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HunterdeButts · 14/12/2024 21:24

Sunblessed · 14/12/2024 08:06

He’s seemingly developing a tv show- I think it’s about someone who works in the press office for the palace. Or something along those lines

so after he said he wasn’t focusing his career on the RF anymore, he’s now developing tv shows…..set around the RF

He wrote an (as yet unpublished) book called "Royal Spin" that are being picked up by Universal for adaption for TV. Described as follows in People:

"With the British monarchy reeling from a wave of scandals, young American politico Lauren O’Connell is plucked from the White House to breathe new life into the Buckingham Palace communications team and help end the royal family’s streak of bad press. But in an institution steeped in tradition and strict protocol, change isn’t easy — or welcome. It turns out the Royal Household can be just as messy and confusing as Capitol Hill," a logline reads.
"Faced with never-ending culture clashes, displeased royal aides with intimidating titles, and risky new love interests, this fish out of water is determined to prove she’s got what it takes — and might even find herself in the process," it continues.

I'm going to guess they will cast a mixed race woman for the role, with a William lookalike as the love interest 😂

TurtlesDoNotPetsMake · 14/12/2024 21:25

Veinticinco de Mayo is a town in Argentina.

wordler · 14/12/2024 22:43

I have a lot of sympathy re the awkward hands thing because I have struggled with that when public speaking or in front of an audience. But you can get training to learn to deal with it.

You can see that Kate’s had a lot of training in this area and sometimes it makes her look a bit too formal or stilted. The hands down by your sides looks a little unnatural for civilians as we are more used to seeing poses like that for those in uniform.

The bonus though is that it prevents photographers catching you mid flail or people editing dozens of clips of you grabbing onto people.

You have to be able to admit to yourself that you need help though to accept the training - I don’t think Meghan admits to herself that she needs lessons in anything.

Galdownunder · 14/12/2024 23:58

Her hands remind me of animals - completely separate from her - like they’re out of her control. You see her in videos and they’re out and hanging then moving then back then clutch! It’s so odd.

HeddaGarbled · 15/12/2024 01:24

She can’t be still, can she? You see so many of these clips where she’s turning from person to person, smile on and off, hand clapping or picking random things up, clutching onto people, moving them and herself about. It really is quite odd. I don’t think I’ve seen it so frequently from any other person in the public eye.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 15/12/2024 07:13

cavea · 14/12/2024 08:17

@GiveMeSpanakopita I wonder, from a PR perspective, if the not promoting Polo is to prevent viewer fatigue, for want of a better phrase.

It could be a very strategic plan to effectively position the upcoming cooking show, which we are hearing is going to be the springboard for her home product business. They need to maintain their positioning for that target market and personally promoting Polo might dilute the impact they could have if they went for personal promo for the cooking show. It is already on the back foot, with the delays in both releasing the show and the debacle the launch of American Riveria Orchard has become.

Their brand positioning has taken so many serious hits already, that doing the rounds of the morning and late night shows for Polo could really mess with any semblance of brand credibility they are trying to build for when the time comes to do all of that for the cooking show. I can't think of any other reason neither Netflix nor H&M are promoting it. They probably had to revise their strategy when they realised the cooking show was not ready to launch ahead of the Polo show. The cooking show will certainly be of interest to a wider audience than Polo ever would, so it seems it's the wrong order for both shows.

Not at all, no, this would go against everything ever done in the world of media marketing, and would be completely counterproductive.

If you sign a content and distribution deal with NF, or any company, the company will promote every project in its own right. Every single one. Especially if the content is as disparate in subject matter as H&M's has been. They've had a biographical series, a show about veterans, a show about leadership and a show about a sport. Cooking to come. On paper these will all appeal to very different audiences and so NF would, in the normal course of business, be promoting every single one heavily to different audience segments in order to maximise the number of new subs across different audiences. That is how the business model works. That is why I'm saying that the lack of promo for Polo is commercially counter-productive. The only reason I can think of for why NF is being so coy about Polo is that they fear that promoting it might do more harm to their business than good. I don't know why they would think that but have theorised it might be due to fears of bad PR on the animal rights thing. Or maybe NF execs were disappointed by the final edit.

