Jamaican PM Holness told King Charles that he did not invite Harry and Meghan to Marley Premier

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H&M created a diplomatic issue for the head of government of one of KC3's realms, to the extent that PM Holness called KC3 to clarify that Holness had not invited H&M to the Marley premier and was in fact blindsided by the duo.

And therein lies the issue with the so-called reconciliation. H is a loose cannon. KC3 has enabled H for his lifetime and has protected H by keeping news of the Holness call under wraps. It was the Jamaican side that has put this news out there.

If H gets his meeting and then sprints to the nearest TV camera to use "King Pa" to access other individuals and subsequently causes havoc for UK international relations...then "King Pa" will only have himself to blame for failing to put his country above his personal desires.

I have always said that H&M would eventually cause a diplomatic incident too big for KC3 to contain. Well...there it is.

I wonder when Prime Minister Holness will hold the independence referendum?

Independence referendum? Jamaica has been independent since 1962.

That's hilarious! But if they were invited by the CEO, why weren't they given VIP treatment? Unless it was them who asked and he just sent them a couple of basic tickets to be nice? Ouch.

This is why I don't think Harry is a political threat. People with real power know who counts politically and who doesn't. Harry can pose all he wants but only he thinks what he says and does matters. People will be polite but when he gets close to upsetting the political apple cart his position is made clear to those with power. The same thing happened when he visited Nigeria, it was made very clear that he represents himself only.

It doesn't matter what is said in the press or on social media, unless politicians take him seriously is all sound and fury signifying nothing.

I’d agree with this. As usual spot on.

Here is a high-level official, speaking on the record that the Jamaican government was "annoyed" and that the Jamaican Prime Minister (Holness) sought to correct the record with his Head of State (KC3).

A "high-level official"???😂😂😂

She wishes. She is neither born in nor does she live in Jamaica. She is one of DOZENS of pretty much self-appointed "ambassadors" around the world who have not a shred of importance to Jamaica and are in no way members of or appointed by its government. Basically, anyone with Jamaican roots with enough money (which is all that distinguishes her - she has money) can buy their own place as an "ambassador". She's a "sales person" for Jamaica alongside many other people of little importance. There is no such government position as Ambassador for Culture to the UK. It's a made up title of no value or importance, and I seriously doubt that a politician who was not at all disturbed by suggesting in public that the KIng and his family could sling their royal hooks and have a repubican Jamaica gives a damn what Charlie boy a few thousand miles away thinks about who turned up to see a movie.

I have no skin in the game as I would happily ship the bloody lot of the leeches to California (or anywhere else they'd like to depart to) starting with Charles and Camilla, but I do find it hysterical the lengths that the Daily Mail and a bunch of sycophants will go to to try to make something out of nothing. They are all an irrelevancy. And given opinions polls swinging against them now that Elizabeth is dead - at least she had style and understood duty, unlike the current bunch of clowns - an irrelevancy that will probably have only a generation or two left atr best. Don't any of you realise that it is these tawdry and ridiculous antics that are, far from enhancing the reputation of the royal family, showing just how completely irrlevant they are to modern life?

So much!!

Very disappointed no more royal tours seem to be in the pipeline. Another classic moment was the banquet at the bare school dinner tables, with Harry edged out onto the adjacent trestle table.

I think the point is that is was embarrassing to the PM to be put in a position where he was photographed with a member of the royal family because he is anti-monarchy. He was put in the spot by the situation, which would normally have been arranged through government channels for working royals.

Harry and Meghan has spent that year swanning around the globe doing ‘royal’ tours in any country that would have them and I think assumed that they could go where ever they please. But the reality is that some countries governments will not want rogue members of the BRF doing publicity with their public officials for diplomatic or reasons.

I suspect that this was what Meghan was hinting at in the Bloomberg interview about the difficulty of travel for them now. They’ve probably been reminded in no I certain terms that they need to either keep a low profile while travelling or make the required diplomatic arrangements. They can’t just double up holidays with PR shots in countries with complex diplomatic ties to Britain.

