Netflix deal to end

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/35969847/prince-harry-meghan-netflix-deal-axed/

Netflix deal is over

• Both decided a statement won’t be released “Publicly, there will not be a statement and of course, if things change dramatically, they’d be open to a one-off project down the line.”
• Talk about Paramount plus

It’s been pretty obvious for a while. No talk about the Archewell productions arm, the film they were making etc.

How long can As ever last when they won’t have NF to back it up with WLM infomercials.

I think this is true, because they are both narratives or 'Archetypes' 😏 we have experience of so will default too.

A women who takes over her husbands life and decisions and he concedes to it because she's so capable, and she's helped him understand that his family are dysfunctional and she's now his family, is a situation many have seen.

A man who is dominant, controlling and won't tolerate doing things he doesn't want to, and insists his wife falls in line with his demands is also a familiar story.

Both lead to family alienation but only one is recognised as abusive.

His family knew him . Tom Inskip and others knew him .
All cast aside .

If Meghan produced receipts it would be confirmation of what many believe are her motives in marrying Harry. She'll make money but I doubt it will provide public appreciation. It would bring them both down.

Oh yes I know - but we don’t know whether his family are thinking “I don’t know how we managed to convince everyone he was a laid back cheeky chappy for so long!!” or “how can he have changed so much!”

@StrawberryWasp I have said the same before. If Harry had been female then everyone would be recognising emotional abuse.

I agree. She's now 44. When she was younger, it was all about the hot girl look. That was a consistent and deliberate professional and personal choice.

I agree

To put it crudely and simply, Harry adores/adored Meghan because she seems super-sexy - no mystery there! He was bowled over by all the things which I personally would find false and irritating: her loquaciousness (which we recognise as word salads), her claims to being an activist and philanthropist (much questioned and discredited) and her confidence that she could do a better job than the boring royals.

I think she’s intelligent in the sense that she’s crafty, sly and manipulative, but not in an intellectual sense. But all this was enough to impress dim Harry. Plus she quite calculatedly positioned herself as the reincarnation of his lost mother, and again, he fell for this hook, line and sinker.

It’s so obvious to outsiders how fake, shallow and basically dishonest Meghan is, but H is absolutely blinded by lust and believes her hype. I don’t know what the current situation is - but I do see parallels with the Duke and Duchess of Windsor in that they have sold us the myth of the greatest love story ever told and they have to keep that illusion going, and that M is probably bored out of her butterfly mind by H by now, but can’t do much about it just yet.

I also think Harry was, and is, happy for Meghan to take all the decisions as I don’t think he is capable of taking responsibility for himself. He fell in lust with Meghan and then just followed her lead

You're not wrong, My2cents1975, but while I don't pretend to know what Harry's thinking - or even if he's thinking at all - it begs the question of what else is out there for Harry, where he'd go and what would happen about the children

If notoriety is what Meghan wanted then there's no doubt she's played a blinder, but it seems to me that Harry (who was already widely known) has shown only that he's fit for even less than some of us thought

She's already suggested as much, ThePoshUns, with the little detail about journals supposedly "found" while clearing out NottCott - as if she'd ever have been parted from them - and the comments about never having signed an NDA

However as a PP mentioned I'm sure the security services will equally have details of their own, which along with the palace bullying report mightt easily be "leaked" if she went too far

Yes - there have been a few shifts of emphasis and other changes of direction for them recently. I don't know if Meghan can still position herself as a philanthropist - she seems to have given up on that and put all her (flower-sprinkled) eggs in the basket of entrepreneurism.

Was the plan a few months ago to give Harry all the charity work? If so, things are not looking good with the scandals at African Parks and Sentebale and the problems with Invictus.

I agree with your view of Harry but I will say this for him: silly, dim, entitled twit that he seems to be, I do think he's more of a people person than Meghan. Whether it's his upbringing or his nature, he does do meeting and greeting and interacting, especially with children, very well and genuinely seems to enjoy it. I find Meghan's interactions with 'ordinary people', and again, especially children, excruciating to watch - she just cannot summon the interest in them to conduct even a couple of minutes of conversation.

There's a video from Invictus where H is getting down to organising games for the children and she is following him around, fussing and trying to grab his hand and dragging him away once she manages to get a purchase on him!!! And that's one of many examples I've seen where she shows her utter hopelessness at engaging with members of the public on any level at all.

IMHO, I am surprised at the school of thought that maintains that H would stay for the children when none of H's dad, mom and his maternal Uncle Spencer with whom H maintains links stayed for the kids.

As for H, IMHO there is nothing to be done with him...he just has not realised it yet. After Spare and whining about Nepal, any hope of any official diplomatic role is over. The scandals at various charities (African Parks, Sentebale) are yet to be resolved so more bad press may put H's ability to be a Patron at risk.

As for M, for her comparison will always steal her joy. She is a millionaire craving a billionaire lifestyle. But the math ain't mathing and will only get worse. She is in her mid40s in an industry that values youth in front of the camera and does not have the skillset to get behind the camera as evidenced by the trail of failed projects.

Trump will exhaust media oxygen for the next 3.5 years and at the end of Trump, Prince George turns 15...cue George-mania. After G, his sister C the fashion juggernaut will seize all the headlines, and L will soon follow with Louis-mania. And then, the great hunt for the next Queen Consort will ensue.

50-somethings, no matter the drama, won't be able to compete on clicks and will be dropped from the headlines and descend to oblivion. Then the real consequences of living a champagne lifestyle on a beer budget will come home to roost.

