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The royal family

Harry v NGN 2

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 23/01/2025 00:40

I don't think we're done talking - and I never start threads!

As you were!

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boredashellbythiscrap · 25/01/2025 19:37

Anyone that has a different opinion to
@mainecooncatonahottinroof is classed as a Harry and Megan supporter by her.

BemusedAmerican · 25/01/2025 19:47

Harry's on his way to alienating his adopted country. A questionable move in my view.

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 19:48

boredashellbythiscrap · 25/01/2025 19:37

Anyone that has a different opinion to
@mainecooncatonahottinroof is classed as a Harry and Megan supporter by her.

Yes I have guessed that after she said I was a Harry supporter.

NoDragons · 25/01/2025 19:49

andIsaid · 25/01/2025 17:11

Do you wonder why the NGN settled ?

Not at all. I think they were absolutely delighted. I do believe that had it gone to court it would have affected them far more than a quick apology and writing a cheque.

I am struggling to understand why posters can't see this. Believing that Harry (to use a pp word) folded and believing that NGN did bad things is not incongruent.

I believe if Harry had the courage of his convictions then a lot would have been revealed in a court case.
I believe NGN would rather pay and offer a vague apology than go to court.

I also understand why Harry didn't want to risk financial ruin.

But I do not think, that after his grandstanding, that he got the 'win' some posters are keen to claim. He did not hold anyone to account and nothing new was revealed (a PI may have done unlawful things whilst supplying details to the Sun is hardly groundbreaking news)

The facts are

Harry wanted a court case
NGN wanted to settle.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/01/2025 19:52

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 19:31

@mainecooncatonahottinroof And please do not stereotype me. I am not a Harry supporter.

The sky isn't blue either.

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/01/2025 19:53

boredashellbythiscrap · 25/01/2025 19:37

Anyone that has a different opinion to
@mainecooncatonahottinroof is classed as a Harry and Megan supporter by her.

Just own it!

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JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 19:54

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/01/2025 19:54

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 19:48

Yes I have guessed that after she said I was a Harry supporter.

Well you are hardly balanced and neutral now are you? Especially given all the swipes you've made towards other posters!

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/01/2025 19:54

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Ditto.

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NoDragons · 25/01/2025 19:58

Sadly lots of children are bereaved, often in traumatic circumstances, where people who should be blamed are not.

Like mental health, many suffer with no support, and no means of getting any.

The use of it like a trump card sickens me.

wordler · 25/01/2025 20:20

TheCrowPeople · 25/01/2025 16:01

I think the reason there aren't more mild-mannered republicans (like me!) in the UK is they're concerned we'd get The Establishment all over again, but a in a more venally political form like Tony Blair, or some sort of populist like Alexander 'Boris' Johnson, or a worse nutjob with more £millions than principles.

The Royal Family so far has managed to maintain a facade of training up the heir, duty, and suitable levels decorum in the immediate line of succession, just enough to compare favourably with the more political or populist possibilities. And I accept it'll stay that way while those vibes are out there.

Had Andrew or Harry been born first ... then who knows? Although I daresay they may have been reined in and sat on a bit better than they were.

I think I’m just a few points down the scale from you - consider myself constitutional monarchy lite.

So I like the tradition and history and stewardship of the land and assets like the Royal collection and while the monarch and heir are on the right side of duty and good works then I think it works best for the UK.

But if we were facing a known disaster like an Andrew or a Harry then I would skip down to mild republican faster than you can say God Save The K…

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 20:21

The BBC reported that NGN agreed to pay both sides’ legal costs, which were estimated to be around 10 million pounds. And that Harry will receive an eight figure settlement. Plus the public apology.

NotaRealHousewife · 25/01/2025 20:24

That really isn't a lot of money for NGN

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 20:24

I find it very distasteful to put Andrew, an alleged rapist of sex trafficked girls, as similar to Harry. They are not.
If Andrew had been born an ordinary working man, he would be now serving a lengthy prison sentence.

