Should Prince Harry get state funded security ?

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Okay, why does he want State funded security. Let’s speaks with cited facts only… and not emotion.

Prince Harry has stated clearly and in writing that he will pay for the security out of pocket.

Sources:

-Reuters-

Reuters confirmed Harry’s offer and the government’s refusal:

“Prince Harry said he had offered to personally pay for police protection for himself and his family during visits to Britain, but the UK government rejected the offer.”

-BBC-

The BBC reported that Harry’s legal team argued the refusal was procedural, not security-based:

“The Duke of Sussex offered to fund the security himself, but this was rejected because police protection cannot be paid for privately.”

-The Guardian-

The Guardian adds context that this was raised during court proceedings, not after the fact:

“Prince Harry’s lawyers said he was willing to pay for protection but was blocked by policy, not assessed threat.”

Okay so if he’s willing to pay out of pocket why won’t his own security work?

Heres why:

When Prince Harry stepped back from royal duties, the UK government… via the Home Office… removed his automatic, state-funded police protection.

That decision was made by a committee called RAVEC (Royal and VIP Executive Committee), which assesses security risk.

Harry’s argument is:

“My role changed, but my threat level didn’t.”

And on that point, he’s not wrong.

Okay, so where’s what he’s actually asking for:

He has been very explicit that he is willing to pay for security.

What the UK government refuses to allow is:

Access to armed, intelligence-briefed Metropolitan Police protection
Even on a paid basis

So why does this matter?

Private security cannot legally carry firearms in the UK
Private guards do not receive intelligence briefings
They cannot coordinate with UK counterterror or local police in real time

So this is not about luxury, it’s about safety.

Okay now. Why does harry believe there’s still a risk?:

There are several concrete factors:

He is still one of the most globally recognized people alive
His mother, Princess Diana, was killed following paparazzi pursuit
He and Meghan have received documented threats, including extremist rhetoric
His military service (Afghanistan) placed him on known threat lists
His children are high-value symbolic targets, regardless of titles

None of this evaporated because he moved to California.

Okay now because you can’t have a argument without both sides of the story lets talk about why the UK government has refused:

The official stance is:

Police protection is tied to official royal duties
Allowing people to “buy” police services could set a precedent
Security decisions must remain under state control, not personal request

This is a policy argument… not a safety argument.

So why is Harry fighting this so publically?:

Harry believes removing protection discourages others from leaving. That signals “Step outside the institution, and you’re on your own.” And it indirectly pressures him to return or stay silent.

so those are the facts. How do you feel about it?

also, if there a fact I’ve stated that you wanted cited, politely asking will do just fine.

I really do appreciate your post. You’ve given some detail into why you dislike harry so much. So let me ask this. For argument's sake let’s assume that 80% of Harry claims about what he and Meghan dealt with in the royal family is true… just for the sake of the argument. Let’s also assume that like he said he went through every private avenue to deal with this and it didn’t work. What do you think would of been appropriate?

Not an excuse, but the racism from the British press would be a reason I wouldn’t want to be here as a black woman.

Agree with all of this.

Jeez, you really think that’s a good idea?
The man talks to rubbish bins, he shouldn’t be anywhere near classified intel and neither should his US security team (whoever they are)

I saw that your messages are being reviewed, though I don’t know why.

okay for this. He rang on the wrong doorbell looking for a friend, I see accident. What exactly is your issue with this?

That’s no a bad idea actually, though I still think the problem is threat intel.

Why do you think he thinks its important to go public despite the risks?

Yes I could but I was responding to comments on this one about Harry supposedly exploiting the public purse with his security demands when Charles and William already do that a thousand times over by evading corporation tax on the Duchies.

Because he really is an idiot who is full of his own self importance, whilst at the same time also full of raging jealousy of his brother & has a massive victim / woe is me mentality.

yes he has, are Charles and William still charging hospitals/people on low income/armed forces above market rent? topped up by taxpayers money oh yes they are.

There is already a thread on the Duchies running, you could join in that.

Where is this information that he has paid his 1.5 million bill?

The different is type of threats. A celeb gets individual stalkers and opportunistic attackers.

Prince harry has to deal with extremists, symbolic threats as well as political threats. There is also legal issues here as well which are fundamentally different between a royal and commoner celeb.

From what Harry said, that isn’t quite misleading.

Harry said in an interview that if he is invited here by his family he gets security. All good. If however, he comes for any other reason, then he will get inadequate security which he talked about being someone on the end of a phone. If that is true, I can see why he is pushing for more.

Copilot actually, which I’ve already said. But I don’t feel like I need to research other people claim’s when they can do it themselves. Copilot is there for everyone to use to fact check. This post it to encourage fact based thinking as well as peaceful dialogue about hot topics. As I stated before I have no intention to pretend I have all these facts just laying around in my head.

No, actually I’m more curious of the hatred directed toward harry and Meghan. After researching I can’t actually see what they’ve done warrant so much hatred that it actually bleeds to their children.

Prince harry has to deal with extremists, symbolic threats as well as political threats. There is also legal issues here as well which are fundamentally different between a royal and commoner celeb.

And if this is the case then he will receive enhanced security on top of what he would automatically receive, that is what our Security Services do, assess credible threats and act upon them, so what’s the problem?

Same reason why my countries president’s don’t do things that contribute to our countries purse…. No one makes them.

As I’ve just said upthread, Harry’s issue, as I understand it from the interview he did, seems to be that unless he is invited here by family, he doesn’t get much security at all. Possibly just someone on the end of a phone. That seems inadequate.

What are you basing that on exactly?

You really shouldn’t take Harry’s word for anything, he isn’t exactly known for telling the truth only his truth. Honestly do you really think our Security Services want Harry harmed on their watch? I shall say it once again, he tells the security services he intends to visit the UK and they assess his threat level and provide at our expense, his security, but I can see from this thread it’s a pointless exercise after explaining it time and time again.

Harry shouldn't get security paid for because he made a target for his own back and that of his wife and kids when he boasted about killing people like chess moves in his book. If he is a target it's his own fault. He deliberately put that shit in his book thinking it would mean now he'd have to be given security and he didn't care it put his wife and kids at risk. Vile man.

Ignorant bs - he was literally brainwashed / trained from a toddler to serve in the armed forces, which he did. You are literally saying that if his small children are targeted its their parents fault. Feel free to take your hate of innocent young children elsewhere.

Thanks for the advice but I’m commenting on this one. If scarcity of police manpower and resources - a funding issue - is being used as one of the reasons for not offering Harry the security he needs, then maybe Charles and William should dig in to their very large pockets and contribute to the security fund for all of them?

Repeating this again 'he has security provided on the basis of an up-to-date assessment any time he wants to visit the UK. He just needs to give 28/30 days notice. This will be on the basis of (a) ensuring appropriate security planning (risk assessments, routes etc) can be done and (b) ensuring staff are available'.

You really shouldn’t take Harry’s word for anything, he isn’t exactly known for telling the truth only his truth.

'Whatever the cause, my memory is my memory, it does what it does, gathers and curates as it sees fit, and there’s just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it as there is in so-called objective facts.'