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Thinlyveiled · 25/06/2025 09:14

Profhilodisaster · 25/06/2025 09:12

I just don't see how A and L could be working royals . They would have no idea of what it entails, most of the royals have grown up watching how their parents behave , attending royal events and sort of learn the job as they grow up. You can't just thrust 2 young adults into being a working royal with no 'training' .

Well exactly.

TheAutumnCrow · 25/06/2025 09:19

I’ve said before that I wouldn’t let H within a mile of my children. Not a mile. He’s coming across from his own words and actions as unstable, smug & self-important, vengeful & spiteful, intellectually immature, disingenuous, faux charming & manipulative. I can align specific adjectives to RL examples of interview excerpts and behaviours.

Anyway, it’s all quite the heady cocktail of toxicity, and he’d not be welcome around my family, relative or no.

It’s almost comical that his latest whinge is that he can’t help that he was born the son of King Charles.

But he won’t accept that William can’t help that he was born before Harry.

CathyorClaire · 25/06/2025 09:46

Kweenbeee · 24/06/2025 22:17

Seems a bit tasteless and premature if his Dad is healthy? Dont recall PC chirping on about plans when QE2 was in her 70s - unless he has plans to step back due to failing health.

Yes, I agree.

Something just seems a bit off when W's profile is being ratcheted up in such a seemingly determined manner.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/06/2025 09:52

Mylovelygreendress · 25/06/2025 09:12

Does he have any more court cases pending ?

Theere's the hacking one against the Mail I believe, Mylovelygreendress - wasn't this the one where there was a preliminary hearing quite recently?

NormaMajors1992coat · 25/06/2025 09:58

Vespanest · 25/06/2025 08:49

It's why Harry is so hurt, he honestly believed he could earn the money and then have another Sandringham to sort it out. He never planned or even considered that his children would be estranged by his actions. He believed his own hype of importance and I can't see how is mental health has not been impacted. but his inability to apologise or shut up means he's as much of a loose canon now as he was then.

Yes, I think he thought he and Meghan would be the ultimate A-listers, friends with the Obamas and the Clooneys, the darlings of the Oscars, Met Gala, fashion weeks, high profile sports games. Harry courtside at basketball games with Tom Cruise and Jay Z, Meghan doing working lunches with Angelina and Amal. They thought they would be billionaires spearheading global human rights campaigns, putting the RF and their fuddy duddy ways to shame with their glamour and charisma. A new enhanced category of IPP status would be invented to recognise how valuable they are to the world. Oprah would be begging for another collab but Meghan would be too busy partying with the young Hollywood set and then solving world hunger and curing all diseases, while Harry with his military experience, psychological insight and a full head of hair put an end to war. How their popularity would soar. I bet the words ‘Nobel Peace Prize’ came to mind… and oh, the imagined jealousy and fury of W+C as they sit and stew in their poxy cottage which doesn’t even have three bathrooms per person, let alone four. The RF would have no choice though, what a huge mistake to let these two go, get them back to modernise us! So they’d be falling over themselves to apologise for the sausages and the dog bowl and the lip gloss, begging H+M to appear with the family every now and then in the hope that some of their glittering success might rub off. They’d realise in time that after Charles a joint kingship would probably be for the best, if H+M could fit it in of course, and Archie and Lili probably ought to leapfrog their cousins in the LoS, because they get hugs and a daily email from their mother.

(I honestly don’t think this would be too far from the truth.)

Instead - a sorry trail of failed endeavours, Meghan now reduced to flogging mass-produced fruit spread and UPF pancake mix, but badly. While Harry wanders around Fulham and mutters about The Establishment.

And people have to ask why people discuss them!

