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Is ANDREW really Prince Phillips son.

354 replies

roadtowhoknowswhere · 19/02/2026 19:27

I have thought of this for a while.
Charles, Anne and Edward have longer faces while Andrew has more of a roundish face.
Pity an DNA test can't be done.
Rumours used to go round that one of the queen's race horse trainers might be his father.

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Holidaymodeon · 20/02/2026 08:16

TightlyLacedCorset · 20/02/2026 07:08

It's been alluded to by Andrew Lownie, and while I dislike him and previously thought his claims in regards to the Royal Family were outlandish, they have proved, if anything, to be conservative in regards to AMW and Fergie and he has been vindicated in regards to those two, so I believe rumours of Phillips' sexual indiscretions have merit. Add to that the various rumours over the years, plus his will was sealed wasn't it?

Adultery isn't looked upon as a moral failing in high society in the same way it is at the lower end of the social strata. Having a lover or a mistress isn't necessarily seen as divorce worthy. Affairs are common. You just behave discreetly. Not being discreet is the greater sin. Many aristocratic marriages through the centuries have been effectively open marriages, but cloaked in outward proprietary.

Consider that there was never going to be any contemplation of divorce between QE2 and Prince Phillip, no matter what. That is carte blanche for doing what you want and getting away with it. It's plausible that during a period of strain due to Phillips errant eye (I'm merely speculating, I don't know what is true) the Queen turned to someone else for comfort and there was never any questions of Philip not accepting any results of that. He had his affairs and she had her secret.

If the late Queen did have a rendezvous and birth a child, then my personal view is (giant shrug) what of it? It doesn't reflect badly on her at all in my book. I have always found it odd that Britain has had both Kings and ruling Queens and the Kings could be having multiple sexual liaisons and sire bastards left and right both whilst married and not and yet Britain's Queen's have had to be sexual puritans. Queen Victoria very obviously enjoyed sex, but that expression still had to be strictly within the confines of her marriage, unlike her male uncles and cousins.

If their Queenship was truly equal to Kingship I see no reason why they couldn't shag who they wanted, if anything you know for sure any children birthed are legitimately Royal. Can never understand why Elizabeth the first had to be the eternal virgin. Clearly women had to abide by different rules even whilst holding equal sovereign power, which I find ridiculous.

So I would not rule out QE2 having something secret for herself, no. All that duty and effectively not belonging to oneself but belonging to society and being a living breathing symbol of a nation has got to be very tough on the psyche.

treason! Traitor! Off with your head!

SandyY2K · 20/02/2026 08:18

Hatty65 · 19/02/2026 19:32

The Queen was reportedly devoted to Phillip, particularly when they were young. Added to which she was someone who put 'duty' above everything her entire life. I cannot imagine anyone less likely than her to be unfaithful, particularly in days before reliable contraception.

It's a ridiculous supposition.

I have to agree with you.
Crazy speculation.

Everlore · 20/02/2026 08:28

"New Royal Revelation As it is revealed that Andrew must be illegitimate has he does not look exactly like his siblings"
Well that's tomorrow's headline sorted. No need to fact-check, since a random MN poster says it it is surely true.
Discovering that all siblings usually look exactly alike and if they don't this must call their parentage into question will come as a terrible shock to a lot of people, pretty much anyone who isn't an identical twin in fact.
Seriously though, I think the OP and other posters on this thread may want to do a little basic research into how genetics actually operate, it's a fascinating and complex matter. It is not as simple as children looking like some weird hybrid carbon copy of their parents.

MillyTheale · 20/02/2026 08:31

Everlore · 20/02/2026 08:28

"New Royal Revelation As it is revealed that Andrew must be illegitimate has he does not look exactly like his siblings"
Well that's tomorrow's headline sorted. No need to fact-check, since a random MN poster says it it is surely true.
Discovering that all siblings usually look exactly alike and if they don't this must call their parentage into question will come as a terrible shock to a lot of people, pretty much anyone who isn't an identical twin in fact.
Seriously though, I think the OP and other posters on this thread may want to do a little basic research into how genetics actually operate, it's a fascinating and complex matter. It is not as simple as children looking like some weird hybrid carbon copy of their parents.

I think some pro-monarchy types don’t like the idea of the ‘sacred bloodline’ being tainted.

Everlore · 20/02/2026 08:43

MillyTheale · 20/02/2026 08:31

I think some pro-monarchy types don’t like the idea of the ‘sacred bloodline’ being tainted.

