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The royal family

Is As ever all over? Starting to feel like it.

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AtIusvue · 06/08/2025 10:13

It’s been 14 hours since the launch of the 2024 Rose. Nothing has sold out. This is despite it being designed again as a scarcity drop, so it can’t be argued she’s finally got her stock levels right.

  • As ever stated the wine launch going ‘live’ at on the 5th August. Language designed to get you to rush and buy. Just like all this SM shopping you get now.
  • Meghan put out a message many hours ago, stating that they have so much more stock (sad clapback to stuff not shifting) but hurry and be quick because it’s selling fast!!! (It’s clearly not)
  • This launch however, has attracted very little press compared to previous drops

The scarcity gimmick is already tired and because she’s been absent from SM for 2 months…save for a few stock images/videos- she’s lost any momentum she had. She’s putting in bare minimum and her customer base feel it. She’s checked out.

There’s been talk of another series of WLM 3 and Meg getting a new NF contract, but I think that is just to fill the void until she can get WLM2 out. At which point, we will find out if there is any truth in any further deals.

The reason why I doubt WLM3, is that for continuity, you would need the same venue. But the home is now being used to to host weddings etc, it’s no longer a private rental but one open to the public to rent. There’s no way Meg would film in that location now. In addition she would need to have gotten the go ahead already for WLM3 and be filming right now to be able to stick to a schedule. The fact that it isn’t already confirmed, it’s giving the signal that WLM is over (in addition to knowing NF deal is done)

Now if WLM is over, I don’t think she has the draw to pull people to As ever. She doesn’t engage with her fan base enough, she does the bare minimum of SM posts, which she hasn’t even achieved the last few months. The Shopmy page is dead too. This is why the new wine launch has barely registered and hasn’t sold out 14 hours later. Yes, there will be more stock but it’s been designed for a sell out so there won’t be huge numbers.

As ever I think will be slowly wound down. There will be WLM2, with maybe another 18 months of drops. Then like everything else, it will be dropped quietly. Everyone is starting to get a bit bored by the half hearted, very beige effort she’s put into her ‘business’ and have tuned out.

She will have to launch yet another version of herself very soon. We’ve had actress, feminist, activist, producer, philanthropist….now female founder. God knows what’s next!

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HonoriaBulstrode · 06/08/2025 20:11

She should just flog clothes.i
So long as they fit and are ironed .

And are not beige.

jamnpancakes · 06/08/2025 20:12

Tigger1895 · 06/08/2025 20:10

Jesus, you need to get outside and touch grass

Did he have something to do with the wine?

jamnpancakes · 06/08/2025 20:13

vera99 · 06/08/2025 20:07

I have no idea, but I presume it's a kind of anticipatory glee the sense that the Sussexes, who are seen in these parts as next to the devil incarnate, will eventually implode, thereby proving people right: that leaving the stultifying confines of the British Royal Family and daring to write about it should be punished. In earlier times, they’d have been at the scaffold at the Tower, cheering on the axeman. Now, they have to make do with the fact that a rosé wine the couple marketed hasn’t sold out within a day.

You don't understand the marketing aspects either? Wow!

HonoriaBulstrode · 06/08/2025 20:15

Did he have something to do with the wine?

Well, He did once turn water into wine. And reportedly produced quite a good vintage.

Spectre8 · 06/08/2025 20:16

Spectre8 · 06/08/2025 19:29

Well why do you find it so threatening?

Yeah funny you write utter rubbish like that

Mylovelygreendress · 06/08/2025 20:19

vera99 · 06/08/2025 19:54

I don’t get the manufactured outrage aimed at the Sussexes for simply trying to earn an honest living meanwhile, over in Yorkdom, deep within the castle walls… WTAF? Let’s be honest, all this uproar is based on nothing more than speculation and personal prejudice.

Honest living ? Telling numerous lies for money ?

vera99 · 06/08/2025 20:19

I have no axes to grind here but here's a nice article from Elle.

https://www.elle.com/culture/travel-food/a65605438/meghan-markle-as-ever-jam-wine-essay/

So you can see why this kind of coverage has me, someone without any jam and without any rosé, scratching my head. From the coveted fruit spreads and wine to the supremely Instagrammable flower sprinkles, it’s obvious there are buyers out there for what Markle is selling. But because the As Ever products consistently go viral and sell out very quickly, I’m supposed to believe that the duchess is a total failure? These clickbait declarations of brand disaster, focused on empire-building and margins and monetization, always contain assurances of Markle’s impending flop. They miss, though, what is really setting As Ever apart: The brand is Meghan Markle on her terms.