Oh no, I wasn't accusing them of turning up uninvited more that a PP said they were behaving like normal members of the public but that's not something that happens to most normal people, this one has certainly never been to a film premiere nor invited to one by a CEO.

It's really not my concern if they spend every day of the week attending film premiers (although I might envy them the amount of £££ saved in extortionate cinema tickets).

A bill introduced last December is still working its way through Parliament to allow the referendum on replacing the monarchy with a republic. JLP have a majority in Parliament but this bill is a change to the Constitution so needs a supermajority (2/3) to pass. Removing the monarch also means replacing the Governor-General as Head of State, but there's dissent on how this position should be filled and if it should have increased powers to offset what a lot of people see as the excessive power of the PM. And the current proposal still retains the UK Privy Council as the highest court of appeal when it probably should be the Caribbean Court of Justice. Holness planned a 2-stage process, monarchy out and then change the court, but the opposition say they must go hand in hand. Also the bill doesn't explain how the Referendum would work; supposedly there's a separate bill detailing that that hasn't been presented yet so probably more delays.

Well you an unimportant entity..why don't you go away and shut up? Not nice is it when its directed at you no doubt someone will report this and it'll be deleted but hey you think its fine to say it to others though. 💁‍♀️

I think the point is that is was embarrassing to the PM to be put in a position where he was photographed with a member of the royal family because he is anti-monarchy. He was put in the spot by the situation, which would normally have been arranged through government channels for working royals

I honestly don't understand this, @Bontonbonbon; if Holness is as anti-monarchy as he claims surely he could have just dodged the photo op completely?

Hi Spectre I think you totally missed my point!

As a republican, I am on your side of the arguments mainly! I was posting in support of H&M.

I’m certainly not going to report you!

Have a good evening!

Peace and love

I'm not a LOLer, but I actually did LOL just then.

Holness chose to take his shot at H&M during H's much publicised UK visit. It is a political statement whether or not super-supporters want to admit this.

And it begs the question...what other diplomatic fiascos are to come? And to pretend there are no possible diplomatic ramifications from H's reckless behavior over the past few years is quite the choice...but I guess it is consistent for residents of fairytale land to believe in fairy tales!

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I do agree to a certain extent that he has regretted the photo afterwards. But I do imagine that in the heat of the moment on the red carpet he got swept up into it. Hindsight is a great thing. Perhaps he thought Meghan was some sort of anti-monarchy campaigner as well. Who knows. But I think my point still stands about why these kind of things are usually coordinated for BRF members (retired or not). The men in grey suits have usually negotiated this stuff in advance!

I find it highly suspicious that this is splashed all over the Daily Mail.

Edited to say that the timing of the article is highly suspicious too given that the visit was a year ago and Harry is in the UK now!

Normally communications between ambassadors, diplomats and the RF would be highly confidential.

And I doubt many people would have been aware of this issue, if there is one, had it not been published in the DM!

It smacks to me of deliberate stirring and making things difficult for H&M again. Whatever they do they are in the wrong!
And it’s nicely timed to scupper Harry’s visit!

Hotness has said nothing at all. And I seriously doubt he is stupid enough to be loose mouthed to a non-entity wannabe a year after the event. Heads of State do not disclose private conversations with other heads of state to non- entities. If she said it she made it up to make herself look important.

Hear hear!!

'No free water for you, Sir and Ma'am please sweep the floor'

One of my favourite ever Harold moments 😆

And maybe a lesson to consider for those royals unfortunate enough not to be heir to a duchy 🤓

You don't have to be a 'super supporter' (your words) to think this is a load of bunkum

And it’s nicely timed to scupper Harry’s visit!

TBF Harold is a past master at scuppering (or attempting to scupper) other people's big moments.

Biter bit?

This event was such a cringeworthy display and Meghan must have thought it was going to be a prestigious event to wear such a dress.

A diplomatic incident too big to be contained?! Come on 🤣

They are comedy gold!

But I suspect they don’t help anyone in those lucky countries except for the odd official.