I could not be less interested in the purity of the Windsor bloodline.
I am, however, interested in scientific accuracy, a concept which is woefully lacking on this thread which is why I felt moved to post to try and counteract some of the ridiculous misinformation about heredity being peddled on here. I would have hoped I would not have to explain to adult posters on MN that children born to the same parents will not all look the same, unless, of course, they are identical twins, but, here I am anyway.

Calliopespa · 20/02/2026 08:54

Daygloboo · 20/02/2026 01:33

Beatrice looks like Philip? Are you serious ?

Beatrice has the softer, less severe features from her mother's side.

suburburban · 20/02/2026 08:58

He doesn’t look unlike George V or Prince Leopald? Victoria’s son or even her imo

ThatCyanCat · 20/02/2026 08:58

Beatrice looks like Queen Victoria. Eugenie looks more like her dad. You can see the resemblance better in his younger pics. Andrew and Edward had a definite resemblance to each other as young men.

Hockorydickerydock · 20/02/2026 08:58

Yes he is like Harry is Charles son

BertSymptom · 20/02/2026 09:34

I remember years ago watching something like a jubilee or a royal wedding on tele and noticing Andrew was the only male member of the royal family with a full head of hair. He stood out like a sore thumb next to Philip, Charles, Edward, William and even Harry whose hair was obviously thinning by this point.

Stumbled into the Porchester rumours online and whilst I’m not convinced myself it’s an interesting theory. Must say I think these sort of rumours are the least of the royals problems at the moment!

JustAnotherWhinger · 20/02/2026 09:55

BertSymptom · 20/02/2026 09:34

I remember years ago watching something like a jubilee or a royal wedding on tele and noticing Andrew was the only male member of the royal family with a full head of hair. He stood out like a sore thumb next to Philip, Charles, Edward, William and even Harry whose hair was obviously thinning by this point.

Stumbled into the Porchester rumours online and whilst I’m not convinced myself it’s an interesting theory. Must say I think these sort of rumours are the least of the royals problems at the moment!

The Queen’s father, George VI, had a full head of hair until he died, as did her grandfather George V. With three sons there was always the chance at least one of them was going to take after the mother’s side hair wise.

Calliopespa · 20/02/2026 10:09

BertSymptom · 20/02/2026 09:34

I remember years ago watching something like a jubilee or a royal wedding on tele and noticing Andrew was the only male member of the royal family with a full head of hair. He stood out like a sore thumb next to Philip, Charles, Edward, William and even Harry whose hair was obviously thinning by this point.

Stumbled into the Porchester rumours online and whilst I’m not convinced myself it’s an interesting theory. Must say I think these sort of rumours are the least of the royals problems at the moment!

Exactly. It's not as if he will end up on the throne now so who really cares ... If it is true (and I'm not convinced) if Phillip could get on with life, perhaps we should.

MillyTheale · 20/02/2026 10:11

Everlore · 20/02/2026 08:43

I could not be less interested in the purity of the Windsor bloodline.
I am, however, interested in scientific accuracy, a concept which is woefully lacking on this thread which is why I felt moved to post to try and counteract some of the ridiculous misinformation about heredity being peddled on here. I would have hoped I would not have to explain to adult posters on MN that children born to the same parents will not all look the same, unless, of course, they are identical twins, but, here I am anyway.

Well. I agree with you. And of course resemblance is so subjective, anyway. I have relatives swearing I’m the spitting image of my mother, and others saying I closely resemble my father. DH’s family think DS is exactly like his father. Structurally that is true, but he gets his fair hair and colouring from me, and his facial expressions remind me strongly of myself in childhood.

ThisOldThang · 20/02/2026 10:15

CloakedInGucci · 19/02/2026 19:39

I agree.

She’d have known any affair would come with the risk of having a boy who’d be second in line to the throne. Her uncle abdicated over something arguably less scandalous.

But all the queen's children are her children, so it's irrelevant who the father is in terms of succession.

Calliopespa · 20/02/2026 10:25

ThisOldThang · 20/02/2026 10:15

But all the queen's children are her children, so it's irrelevant who the father is in terms of succession.

