King Charles treatment of AMW vs PH

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Does anyone find the contrast really unsettling?

People can say it was wrong of PH to speak about the family etc BUT we cannot say that without also recognizing that KC did exactly the same thing - wrote a book, did the Dimbleby interview etc. In his case though, the late Queen did not cut him off, kick him out of his house etc. Perhaps because he was the heir and perhaps behind the scenes?

No matter what anyone thinks of the rights or wrongs of PH actions, they are not even a shade of grey to AMW.

Revelation after revelation strongly suggests that the family have known all along what they are dealing with.

It is probably why that high profile crisis manager was hired - it suggests they knew what was coming (how did they know?).

For me, this whole debacle highlights that there is real moral paucity in that family and I do wonder why we are stuck with them as our heads of state.

Rehabilitation was all a go.

Honestly the more that comes out about Prince Andrew the more I feel sorry for Prince Harry which I never thought I would.

I don't think the constant moaning interviews, the netflix documentary and book were wise moves but he hasn't been accused of sexual assault, been friends with a known sex offender and now arrested for misconduct in a public office. And before this, it was hard to know what Andrew actually did. Yes with Harry some of the accusations are justified of him being a grifter but his work with the Invictus games and Well child has been well documented and he donated £1 million of his own personal money to a children's charity.

There's been loads of posts on here about how the Queen HAD to support son, how Charles HAD to support his brother as they are family yet this logic never seems applied to Harry. I find it bewildering that even after all the allegations came out and his known friendship with Epstein, Charles still paid for Andrews security (up until 2025 if I'm correct), allowed him to live rent free at Royal Lodge and still gave him an allowance. Even now he's still being allowed to live in a house with staff and security on his brothers private estate. Yet Harry had everything taken away from him and by all accounts his own father won't even speak to him.

I think a quote from Harry in his own book is quite telling

"Despite being involved in an embarrassing scandal, accused of having sexually abused a young woman, nobody had suggested removing his security. People may have a lot of grievances towards us, but sexual offences weren't one of them,” Harry wrote regarding Prince Andrew.

PH wanted to be a part time royal and you are either in or out, he was kicked out for breach of contract. He then threw a tantrum, wrote a book about the hard life he has had and blurted it all out on Netflix with some false truths. Nothing more than the usual family spats tbh. KC probably did him & Meghan a favour, in the long run, and once they find their own way of making money, and get over their bruised egos, they should be much happier.

AMW was always a known issue and they now have the evidence they need to isolate him from the HRH brand. The queen is no longer there to protect him and he has clearly breached all boundaries of decency and the result has been kicked out for being a disgusting human being.

Looking back, him and Fergie living together but separately, with no one else on the horizon, it did look a bit dodgy for years.

The difference is Andrew lives in the UK on a Crown estate. Harry lives in another country in a private residence.

You know H isn't. RAVEC are discusding the matter, but H is not " in court" nor is he "fighting for the right to pay" - that has never been an option.

The fact remains that Charles continues to take care of Andrew while Harry’s security was snatched immediately. In fact, I’m beginning to see a stunning pattern of Charles’ duty of care towards paedos.

Peter Ball, anyone?

Charles later arranged for the Duchy of Cornwall to buy a house to be rented by Ball and his identical twin, Michael, also a bishop.

Friendship with Prince Charles made paedophile bishop Peter Ball 'impregnable'

The Sussexes were kicked out of Frogmore, which sits empty to this day.

Bloody hell I've known my brother far longer than I've known my children. No one on the planet would expect me to treat my brother better than my children though on the basis of 'Ive known him longer!'

PH wanted to be a part time royal and you are either in or out, he was kicked out for breach of contract.
That's not true though. They all do it. All the cousins make money from being Royal adjacent. There was nothing stopping the RF from saying 'OK fine, you are on the same level as all your cousins'. Now it looks like they see the 'crime' of moaning about your family is worse than parading trafficked women around Buckingham Palace, using taxpayers money to fund sex trips to Thailand and espionage. Serves them right really. They were more worried about what people would say than they were about doing the right thing and it has come to bite them all on the bum.