I also disagree with a previous poster who said that it looks like NF is throwing its weight behind the cooking show. I'd say the opposite seems to be happening. The show was filmed in summer '24, NF does not sit on material, again their model is predicated on flogging their top line which means pushing out new content asap. If they wanted to throw weight behind it they would have put it out in Q4 2024 to take advantage of the US Thanksgiving-Christmas period which is when cooking shows and grocery spend it highest. Not in calendar Q1 which is the high period for diet/health journey/fitness material.

Of all their NF projects, on paper I think that the cooking show has the least chance of mass commercial appeal. I've posted why I think this at length on another thread but to summarise it's because the food/lifestyle/home-making market in the US is highly fragmented and regionalised, and the current trend is towards tradcore/homesteading, which I don't believe Meghan would fit at all.

Thoughtsareswirling · 15/12/2024 07:44

She’s got to decide who she actually is and try and stick to that line. Is she a feminist championing women’s issues and rights ? Is she a ‘humanitarian’? Is she someone who lives to cook and a great mother? Is she part of the greatest couple ever heard of , madly in love and moving in synch with her hubby/clutching his hand and propelling him around the room? Is she an actress/performer? Is her role to inform and guide everyone else less blessed by special insight and understanding? Is her role to make jam ? Because I don’t think she actually has a clue who she is in real life. I appreciate that it’s possible to be many things simultaneously, but I think she’s a total chameleon who just makes things up as she goes along.

Greenbretonstripes22 · 15/12/2024 08:15

Thoughtsareswirling · 15/12/2024 07:44

She’s got to decide who she actually is and try and stick to that line. Is she a feminist championing women’s issues and rights ? Is she a ‘humanitarian’? Is she someone who lives to cook and a great mother? Is she part of the greatest couple ever heard of , madly in love and moving in synch with her hubby/clutching his hand and propelling him around the room? Is she an actress/performer? Is her role to inform and guide everyone else less blessed by special insight and understanding? Is her role to make jam ? Because I don’t think she actually has a clue who she is in real life. I appreciate that it’s possible to be many things simultaneously, but I think she’s a total chameleon who just makes things up as she goes along.

Or maybe she is just muddling along like the rest of us fhs trying to work it out? Nothing wrong with that. And it is possible to have several things going on at the same times.

No one is perfect. Not even members of the RF. It’s quite easy if you are born in to royalty and great wealth to have a very strong and secure sense of identity. Not so easy when you are moving between different worlds.

Scrambledbeans · 15/12/2024 10:09

Never forget their promise in Covid for Archewell to be the true source of information people could trust. Mad.

cavea · 15/12/2024 10:31

and using grassroots media, LOL, that pivoted very quickly to US tabloids

WinterCrow · 15/12/2024 18:57

If she's just 'muddling along like the rest of us' maybe H&M should stop endlessly bigging her up with all the crap about 'my magnificent wife' (from H) and 'my philanthropy' (from M), and put the lid on M's very publicly 'investing' in exploitative ventures like the Cesta bags (scandal alert: see today's exposé of the below-poverty-line pay of the women workers).

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/meghan-markle-backed-cesta-collective-accused-paying-rwandan-women-pennies-700-bags-1729545

Prince Harry and wife Meghan Markle were involved in a "near catastrophic car chase" involving paparazzi in New York late on May 16, 2023, a spokesperson for the couple said May 17

Meghan Markle-Backed Luxury Bag Company Accused of Exploiting Rwandan Women

Meghan Markle-backed Cesta Collective faces allegations of exploiting Rwandan women, who are paid as little as 10p an hour to craft £700 luxury handbags.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/meghan-markle-backed-cesta-collective-accused-paying-rwandan-women-pennies-700-bags-1729545

Uricon2 · 15/12/2024 19:12

Thanks @WinterCrow I saw this and really think a great deal more due diligence was needed, clearly, because this is a scandal.

From the Daily Mail

'Until September, Cesta's website had boasted the company was 'proud to pay 500-700 per cent times the national average salary of Rwanda' – a claim that was removed some time after Meghan's investment was announced. After this was queried by the MoS, the company's lawyers said the change came as 'a reflection of their commitment to refining how they communicate'.'

