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Why was Prince Andrew always regarded as the Queen's favourite child?

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SpaEnjoyer · 16/09/2025 10:47

I remember that Andrew was often referred to as the Queen's favourite child when she was alive, and before he was managed out of public life for being such an embarrassment to the family. He wasn't her firstborn DC or even her first son. So why did she prefer him to all the others?

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RosesAndHellebores · 01/11/2025 21:12

CalzoneOnLegs · 27/09/2025 10:19

@CoffeeCantata she has very large beautiful eyes doesnt she.

Which pop a bit. Graves disease potentially.

My endocrinologist, Sir Richard Bayliss (deceased) was the Royal Physician for many years.

Many of them have protruding eyes. It makes sense. Graves/Thyroid disiease is more common in Eastern Europe (parys of Russia, Poland, Prussia, etc). With the in-breeding, it isn't rocket science.

JillyJoy · 01/11/2025 21:17

I think he was more robust and 'manly' than the others. That's why he did his full time in the RN much of it Operational, not admin or easy. As a helicopter pilot he must have had good hearing and good intelligence when he started. Aircraft may have damaged his hearing in later years. I think he di his full 22 years.

Needspaceforlego · 02/11/2025 01:31

CathyorClaire · 01/11/2025 20:44

It's been calculated as the equivalent of £250 a week over the duration of the lease.

Bent rent seems to be the royal norm.

A long term lease is more like purchase, how much would it have been to purchase?

Except I bet the term of the least meant he couldn't sell it on.

Noshadelamp · 02/11/2025 17:19

250mlmax · 16/09/2025 10:52

Rumour has it that he’s not Prince Philip’s son, his father is Lord Porchester. That’s why he doesn’t look like the others.

Definitely a resemblance there

Why was Prince Andrew always regarded as the Queen's favourite child?
CoffeeCantata · 02/11/2025 18:15

FuzzyWolf · 16/09/2025 10:53

Was he really though or is it just what the media likes to say?

I’ve lost count of the contradictions about her favourite grandson and whether it was Peter or Harry. Personally I would have chosen James.

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Yes - it’s always trotted out. I was wondering about the evidence.

upinaballoon · 02/11/2025 18:42

Needspaceforlego · 01/11/2025 19:50

Peppercorn rent is actually that a pepper corn that you'd buy in tesco.

Exactly. That's why it's called a peppercorn rent. I take it to mean that the agreement was that he paid a lump sum up front and would then have to pay a tiny rent, if any.

Needspaceforlego · 02/11/2025 18:58

upinaballoon · 02/11/2025 18:42

Exactly. That's why it's called a peppercorn rent. I take it to mean that the agreement was that he paid a lump sum up front and would then have to pay a tiny rent, if any.

He paid £8m up front but there is also talk of him paying millions in up grades and repairs.

CathyorClaire · 02/11/2025 20:21

Needspaceforlego · 02/11/2025 18:58

He paid £8m up front but there is also talk of him paying millions in up grades and repairs.

IIRC the lease initially cost £1m and he paid some £7m for the renovations which effectively relieved him of future rental obligations.

They all do the bent rent dance though.

Ed scored a similar deal on Bagshot; Harold's capital repayment to the taxpayer included eighteen months invisible rent while releasing him from any further payment obligations thus saving him a packet and C3 bought Highgrove through the Duchy of Cornwall making the Duchy his landlord and effectively recycling his rental payments back into his own pocket as Duchy profit.

I dont suppose any of them will be thanking Mr MW for drawing attention to their cosy deals...

LidlAmaretto · 03/11/2025 00:05

Noshadelamp · 02/11/2025 17:19

Definitely a resemblance there

I mean, I dont believe TLQ would have had a child by someone else but it does make sense that he doesn't look anything like his fathers side or his brothers, and if Phil was seemingly completely hands off with him while his mother let him do whatever he wanted.

Woodfiresareamazing · 19/02/2026 21:11

LidlAmaretto · 18/09/2025 19:49

Philip was by all accounts a scoundrel and she adored him so maybe she loved the worst of her children just because he had that bad boy streak. Hes descended into sleazy though.

It could be said that Phillip could be sleazy too, in terms of being a bit of a shagmeister.