IcedPurple · 25/01/2025 20:29

NotaRealHousewife · 25/01/2025 20:24

That really isn't a lot of money for NGN

And that's assuming its true, which I would not assume at all.

Only a very small people of number know how much the settlement was worth, and they are legally bound not to divulge it. Any 'reports' are simply rumours.

Also, since neither side 'lost', despite protestations to the contrary from some, there will be no obligation to pay the other side's legal fees. One lump sum will be paid, and none of us have a clue how that much that is.

Besides, it wasn't about money but accountability for Harry. Wasn't it?

wordler · 25/01/2025 20:33

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 20:24

I find it very distasteful to put Andrew, an alleged rapist of sex trafficked girls, as similar to Harry. They are not.
If Andrew had been born an ordinary working man, he would be now serving a lengthy prison sentence.

If that was to me - I don’t consider their conduct to be similar - Andrew has clearly done a lot of unsavory and to all appearances illegal stuff over many years.

But I don’t think Harry has the character and temperament to be a reliable head of state.

Harry has shown himself to be too indiscreet, too impulsive, and has admitted he doesn’t have a sound grasp reality when recounting his memories. Not in anyway suitable for an international diplomat and head of state.

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 20:33

@IcedPurple For the BBC to say NGN are paying both sides costs, they must have pretty solid evidence.
All the rumours are that Harry is also being given an eight figure settlement. That makes sense as the later people to settle were given £10 million settlement. Harry will not have been given less, and probably more.

Serenster · 25/01/2025 20:44

It’s mostly like he will have been one sum though, which was made up of a contribution to costs plus a settlemt amount. Not that he got money towards his costs and then a separate eight-figure settlement sum on top of that.

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 20:45

@Serenster Not what BBC are saying

NotaRealHousewife · 25/01/2025 20:47

@IcedPurple well that's what he said but erm that seemed to change

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/01/2025 20:48

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 20:24

I find it very distasteful to put Andrew, an alleged rapist of sex trafficked girls, as similar to Harry. They are not.
If Andrew had been born an ordinary working man, he would be now serving a lengthy prison sentence.

He wouldn't because he would never have been in Epstein's orbit!

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Serenster · 25/01/2025 20:49

Well, the BBC say here:

The BBC understands the settlements to both Prince Harry and former Labour deputy leader Lord Tom Watson have cost NGN more than £10m in pay outs and legal fees.

So they think “more than £10m” covers NGN’s payments to both Harry and Tom Watson.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wn1k6drqo

File photo of Prince Harry on a blue background, wearing a white open-neck shirt and a dark blazer.

Prince Harry: Sun publisher to pay 'substantial' damages in settlement

News Group Newspapers offers an "unequivocal apology" to the Duke of Sussex for "serious intrusion".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wn1k6drqo

JoyousGreyOrca · 25/01/2025 20:49

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 25/01/2025 20:48

He wouldn't because he would never have been in Epstein's orbit!

Rapists of sex trafficked girls are likely to find alternative victims if they are mixing in a different orbit.

Mylovelygreendress · 25/01/2025 20:50

andIsaid · 25/01/2025 18:11

That is just mean spirited.

There was a difference in age.

William was well ensconced in school by that point, with a network of friends etc.

And clearly, William had an ability to function in a way that his younger brother did not.

I am glad for Prince William, but I cannot chastise or evaluate Prince Harry using him as a comparison.

William is only 2 years older than Harry .

IcedPurple · 25/01/2025 20:52

Serenster · 25/01/2025 20:49

Well, the BBC say here:

The BBC understands the settlements to both Prince Harry and former Labour deputy leader Lord Tom Watson have cost NGN more than £10m in pay outs and legal fees.

So they think “more than £10m” covers NGN’s payments to both Harry and Tom Watson.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wn1k6drqo

If that's the entire settlement fee for both claimaints, including legal fees, then it will barely cover Sherborne's hair gel expenses!

Seriously, Harry's legal bills will surely be several million, won't they? So if these figures are accurate, and who knows if they are, that is far from a 'massive settlement'.

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