In With Love, Meghan, Markle’s skill at entertaining is so breezy and palpable that it makes you start to believe that you too can easily make your own candles or throw together a summer salad with ingredients from your vegetable garden. (Though my wilting lettuce plant on the kitchen counter would argue otherwise.) The best lifestyle doyens have this magical aspirational quality in spades—Martha Stewart of course, and Ina Garten, even Gwyneth Paltrow. When they share little hints of who they might be off screen—like Ina sipping a cocktail, Martha posting a thirst trap before an update on her donkeys, Gwyneth dicing onions in Italian pajamas—it can build connection and drive consumer behavior, a measurable things that Harvard Business Review calls “emotional motivators.

Exclusivity, right now at least, is a feature of As Ever, and for celebrity-driven brands, that’s often a key differentiator in such an oversaturated market. It certainly seems to be working on me. I like Meghan Markle. I’m rooting for her. My misadventures in procuring the jam have only spurred me on. I’m certain I’ll get that fruity spread one day, even though I’m not sure what I’ll put it on. Probably toast. With flower sprinkles on top.

How Meghan Markle’s Jam Became the Ultimate Status Symbol

Clearly, I am not the only one buying what the Duchess of Sussex is selling.

https://www.elle.com/culture/travel-food/a65605438/meghan-markle-as-ever-jam-wine-essay/

vera99 · 06/08/2025 20:20

jamnpancakes · 06/08/2025 20:13

You don't understand the marketing aspects either? Wow!

You may wish to read the elle article I have just posted !

Snobb · 06/08/2025 20:21

Thedom · 06/08/2025 20:08

Where is all the outrage?

posters are following the escapades of Meghans business endeavours with bemusement and a bit of cynical fascination.

Bemusement, befuddlement, bewilderment .....

I think that since the WLM viewing figures were atrocious and the NF deal has ended - she's just given up on As Ever.

I'm here for the sneer - hugely entertaining to watch these two 'Fu*king Grifters' who have treated so many people so, so badly fall on their arse.

I expect MM will be forced now to resort to her fall back 'tell-all' and we will see her book "Squandered" on the shelves in time for Xmas.

vera99 · 06/08/2025 20:25

Snobb · 06/08/2025 20:21

Bemusement, befuddlement, bewilderment .....

I think that since the WLM viewing figures were atrocious and the NF deal has ended - she's just given up on As Ever.

I'm here for the sneer - hugely entertaining to watch these two 'Fu*king Grifters' who have treated so many people so, so badly fall on their arse.

I expect MM will be forced now to resort to her fall back 'tell-all' and we will see her book "Squandered" on the shelves in time for Xmas.

err Elle is leading with this article - hold that Rose celebration. That said Rose is pants it neither red or white but millions seem to like it.

Is As ever all over? Starting to feel like it.
vera99 · 06/08/2025 20:30

And now Vogue praising the product - sorry to break it to some but this isn't failure - it's borderline genuis.

https://www.vogue.com/article/is-meghan-markles-as-ever-rose-good

So which catgeory one does Markle’s fall under? Well, we decided to ask Jordan Salcito, an award-winning sommelier who oversaw the wine program at Eleven Madison Park and Momofuku, to put As Ever Rosé to an unbiased taste-test. “I approached it exactly as I would any other bottle: with curiosity, attention, and the analytical framework I've used to understand thousands of wines throughout my career,” says Salcito, whose how-to-wine tasting book, Smart Mouth, comes out this October. Her honest review, below. (Oh, and if you managed to get your hands on the in-demand vino? Salcito recommends pairing it with “chilled with grilled salmon, pork belly or barbecue, roasted vegetables, or even spicy Thai takeout.”)

This isn't the pale, whisper-thin pink of so many celebrity rosés that seem designed more for Instagram than actual drinking. Instead, we're looking at a gorgeous, substantial pink with a dark rose-colored center that transitions to a pale rim.

The viscosity immediately caught my attention. Medium-plus weight in the glass tells a story before you even smell or taste anything. This indicates the grapes were harvested very ripe, which suggests a winemaking team that prioritized concentration and flavor development over simply getting the wine to market quickly.

Smell & Taste

This is where things get interesting. I always approach aromatics and flavors using my mental framework of Fruit, Earth, Wood, Flowers, Herbs, Spices, and Other; these are categories that help keep me focused on the symphony of sensations happening in my glass.

Fruit: The wine delivers exactly what you hope for from premium rosé: ripe strawberries that remind you of summer farmers’ markets, juicy watermelon, and a beautiful citrus component of pink grapefruit and grapefruit peel that adds sophistication and lift.