I think, at least historically, legitimacy still mattered. The queen changed things so that Charlotte would not rank below her siblings, but I'm not sure there has been any such tweak in favour of illegitimate children. In this case it is less of an issue as the monarch is female, so knows she birthed the child; but male monarchs were very open to having responsibility attributed so, at least historically, and pre DNA testing, illegitimacy mattered in royal family trees. I am not aware that that has been altered - though happy to stand corrected. Anyway, now Andrew will never be King, his daughters very unlikely to rule, so it is a total non-issue really. I think Louis looks very like Andrew as a child so there are definite likenesses within the pool.

hedgheog · 20/02/2026 10:31

No wonder this country is in trouble when this is what you are worrying over.

HerosUncle · 20/02/2026 10:41

roadtowhoknowswhere · 19/02/2026 19:27

I have thought of this for a while.
Charles, Anne and Edward have longer faces while Andrew has more of a roundish face.
Pity an DNA test can't be done.
Rumours used to go round that one of the queen's race horse trainers might be his father.

Conspiracy theory, it's a story. Do you also think Di was killed off too 🤔🙄🙄🙄

JustAnotherWhinger · 20/02/2026 11:15

ThisOldThang · 20/02/2026 10:15

But all the queen's children are her children, so it's irrelevant who the father is in terms of succession.

Technically it does matter. The children still have to be born in the marriage to their father to be in the line. That doesn’t change for a female - if she had an illegitimate child they wouldn’t be in line any more than the illegitimate children of previous male monarchs.

JustAnotherWhinger · 20/02/2026 11:18

Calliopespa · 20/02/2026 10:25

I think, at least historically, legitimacy still mattered. The queen changed things so that Charlotte would not rank below her siblings, but I'm not sure there has been any such tweak in favour of illegitimate children. In this case it is less of an issue as the monarch is female, so knows she birthed the child; but male monarchs were very open to having responsibility attributed so, at least historically, and pre DNA testing, illegitimacy mattered in royal family trees. I am not aware that that has been altered - though happy to stand corrected. Anyway, now Andrew will never be King, his daughters very unlikely to rule, so it is a total non-issue really. I think Louis looks very like Andrew as a child so there are definite likenesses within the pool.

It hasn’t been changed. The children still have to be born in a marriage - and in the case of the first 5 or 6 in line to the throne in a marriage approved by the monarch (or through another process if the monarch doesn’t approve).

RainbowBagels · 20/02/2026 11:23

PithyViewer · 20/02/2026 02:08

I absolutely do not believe any of that about Phillip. He was an upstanding man. Besides, all of that would have come out of the woodwork by now if any of it was vaguely true.

He said the same thing. Maybe he should have asked either of his sons how to get away with shagging women while his RPOs turned a blind eye. It has all come out of the woodwork. It's more or less an open secret.

KnickerlessParsons · 20/02/2026 11:33

Ifyouknowyouknowyouknow · 19/02/2026 20:57

It is a bit weird that there is such a big age gap between Princess Anne and Andrew (10 years). I always assumed he was someone else’s child and then the Queen and Philip had Edward as a bandaid baby.

She'd become a young queen between having Charles and Anne, and Andrew and Edward. I'm not surprised she didn't want any more children whilst getting to grips with being the monarch.

Calliopespa · 20/02/2026 11:36

JustAnotherWhinger · 20/02/2026 11:18

It hasn’t been changed. The children still have to be born in a marriage - and in the case of the first 5 or 6 in line to the throne in a marriage approved by the monarch (or through another process if the monarch doesn’t approve).

Yes, that fits with my understanding.

HelenaWaiting · 20/02/2026 12:20

Everlore · 20/02/2026 08:43

I could not be less interested in the purity of the Windsor bloodline.
I am, however, interested in scientific accuracy, a concept which is woefully lacking on this thread which is why I felt moved to post to try and counteract some of the ridiculous misinformation about heredity being peddled on here. I would have hoped I would not have to explain to adult posters on MN that children born to the same parents will not all look the same, unless, of course, they are identical twins, but, here I am anyway.

I'm sure your points are very interesting but I'm to busy laughing that you came to a Royal gossip thread looking for scientific accuracy. 🤣

Allseeingallknowing · 20/02/2026 13:21

Sandysandytoes · 20/02/2026 07:52

Louis looks very like Andrew imo, rather a curse for him especially as the press are already creating a narrative about him being the ‘cheeky’ one.

Louis looks like Kate’s dad

twilightcafe · 20/02/2026 13:23

Mollimayy · 19/02/2026 21:42

i always thought he was rather handsome compared to the other royals. Even now he has a somewhat pleasant face I guess looks can be deceiving !

Andrew was pleasant looking (in a toothy kind of way). But whatever good looks the Windsor men have tends to disappear early (see Prince William).