JSMill · 25/06/2025 10:00

When I read people discussing A and L’s future, I can’t help thinking of how Princess Margaret brought up her children to be normal people, despite the fact that she herself had a reputation for being high and mighty herself. The relationship between her dcs and QEII is just the same as W and A and L but there was never any question of them performing any royal duties. As a result of her approach, they both have led fulfilling and successful lives. It probably didn’t hurt they apparently inherited their father’s creative genes.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/06/2025 10:11

Profhilodisaster · 25/06/2025 09:12

I just don't see how A and L could be working royals . They would have no idea of what it entails, most of the royals have grown up watching how their parents behave , attending royal events and sort of learn the job as they grow up. You can't just thrust 2 young adults into being a working royal with no 'training' .

Prince Andrew was the spare, his daughters were told they would not be working royals despite Andrew advocating for a role for them, if 2 Princesses granddaughters of the late Queen who were brought up in the royal family and royal household were told no it just goes to show how thick and entitled Harry is to think that the estranged American niece and nephew of the future King who would be utterly clueless on UK culture, let alone life in the royal family would have any future as life as a working royal is utterly ludicrous and delusional, and why would they or their parents want anything to do with a toxic, racist institution that apparently drove their mother to attempting suicide? What on earth could be their motivation?..….. 🤔💰💰 💰

NewAgeNewMe · 25/06/2025 10:53

JSMill · 25/06/2025 10:00

When I read people discussing A and L’s future, I can’t help thinking of how Princess Margaret brought up her children to be normal people, despite the fact that she herself had a reputation for being high and mighty herself. The relationship between her dcs and QEII is just the same as W and A and L but there was never any question of them performing any royal duties. As a result of her approach, they both have led fulfilling and successful lives. It probably didn’t hurt they apparently inherited their father’s creative genes.

Princess Margaret also said her children weren’t royal, their aunt just happened to be Queen.

ThePoshUns · 25/06/2025 11:15

Great post @NormaMajors1992coat

CoffeeCantata · 25/06/2025 11:18

ThePoshUns · 25/06/2025 11:15

Great post @NormaMajors1992coat

Seconded!

Calliopespa · 25/06/2025 11:23

MrsFinkelstein · 20/06/2025 20:51

As ever, it's a sweet nod to her SIL

Whenever I decide to go and have a good old swinging session I choose a dress like that.

CoffeeCantata · 25/06/2025 11:26

If they'd just taken their money after Megxit and bought a home somewhere in the US less flashy but with land, and generally kept out of the glare of publicity, they'd have had far more options. They'd have kept their dignity and a bit of mystique (so important for royalty, and for A-list celebs - the Clooneys manage to keep theirs!) and would have had people seeking them out, not having to chase publicity all the time. If they'd behaved with discretion, modesty and (awful expression but you know what I mean...) class, things could have been so different and their children's options would have been much more open. Without the tacky interview, book and documentary there would easily have been a way back, or a way to be involved in some royal activities.

Harry could have kept his connection with Invictus in much better shape and retained some of the goodwill he had when those evil grey-suited men controlled his image.

If, if, if....but that would have taken Meghan and Harry to be sensible, well-balanced, emotionally secure, self-aware and intelligent people.

CoffeeCantata · 25/06/2025 11:37

Thinlyveiled · 25/06/2025 07:51

Yet Meghan was very disparaging about her own wedding. The two of them are such massive massive hypocrites.

Another narcissistic red flag, I think!

It reminds me of Motherland when Amanda ordered Anne and the others to arrange a party for her birthday, and then, when she got on stage with the mic, made a great play of claiming she hadn't wanted any fuss at all, and it was all a bit embarrassing.

That was Meghan's attitude to her wedding - she and Harry pushed for more and more prestige (not to be outdone by William and Catherine) and had over £30 million spent on them. Then Meghan claimed it was all a silly fuss for the peasants, and didn't mean anything to her. Wish she'd mentioned that before!

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 25/06/2025 11:58

I don't think that the parallels are as strong with Diana as they are with the Abdication crisis.

Diana's "controversies" were about her relationships as a single woman, and her slightly anti-establishment causes.