I don't know if Meghan can still position herself as a philanthropist

Not a chance, @CoffeeCantata

The whole key to philanthropy is to either have enough money yourself to make it work or sufficient integrity and "pull" to attract other benefactors, and frankly I'm seeing neither

Even the "philanthropist" tag some gave Meghan before the wedding couldn't be substantiated, and while she may perhaps have been able to develop something with RF backing that's all been trashed now that her people skills have been shown to be so utterly absent ... after all who's now going to engage her to speak for those genuinely in need when her principal interest is so obviously herself?

I think Meghan did manipulate Harry right from the beginning. He was in his mid 30s and by accounts keen to settle down. Had lost previous serious relationships partially due to his status in the Royal family.
Along comes Meghan who not only claimed to know next to nothing about Harry but had been warned off by friends not to marry him that the British press would tear her to pieces.
Right there she zoned in on two of his biggest fears. His status would always scare off women and any love interest of his would be hounded by the press.
But saviour naive Meghan loved him so much she didn't take this on-board.
Imagine recounting her friends advice to Harry let alone the whole world. It was a clear way to grind home to him that he didn't have many options and was lucky to have found Meghan.

As said previously if genders were reversed and a fairly unknown male actor said this about a female royal family princess people would clearly see the emotional abuse.

I think that if she had done the WLM stuff a few years ago - it might have flown - as she did have more positive public sentiment / interest on her side then.

If she had spent the early years after the Freedom Flight doing something 'wholesome' and 'soft' like As Ever / WLM she may have spun a better image.

Instead, however, she immersed herself deep in the bitter soup of revenge with the OW interview, NF docuseries and various other interviews (The Cut etc) and that has soaked in, created and cemented a sour, suspicious, negative persona that no brand or many consumers would want to associate with.

She has been exposed. There are many nasties in the entertainment/celeb industry that keep it hidden for a long time (Ellen etc) but MM wasnt able to. She inadvertently leaned in to the brittle, faux victim character seeking barely disguised revenge, sympathy and $$$$ and it has backfired on her. Her motivations are transparent and her nasty, bullying side has been witnessed and reported consistently and persistently for almost a decade now on both sides of the Atlantic.

Yes, going down the bitter/vengeance route was a mistake.
Especially when it was proven to be founded on lies.

Whilst I do think much of what you say might be true, I think the most important factor in all this is that Harry wanted to leave. He was harbouring a vast sense of injustice and entitlement and grudges up to his eyeballs. He didn't write Spare like that because he looked back at his childhood through Meghan's filter but because that is who he was and is. Meghan might have encouraged his grievances when they worked in her favour as a way to get him to leave, but she was building on what was already there.

This is why I think it's unfair to blame her for Harry's current situation. I don't think anyone who could help him get over his anger and grief would stick around long enough or want to marry him once they saw the true Harry. Meghan used his anger to leave and is now stuck with a grumpy man child who encouraged her that she was right to air private family matters publically, which was the worst way to find freedom imaginable. They are both victims of their fatal flaws and neither seems able or willing to do the hard work necessary to regain popularity.

Oops - didn’t mean to quote the whole post, Mrs L - sorry.

I agree with you - I wouldn’t argue with anything you say above. Tbh, I hold them equally responsible for the car-crash they’ve created but their ‘crimes’ are different, I think.

Very simply I see H as dim, spoiled, entitled, sulky, resentful, lazy, naive and full of grudges against his brother. Meghan I see as manipulative, crafty, sly, calculating, hypocritical and most annoyingly to me, utterly fake.

i don’t think that, morally, there’s anything between them! You just take you pick as to which vices are the most repellent, I suppose.

I think the most important factor in all this is that Harry wanted to leave.

I don't recall anything about PH wanting to leave the RF before Megxit.

He was desperate to find a woman who would embrace the role of his wife within the RF. His previous GFs either didnt like him, or the job, or the press etc so he couldnt attract a wife.

MM then was pushing on an open door.

He only wanted to leave once the 1/2 in 1/2 out arrangement that he prematurely announced to the world, where they would be collaborating directly with The Queen was rejected. He wanted to stay a working member of the RF - on his terms.

This decision triggered his narcisstic rage - his fragile yet bloated ego when into free-fall hence 'the flounce' and the vexatious and malicious interviews, TV series, books etc that made them $$$$ and went on for years.

None of this would have happened if he had married someone else. MM always wanted the Hollywood, A list billionaire lifestyle - she was never staying in the UK - it was always an endeavor to make $$$$ and get back to Cali. She had her own US PR agency, US legal team, US agents and finance teams in tow throughout from day 1. They would all have been advising on how much $$$ she could be making, what deals there were to be struck (driven by their own hefty cut in it) - even OW was sniffing about early doors. MM's cardinal direction compass point was always set to Cali.

He did an interview, I think it was on tv, where he mentioned wanting to leave. I don't think he would have left without someone else giving him a push but he definitely didn't enjoy royal life and absolutely hated the press way before Meghan appeared.

Sorry @CoffeeCantatai quoted you in error!

Funny that he’s constantly courting them now. I would have said doing fake tours is much worse.

I agree but consistency doesn't seem his thing. He seems perfectly blind to how hypocritical he is.

He didn’t want to leave. He was perfectly happy, he was popular, did little work, disappeared abroad when he felt like it. Expectations for him were low. I think he was more than happy being the ‘spare’.
When M came into the picture she wanted to know why they weren’t the headline, why they didn’t get the most glamorous events, why does W get all the money. So he tried to change everything, when everyone wouldn’t comply he had a massive strop.