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The royal family

Further pr discussions with the lone gunman now in charge!

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jeffgoldblum · 31/12/2025 14:05

im hoping that @Atlusvuewill not mind me continuing her work, I have a feeling that there is more to discuss and come!

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Ohpleeeease · 17/01/2026 16:00

Thedom · 17/01/2026 09:53

“It's a weird time to post it, why not nearer their anniversary?”

it’s a SM trend, photos from 2016 vs 2026.

Always Paddy-last (as my dad would say), she should get on SM more often if she wants to follow SM trends.

We’re told she didn’t meet him till July 2016 so whoever she’s reminiscing about it isn’t Harry.

Trimmernow · 17/01/2026 18:05

AtIusvue · 17/01/2026 17:29

Oooooh

So she’s not hiring a new PR guru….shes comeback to Sunshine Sachs

They obviously can’t afford to run their own team anymore.

https://archive.ph/oyXHx

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2026/01/17/meghan-hollywood-crisis-comms-firm-advisers-walk-out/

Interesting that Sunshine Sachs are billed as a ‘crisis comms’ agency …. I wonder what crises are coming down the track. Good to see that this change of tack from in-house PR team to agency is being linked to the attrition of staff where 11 key PR hires have all left within short time frames. That’s really appalling management. Also that the bullying accusations of employees was referred to especially the point where ‘some required long term therapy’ to recover from bullying in the workplace whilst others took extended leave. I wonder if some shit hot LA has got a class action of ex employees lined up for an industrial tribunal?

Jbum · 17/01/2026 18:15

Trimmernow · 17/01/2026 18:05

Interesting that Sunshine Sachs are billed as a ‘crisis comms’ agency …. I wonder what crises are coming down the track. Good to see that this change of tack from in-house PR team to agency is being linked to the attrition of staff where 11 key PR hires have all left within short time frames. That’s really appalling management. Also that the bullying accusations of employees was referred to especially the point where ‘some required long term therapy’ to recover from bullying in the workplace whilst others took extended leave. I wonder if some shit hot LA has got a class action of ex employees lined up for an industrial tribunal?

Well thats just media making up a headline thay will grab attention as they arent a crisis comms firm they might have a department or people that offer that service but they are a general PR comms company.

Interesting they use crisis in the headlines.....is this because week or so ago there was headline of William hiring a crisis manager and that would of looked bad on William?

Well we all know the media loce to make headlines more juicer do those clicks

MrsFinkelstein · 17/01/2026 18:22

Jbum · 17/01/2026 18:15

Well thats just media making up a headline thay will grab attention as they arent a crisis comms firm they might have a department or people that offer that service but they are a general PR comms company.

Interesting they use crisis in the headlines.....is this because week or so ago there was headline of William hiring a crisis manager and that would of looked bad on William?

Well we all know the media loce to make headlines more juicer do those clicks

Or is it just media creating headlines for both new PR hires? William wasn't given the same grace though.

Only 1 couple have had 11 PR advisors leave in the past 6yrs though

jeffgoldblum · 17/01/2026 18:26

MrsFinkelstein · 17/01/2026 18:22

Or is it just media creating headlines for both new PR hires? William wasn't given the same grace though.

Only 1 couple have had 11 PR advisors leave in the past 6yrs though

Ahh but that’s different because of reasons …🤔🤷‍♀️

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myrtleWilson · 17/01/2026 18:28

I hope Sunshine Sachs are a bit more on the ball this time. Last time they represented the Sussexes that led to H&M ringing Dani Trin to thank them and fellow squaddies for their support. Said Dani Trin was behind a toxic twitter account named Henry’s Cousin which described Kate as an “anorexic wrinkly hoe” and either Camilla or the Queen were called old hag.
Subshine Sachs should have been much more aware of these activities before leading their clients to personally thank Dani

Trimmernow · 17/01/2026 18:35

Jbum · 17/01/2026 18:15

Well thats just media making up a headline thay will grab attention as they arent a crisis comms firm they might have a department or people that offer that service but they are a general PR comms company.

Interesting they use crisis in the headlines.....is this because week or so ago there was headline of William hiring a crisis manager and that would of looked bad on William?

Well we all know the media loce to make headlines more juicer do those clicks

That’s very true that headlines are for clicks - but I wonder if it is foreshadowing a bullying law suit against them - because to date we have had multiple, separate, legally water-tight investigations by very credible independent industry publications who each reported on the abuse employees suffered and witnessed whilst working for H&M.

The Times, The Hollywood Reporter, Variety, Access Hollywood, Coutiers - each published their own investigations but bizarrely the highly litigious couple H&M haven’t challenged these reports from their employees - why would that be?

myrtleWilson · 17/01/2026 18:36

Subshine is a typo not a dig’

AtIusvue · 17/01/2026 18:36

Sunshine Sachs were the reason why Megs PR was so bad when she was working royal. They just don’t understand the UK/monarchy/public service. Hence, good advice would have been to apologise for idiotic affirmation bananas….but no…..they launched the poor Meg is being bullied by the press narrative.

I think that’s why they are retaining the UK PR guy. SS is just the US

Lunde · 17/01/2026 20:29

I wonder if there is something brewing about the sudden shuttering of Archewell?