Earth: Here’s where As Ever shows some personality. The river stone minerality adds a backbone that elevates this beyond simple fruit-forward rosé territory. It’s subtle but noticeable, and I loved this.

Wood: Refreshingly, there’s no obvious new oak here. No vanilla, no baking spice distractions. The wine speaks clearly of fruit rather than winemaking technique—a smart choice for rosé.

Flowers & Herbs: The hibiscus flower notes are particularly lovely, adding an almost tea-like elegance. A whisper of thyme and oregano might surprise some people, but these herbal elements are what make this wine food-friendly rather than just a poolside sipper.

Spices: Pink peppercorn adds a delicate spice note that complements rather than overwhelms.
Structure

Here’s where I separate the serious wines from the marketing exercises. Structure—what I call the TAAL framework (Tannins, Acid, Alcohol, Length)—is arguably the most important part of any wine analysis.

Tannins: As expected in rosé, there are no perceptible tannins here. The grape skins had minimal contact with the juice, exactly right for this style.

Acidity: The acidity is bright and fresh, like biting into a grapefruit. This level of acidity means the wine will pair nicely with food and should age gracefully for a year or so if you don't drink it all this summer.

Alcohol: At 14.5% alcohol by volume, this is quite high for rosé, where most are around 12-13%. You can feel this richness and weight on your palate, along with a bit of heat on the finish. This isn’t necessarily a flaw, but it does position this as a more full-bodied rosé, meant to enjoy with snacks or a meal, rather than a light apéritif.

Length/Complexity: The finish is long, with those slightly bitter grapefruit notes lingering.

Is Meghan Markle’s “As Ever” Rosé Actually Good?

A sommelier gives Vogue her honest review of Meghan Markle’s wine.

https://www.vogue.com/article/is-meghan-markles-as-ever-rose-good

jamnpancakes · 06/08/2025 20:34

There's as many @vera99 that slate it. One man 's meat and all that 🤷‍♀️

VintageMarket · 06/08/2025 20:35

Even the title doesn't make sense.

jamnpancakes · 06/08/2025 20:36

vera99 · 06/08/2025 20:20

You may wish to read the elle article I have just posted !

Why? Did you write it ? Oh so you DO know what this thread is about...your previous comment was just fun and giggles ?

jamnpancakes · 06/08/2025 20:37

VintageMarket · 06/08/2025 20:35

Even the title doesn't make sense.

Dog What GIF by MOODMAN

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jamnpancakes · 06/08/2025 20:39

HonoriaBulstrode · 06/08/2025 20:15

Did he have something to do with the wine?

Well, He did once turn water into wine. And reportedly produced quite a good vintage.

jesus wink GIF

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VintageMarket · 06/08/2025 20:39

Nope, that means nothing to me either.

IAmATorturedPoet · 06/08/2025 20:40

jamnpancakes · 06/08/2025 20:39

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🤣

vera99 · 06/08/2025 20:41

Well the King has replied with dog bisuits. As Ever should reply with a limited edition dog bowl - but obviously an unbreakable one !

https://balmoralcastle.com/shop/products/royal-dog-treats

Balmoral Castle, a grey stone building with turrets, sits against a backdrop of pine forrest hills under a partly cloudy sky. The foreground features a green lawn with yellow daffodils.

Royal Dog Treats

https://balmoralcastle.com/shop/products/royal-dog-treats

AtIusvue · 06/08/2025 20:44

VintageMarket · 06/08/2025 20:35

Even the title doesn't make sense.

You seem extremely confused by this thread, I’m not sure if this is for you

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AtIusvue · 06/08/2025 20:44

Some people very upset about the damp squib of a wine launch 😬

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 06/08/2025 20:46

I can’t take you seriously @vera99 you hate the royal family with such passion and yet here you are fawning over a Duke and Duchess or Good King Harry as you prefer to call him, do you post all that with a straight face?

NeedZzzzzssss · 06/08/2025 20:46

waitingforpost · 06/08/2025 10:21

Do you really want it to be over? What will you do with your time if you can't obsess over a stranger?!

Ha ha, was thinking the thing! Will these tedious Meghan threads ever be over 😑

AtIusvue · 06/08/2025 20:47

NeedZzzzzssss · 06/08/2025 20:46

Ha ha, was thinking the thing! Will these tedious Meghan threads ever be over 😑

Not when you actively contribute to them

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VintageMarket · 06/08/2025 20:47

You're right OP. Good luck with whatever this is.

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