Rumours are that the bullying investigation showed bullying by other members of the family too ( probably Andrew which was known about for years) which was why it wasnt released

All those issues just highlight though that while Harry was in the RF he was above the law too. I doubt they are going to bother with the 'But Harry' distractions, as all it shows is that the RF used RPO's to get away with criminal behaviour, and it wasnt just Andrew. Once you move from 'One bad apple to 'Actually maybe its 2...' them how many more are you covering up? Why did the MET tell its RPO's to 'shut up'? Why did they threaten to put them on traffic duty if they complained? Were they making those decisions unilaterally or did it come from the Palace? If they start looking higher up in the command as to who was giving those instructions, it will start looking very dodgy for some senior courtiers, I would think.
Now the press are demanding more transparency they are not going to be distracted. There is potentially 70 years worth of stories on that one. Its like a goldmine for them. Even their mouthpiece the DM can smell blood on that one. All the Royal Rota sycophants all look like useful idiots too, so they will be more reluctant to push themselves so far up the Royal fundament at the expense of their own reputation and careers.

Harry’s security wasn’t snatched immediately. There are fundamental issues with providing Met protection for someone that lives abroad - both legally and financially. If Harry had stayed in the UK he would have continued to get it.

Americans are not paying for Harry's security. He can move to a state with weak gun laws, pack a Glock, and wear Kevlar.

I wouldn’t be surprised. I recall a couple of articles in the DM citing former staffers who would have loved an investigation into Andrew. Funny how that never happened.

Who’s asking for Americans to pay for Harry. I’m talking about security for when Harry visits the UK.

He wants IPP status. He already gets security in the UK. He just needs to give 28 days notice.

Well, quite.

This takes me back. There are plenty of other news sources from the time. Hundreds.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/controversial-claim-quietly-deleted-from-sussex-website/LOC3MXF54UBUTXKBQMAV5TIXHQ/

Controversial claim quietly deleted from Sussex website

He gets security when he visits the UK - he just needs to give 28 days notice.

If he took up the offers of staying with his Father or in one of the Palace's he would get 24/7 armed protection. He refused and stays in a hotel.

Edit to stay he wants IPP status which would mean US taxpayers would have to pay for his security.

H&M seem to have dropped the ‘Royal Tour’ circus attempts in their pursuit for relevance.

Mind-blowing really how up until very recently AMW who has been involved with alleged sexual abuse of vulnerable women, alleged financial corruption. and potential malfeasance in public office, could hop about wherever and seemingly whenever he liked on aeroplanes. without giving much notice at all, and either the tax payer, or his brother, would happily fund his security.

And all of the records are mysteriously missing of course! And again until recently, his previous PPOs have been reminded not to speak up,

And yet Harry, who just wants to be able to return to his home country, maybe with small children, to see his friends and family, has to give 28 days notice!

Rather bizarre imho.

I don’t get how people even think the Sussex’s should get what the Yorks had, (and what has been removed from the Yorks for several years now).

If there are no lessons learned from abuse of tax payer funding and abuse of position for the priveledged few, then might as well let The Yorks carry on so the overseas non working royals, the Sussex’s, can benefit from the same unearned privileges as the Yorks.

Apparently there were discussions to give Harry the Governor General of Canada role to appease him, it was only stopped because the role can only be given to a Canadian born. He and Meghan would have been given a role they didn’t deserve, didn’t have the skills for, so not any different to Andrew being given a role he didn’t deserve.

It’s the most ridiculous argument ever, and it usually those who want rid of the RF who bring up that bizarre comparison.

And don’t forget Harry is aligned with

1. African Parks, accused of horrendous crimes
2. Sentebale, where Harry is accused of abuse of position and bullying
3. Invictus, strong rumours of misuse of expenses for his personal gain (yet to be exposed).
4. Oligarchs, accepting favours from Russian Oligarchs (free accommodation in Vancouver and rumoured purchase of current home under value from Russian trust fund).
5. Accepting free accommodation, use of private jet, security from a billionaire stranger with unsavory accusations against him.
6. accepting (or soliciting) trips and hospitality from very unsavory regimes and governments
7. lots of recent billionaire ‘friends’ offering homes, jets, holidays etc.

It all looks very distasteful and reminiscent of the Royal privilege the Yorks have been abusing for years and which, rightfully, is causing outrage, yet some posters are upset Harry isn’t getting a piece of Andrew’s pie.

When you see it written down like that, you wonder if curtseying wasn’t the only lesson being given by SF. 🤷‍♀️

This is entirely deranged lol made up bs

@Driftingnotfloating9

Many years ago I worked for one of the car leasing company's who looked after the royal fleet and other celebrities and sports stars who got Jaguars or Land Rovers (although not in the team looking after the royal fleet).

They most certainly didn't pay full price, but the cars were leased not bought.

They could have basically any car in the JLR range with any option and the rental was the same. Basically the lowest it could legally be. And if I recall it included insurance.

Not sure what the deal is now though.

You wish !!! The truth is hard to hear..\