darling boy didn’t we? If their errant stupid children are a threat to national security, an embarrassment to the government and morally questionable, they shouldn’t have titles or be trying to represent Britain. Harry is blurring the lines with his use of his Prince title whilst he’s conducting visits abroad as a private citizen.

If their errant stupid children are a threat to national security, an embarrassment to the government and morally questionable

We can apply this to pretty much most of the RF to be fair. Especially the morally questionable bit.

corblimeyguvnr · 02/03/2026 12:01

Was expecting to see Meghan at the LA 32nd Actor Award show seeing as she is such an accomplished actress.

BoudiccaRuled · 02/03/2026 12:16

notimagain · 28/02/2026 17:28

You may be right but I've been to at least one, I'll admit lowish level embassy function as part of a group and no, a detailed list of names wasn't provided for the embassy before hand. we were listed as a group of xx people from yyy. IDs were checked/examined at the gate and the usual security rigmarole with scanners...

Now that was quite some time ago and things will have changed but personally I'd not be completely writing off the possibility, however slim, that the Embassy didn't get much warning.

Things have changed A LOT, especially in Muslim countries in the Middle East.

TheAutumnCrow · 03/03/2026 10:50

In an act of unrelentingly depressing karmic irony, a couple of days after H&M left Jordan, the US and Israel attacked Iran and Israel did immediately close the aid corridors into Gaza, according to the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/02/iran-attacks-gaza-under-siege

The Kerem Shalom crossing may open this afternoon, and I don’t know what’s happening at Rafah.

I can’t find any further opinion from Global Harry since his Channel 4 interview.

‘We’ll run out of food this week’: Israel’s Iran war brings new Gaza siege

Israel has closed all crossings into Gaza, threatening to plunge 2 million people into a new hunger crisis

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/02/iran-attacks-gaza-under-siege

bluegreygreen · 03/03/2026 12:31

Interesting.

The article I read (which wasn't the Guardian) said that the aid corridors were still open but all other traffic had been stopped. Unfortunately I read it yesterday or the day before and can't remember where, so will understand if you ignore.

elessar · 03/03/2026 12:41

TheAutumnCrow · 03/03/2026 10:50

In an act of unrelentingly depressing karmic irony, a couple of days after H&M left Jordan, the US and Israel attacked Iran and Israel did immediately close the aid corridors into Gaza, according to the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/02/iran-attacks-gaza-under-siege

The Kerem Shalom crossing may open this afternoon, and I don’t know what’s happening at Rafah.

I can’t find any further opinion from Global Harry since his Channel 4 interview.

God they make me sick. Any excuse to punish and starve the Palestinian people and they just can’t wait to take it.

let’s see if Harry and Meghan make another comment about this - or could it be that now they’re back in sunny California they couldn’t give a damn?!

SimplyT · 03/03/2026 14:43

They only appear to ‘give a damn’ when it brings them a few People Magazine columns inches,

Beechtrees19 · 03/03/2026 20:02

This is why they need their titles taken away.

BasiliskStare · 03/03/2026 20:04

My2cents1975 · 28/02/2026 14:54

IMHO, the issue is that by attending the event, H's misrepresentation of his diplomatic importance was enabled by the UK, and the UK accrues negative publicity as a result and faces an additional, unnecessary, diplomatic minefield in an already volatile region.

H's agency could not enable him to attend a UK embassy event if the Head of State had advised all ambassadors worldwide that H is effectively persona-non-grata.

The UK ambassador should not have been presented a diplomatic quandary by his own Head of State due to H's status ambiguity. If H was PNG the minute Ted from WHO submitted his guest list for security, the issue would have been flagged, and a quiet no would have been communicated. And all embassies have security, especially in the Middle East. No embassy is hosting an event with surprise guests.

H can do all the media he wants. It is KC3's job to make sure his Foreign Office is kept out of H's hot mess.

I do agree with this.

KC should be making it plain and simple that anything to which H&M are invited are

  1. invitations to 2 private citizens (nothing to do with WRF or HMG)
  2. I think he and HMG should be telling all ambassadors the same - they are not to be treated as even quasi royal - just to make the point stick.

I think H&M have gone too far . If an Israeli minister is commenting on them , they are over their heads. I suspect H can't let go of his royal royalling about status and M wants that royalling being feted status. But it needs to stop. I don't think even his mother would have claimed H has the brains he was born with & the RF aren't there to give M her global philanthropist ambitions.

Now , if someone invites them to something - fine. But I do think any shred of that being anything to do with the WRF / Commonwealth / HMG needs to be soundly knocked on the head at source. And if that means H being stripped of his title - I'm for that. Prince about in California if you want to H but not on a world stage where you might be confused as someone who has something to say on behalf of WRF / HMG.

Beechtrees19 · 03/03/2026 20:08

BasiliskStare · 03/03/2026 20:04

I do agree with this.

KC should be making it plain and simple that anything to which H&M are invited are

  1. invitations to 2 private citizens (nothing to do with WRF or HMG)
  2. I think he and HMG should be telling all ambassadors the same - they are not to be treated as even quasi royal - just to make the point stick.

I think H&M have gone too far . If an Israeli minister is commenting on them , they are over their heads. I suspect H can't let go of his royal royalling about status and M wants that royalling being feted status. But it needs to stop. I don't think even his mother would have claimed H has the brains he was born with & the RF aren't there to give M her global philanthropist ambitions.

Now , if someone invites them to something - fine. But I do think any shred of that being anything to do with the WRF / Commonwealth / HMG needs to be soundly knocked on the head at source. And if that means H being stripped of his title - I'm for that. Prince about in California if you want to H but not on a world stage where you might be confused as someone who has something to say on behalf of WRF / HMG.

Harry’s too thick to understand any of this.

NewAgeNewMe · 03/03/2026 20:14

Beechtrees19 · 03/03/2026 20:02

This is why they need their titles taken away.

Titles for all non working royals and heir imo need to all go.

LoughNaFoo · 03/03/2026 20:23

SimplyT · 03/03/2026 14:43

They only appear to ‘give a damn’ when it brings them a few People Magazine columns inches,

Exactly. Always self serving. The coverage they strong armed in to People Magazine was totally focused on defending their status about who had and who hadn’t invited them for events ….. they didn’t take the opportunity to send one message or call to action in this piece to raise the plight of the refugees.

CathyorClaire · 03/03/2026 21:32

Prince about in California if you want to H but not on a world stage where you might be confused as someone who has something to say on behalf of WRF / HMG.

I think the Harolds have been firmly disconnected from any UK official recognisance for a while.

More a case of 'buyer, beware'.

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