Mylovelygreendress · 17/01/2026 22:02

I think Liam is on his way out .

chunkyBoo · 17/01/2026 22:15

I think going back to Sunshine Sachs just affirms that there’s no one that is able to help these two 🤡🤡

Thedom · 17/01/2026 22:21

Lunde · 17/01/2026 20:29

I wonder if there is something brewing about the sudden shuttering of Archewell?

Perhaps some ex employees not going quietly ?

bluegreygreen · 17/01/2026 22:25

Mylovelygreendress · 17/01/2026 22:02

I think Liam is on his way out .

Not sure. The article does say Sunshine Sachs is working with them 'specifically in the US' so they may be keeping Liam for UK stuff.

There's been plenty of UK-focused PR spin recently, so he seems to be pretty active at present.

BemusedAmerican · 17/01/2026 23:12

The new mayor of NYC is a socialist. Maybe he told them to hire their own security and forget NYPD, and they need another NYC crisis. 😁

Baital · 18/01/2026 00:05

Well, the US version of a socialist!

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/01/2026 06:50

Mylovelygreendress · 17/01/2026 22:02

I think Liam is on his way out .

If recent articles are a good reflection of his approach that is probably for the best.

Trimmernow · 18/01/2026 08:51

Thedom · 17/01/2026 22:21

Perhaps some ex employees not going quietly ?

Agree. And even I expect charities.

They told a whole pack of lies just last week that they had transitioned the Parents Network out of Archewell to be supported and managed by another charity because that’s their model of ‘incubating’ and moving on as they did with IG and Travelyst.

But that’s just lies because IG and Travelyst existed / were ‘incubated’
well before Archewell even existed. Also IG and Travelyst both still have ref to PH / Archewell - but the Parents Network doesn’t have any ref to H&M and Archewell now in their new set up - totally no association.

If H&M have shat on this charity and these suffering parents like they did with Sentebale - then they really are gross.

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/01/2026 08:55

bluegreygreen · 17/01/2026 22:25

Not sure. The article does say Sunshine Sachs is working with them 'specifically in the US' so they may be keeping Liam for UK stuff.

There's been plenty of UK-focused PR spin recently, so he seems to be pretty active at present.

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Today The Mail have a story on Harry revisiting the old video of him at a sporting event eating popcorn which a child next to him is nicking. The headline says it shows what a good Dad Harry would be.

If this is the sort of barrel scraping Liam is placing in the media now you do wonder why they think he's doing a good job.

At this point I would be closing any PR operations in the UK and focusing their efforts on raising their profile in the US. There is much more of a future for them there in terms of revenue.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 18/01/2026 09:04

@MrsLeonFarrell that is really weird.

The headline is written as if it happened yesterday, 'what a great dad he would be'
He is a dad, has he done nothing in the years of being a dad to show he actually is a good dad?

is this really the only positive thing that they can think of ?

Weird.

Baital · 18/01/2026 09:16

Presumably because it's ok to use other people's children for publicity, but not his own...

But I always found that an odd conclusion to draw from that incident - it's the Disney Dad style of parenting. Lots of fun now and then, but not really there in any significant way. Great to have fun uncles (and aunts) involved in a child's life.

DB is a great uncle, fun days out, cash on birthdays and Xmas. It's always a treat for DD when he comes over. But he'd be a terrible parent. And has enough self knowledge not to go down that path, and embrace being a Top Uncle rather than crap dad.

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 18/01/2026 09:18

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 18/01/2026 09:04

@MrsLeonFarrell that is really weird.

The headline is written as if it happened yesterday, 'what a great dad he would be'
He is a dad, has he done nothing in the years of being a dad to show he actually is a good dad?

is this really the only positive thing that they can think of ?

Weird.

Or is something about to come out/happen that could suggest or be interpreted that he isn't a great dad, so we need to be shown 'evidence' of his great way with children? (Which was always one of the ways the Palace PR presented Harry to us - Cheeky Chappy, Great With Kids.)

I don't mean it will come out that he's pushed one of his kids over in the street or anything, I'm thinking in terms of perhaps leaving them in the US for extended periods of time while he stays in the UK.

Or is it the PR antidote to 'here comes that moaning, whinging, angry, miserable git again' - which is how many of us feel every time we see a headline about his court cases.

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RecoIIectionsMayVary · 18/01/2026 09:21

Or is it the PA antidote to 'here comes that moaning, whinging, angry, miserable git again'

Yes, maybe. Interesting that the antidote is from before the wedding.

I agree there must be a reason behind it, preempting something makes sense.

MrsLeonFarrell · 18/01/2026 10:01

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 18/01/2026 09:18

Or is something about to come out/happen that could suggest or be interpreted that he isn't a great dad, so we need to be shown 'evidence' of his great way with children? (Which was always one of the ways the Palace PR presented Harry to us - Cheeky Chappy, Great With Kids.)

I don't mean it will come out that he's pushed one of his kids over in the street or anything, I'm thinking in terms of perhaps leaving them in the US for extended periods of time while he stays in the UK.

Or is it the PR antidote to 'here comes that moaning, whinging, angry, miserable git again' - which is how many of us feel every time we see a headline about his court cases.

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That's a good point about the court case. It makes logical sense.

I couldn't get why they would talk about Harry's parenting now and using such an old video. I see no evidence that he or Meghan are bad parents and no articles alleging they are so it's seemed a pointless article. But as a counter point to grumpy court Harry, that's logical.

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