Tontostitis · 19/02/2026 21:22

He wasn't Edward was

LaurieFairyCake · 19/02/2026 22:16

Of course Queenie wouldn’t have had a kid with Porchie! (She may have shagged him
but she’d never have got pregnant by him)

All the chinless twats have a load of common ancestors obviously

Fernticket · 19/02/2026 22:34

nopiesleftinthisvehicle · 01/11/2025 18:16

Yes. He's often referred to as being completely boorish and makes infantile jokes infront of guests.
Worse, he would leave his 'alone time' tissues strewn over the bed for the morning Staff to dispose of 🤢

🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Needspaceforlego · 21/02/2026 10:06

LaurieFairyCake · 19/02/2026 22:16

Of course Queenie wouldn’t have had a kid with Porchie! (She may have shagged him
but she’d never have got pregnant by him)

All the chinless twats have a load of common ancestors obviously

I honestly don't think she'd ever have had sex out of wedlock.
Phil might have but I don't believe she would go against her Christian faith or her wedding vows.

Changedname9999 · 21/02/2026 19:05

KnickerlessParsons · 17/09/2025 23:20

He looks like Queen Victoria IMO

Both the queen and prince philip were descended from Victoria. Probably porchi as well. They are all very inbred.

TightlyLacedCorset · 21/02/2026 20:15

Needspaceforlego · 21/02/2026 10:06

I honestly don't think she'd ever have had sex out of wedlock.
Phil might have but I don't believe she would go against her Christian faith or her wedding vows.

I wouldn't stake my life on the Queen never having an affair.

I've been struck recently by the fact that there's an entire PR apparatus that comes both from within and outside the Royal institution that is expressly geared to ensure a favourable narrative is told and a benevolent light shone. What we see is often curated. I saw yesterday, a former newspaper editor admit that they would sometimes not print stories that cast the RF in a disreputable or unfavourable light.

Think about it, the RF has been around for centuries, they've survived that long, even managing to thrive amidst a democracy and their PR game is second to none. It is already going into overdrive right now to recast the RF in a good light so they can continue to survive and it is actually working.

The constant narrative of a great love story between QE2 and PP, that she was besotted with him all her life, and relentlessly and totally bound to duty with an iron clad will with absolutely no wavering is very unlikely to be entirely true or just not true at all. We don't actually know what their marriage was like. We don't. There seems to be rumours of PP having multiple sexual dalliances. If true, (and Lownie implies it is and I doubt he would risk his reputation as a historian) assuming the Queen was also a virgin at her marriage and not sexually pedestrian in her outlook, that has to have hurt at some level, Queen or not, at least initially. Later, a hardening might emerge, but I doubt it at first. She's a human first. Realistically the marriage could not have been happy the entire time. And pragmatically, few people's are, let alone with all the weight of Royalty.

So I wouldn't stake my savings on the Queen never having a 'moment'. And one can also make some off choices and not be any less devoted to ones faith. Redemption is sort of a key point of the whole thing.

Of course there's no evidence of her doing any such thing as having someone else's child. But I wouldn't cast it in stone that she didn't.

NewAgeNewMe · 21/02/2026 20:31

Most relationships have ups and downs; it would be unusual if theirs didn’t.

Needspaceforlego · 22/02/2026 02:09

Relationships have ups and downs, there might have been times they weren't close but i can't imagine her having a full blown affair with anyone.

Dazedandconfused28 · 22/02/2026 04:41

SecondSpare · 18/09/2025 21:12

Criticism of Louis is seen as anathema on MN. The truth is that he gets away with things all the time which George and Charlotte would have been told off for. See Louis' behaviour during KC's coronation, the late Queen's Platinum Jubilee Pageant, Trooping the Colour for a few examples. He was also kept at home during the Wimbledon Men's Final, which George and Charlotte both attended (and both of them behaved impeccably during that event).

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Criticism of a small children should be anathema. Particularly condemning that child to the same future as his Great Uncle, whose under the suspicion of horrendous abuse of power.

How many of our small children would behave impeccably in front of the world's media - I saw a small, fidgety child making a few faces, hardly makes him a future criminal. My son (ND) played with Louis at an event & he was nothing but an inquisitive, charming little boy - and very gentle with DS.

The condemning of a child, of whom we know nothing about, is a poor reflection on you.

SouthernNights59 · 22/02/2026 05:39

250mlmax · 16/09/2025 10:52

Rumour has it that he’s not Prince Philip’s son, his father is Lord Porchester. That’s why he doesn’t look like the others.

Oh grow up!

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