H&M are far more similar to Edward and Wallis in erms of their risk profile.

NewAgeNewMe · 25/06/2025 12:23

I’ve read ‘The Traitor King’ the parallels are there. A good read and Harry and the DoW are not that dissimilar.

Vespanest · 25/06/2025 12:48

The People magazine running with the "subtle" nod to Princess Diana and the rose wine. It's just bad taste in so many ways especially considering how she died. Doria has well and truly served her purpose. I do have concerns for Lilibet as she is so going to be pushed as the reincarnation. It's already happening and it's so unhealthy, it will keep future psychiatrists well paid. Even Diana herself would fail in matching the expectations of the Princess Diana legacy.

IdaGlossop · 25/06/2025 12:50

CoffeeCantata · 25/06/2025 11:37

Another narcissistic red flag, I think!

It reminds me of Motherland when Amanda ordered Anne and the others to arrange a party for her birthday, and then, when she got on stage with the mic, made a great play of claiming she hadn't wanted any fuss at all, and it was all a bit embarrassing.

That was Meghan's attitude to her wedding - she and Harry pushed for more and more prestige (not to be outdone by William and Catherine) and had over £30 million spent on them. Then Meghan claimed it was all a silly fuss for the peasants, and didn't mean anything to her. Wish she'd mentioned that before!

Dissing their £30 million wedding was a lesson in how to insult 65 million people in 10 seconds flat. Quite an achievement.

ThePoshUns · 25/06/2025 12:52

Yes people will never forget that, there was a lot of goodwill towards them on the day of their wedding, all thrown back in our faces.

JSMill · 25/06/2025 12:55

ThePoshUns · 25/06/2025 12:52

Yes people will never forget that, there was a lot of goodwill towards them on the day of their wedding, all thrown back in our faces.

To be fair, it wasn’t H that belittled the wedding, that was all M and he looked very awkward. She has no respect for the British people, despite the warm welcome she got when she was in public.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/06/2025 12:56

IdaGlossop · 25/06/2025 12:50

Dissing their £30 million wedding was a lesson in how to insult 65 million people in 10 seconds flat. Quite an achievement.

I wonder if she would have felt the same if they had been allowed Westminster Abbey, the tiara she wanted and not having to have George and Charlotte in the bridal party ?

NormaMajors1992coat · 25/06/2025 12:57

IdaGlossop · 25/06/2025 12:50

Dissing their £30 million wedding was a lesson in how to insult 65 million people in 10 seconds flat. Quite an achievement.

Not to mention revealing that the Archbishop of Canterbury had performed an illegal marriage, which he then had to deny publicly 🤦‍♀️

Uricon2 · 25/06/2025 12:59

Initally wanting the Abbey or St Pauls (as reported by H himself in Spare) does not add weight to a claim an aversion to "spectacle", does it? I believe people should wear what they want to get married in but full on white dress, veil and tiara as a divorced woman also does not indicate shrinking from the spotlight.

IdaGlossop · 25/06/2025 13:07

ThePoshUns · 25/06/2025 12:52

Yes people will never forget that, there was a lot of goodwill towards them on the day of their wedding, all thrown back in our faces.

I was genuinely moved by the wedding. Now I feel we were all deceived, including hapless Harry.

IdaGlossop · 25/06/2025 13:09

NormaMajors1992coat · 25/06/2025 12:57

Not to mention revealing that the Archbishop of Canterbury had performed an illegal marriage, which he then had to deny publicly 🤦‍♀️

That was the moment I decided she was a fruitcake. She made herself look ridiculous.

Thinlyveiled · 25/06/2025 13:20

JSMill · 25/06/2025 12:55

To be fair, it wasn’t H that belittled the wedding, that was all M and he looked very awkward. She has no respect for the British people, despite the warm welcome she got when she was in public.

He should have said something then , just as he should have when she mocked having to curtsy to the Queen.

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