ETA if anyone can explain to me what "refining how they communicate" actually means in this context, I'd be grateful.

Uricon2 · 15/12/2024 19:17

The sad thing is that this was a perfect opportunity to give women in poverty a real and tangible lift that could make a true difference, but no, pay them a pittance and shout your virtue from the rooftops. Awful. Nauseating, not just Meghan but everyone involved.

SilverBlueRabbit · 15/12/2024 19:23

Uricon2 · 15/12/2024 19:12

Thanks @WinterCrow I saw this and really think a great deal more due diligence was needed, clearly, because this is a scandal.

From the Daily Mail

'Until September, Cesta's website had boasted the company was 'proud to pay 500-700 per cent times the national average salary of Rwanda' – a claim that was removed some time after Meghan's investment was announced. After this was queried by the MoS, the company's lawyers said the change came as 'a reflection of their commitment to refining how they communicate'.'

ETA if anyone can explain to me what "refining how they communicate" actually means in this context, I'd be grateful.

Edited

I think it means that they did not actually do the hard work of working out what they were getting involved with other than a nice little soundbite that they thought made them look good, and now it's all come to light (and stuff they and their minders should have clocked earlier on) they would like for it to all go away, because we who question them are just stupid haterz. And racist to boot.

JADS · 15/12/2024 19:35

Uricon2 · 15/12/2024 19:17

The sad thing is that this was a perfect opportunity to give women in poverty a real and tangible lift that could make a true difference, but no, pay them a pittance and shout your virtue from the rooftops. Awful. Nauseating, not just Meghan but everyone involved.

The piece work aspect of reminds me of Victorian women in the East end of London making matchboxes.

I agree it was such a good opportunity to lift these women up, but it sounds really exploitative. The quotes from Cesta sound absolutely heartless. There may be some DM spin here, but it doesn't look good.

Uricon2 · 15/12/2024 19:41

The irony is that they could pay the women artisan makers properly and still make good profit on those bags. There seems to be a choice not to.

comfortandjoyy · 15/12/2024 19:48

Uricon2 · 15/12/2024 19:41

The irony is that they could pay the women artisan makers properly and still make good profit on those bags. There seems to be a choice not to.

I think this situation is really very tragic all round as this expose will likely get the brand cancelled/blacklisted as unethical so that it commercially fails and those ladies lose their livelihoods.

I cant see them paying them more and spinning that sufficiently to save the brand.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 15/12/2024 19:48

This is really disappointing to read

stripeyshutters · 15/12/2024 20:22

wordler · 14/12/2024 22:43

I have a lot of sympathy re the awkward hands thing because I have struggled with that when public speaking or in front of an audience. But you can get training to learn to deal with it.

You can see that Kate’s had a lot of training in this area and sometimes it makes her look a bit too formal or stilted. The hands down by your sides looks a little unnatural for civilians as we are more used to seeing poses like that for those in uniform.

The bonus though is that it prevents photographers catching you mid flail or people editing dozens of clips of you grabbing onto people.

You have to be able to admit to yourself that you need help though to accept the training - I don’t think Meghan admits to herself that she needs lessons in anything.

But she was an actress so wasn't doing that all the time in Suits was she ? I don't know as have never seen it as it's not my kind of thing.
It's like a nervous energy thing.

stripeyshutters · 15/12/2024 20:23

HeddaGarbled · 14/12/2024 19:35

25th May is a national holiday in Argentina

Yet she never spent a 25th May there while in Argentina

flapjackfairy · 15/12/2024 20:26

Uricon2 · 15/12/2024 19:12

Thanks @WinterCrow I saw this and really think a great deal more due diligence was needed, clearly, because this is a scandal.

From the Daily Mail

'Until September, Cesta's website had boasted the company was 'proud to pay 500-700 per cent times the national average salary of Rwanda' – a claim that was removed some time after Meghan's investment was announced. After this was queried by the MoS, the company's lawyers said the change came as 'a reflection of their commitment to refining how they communicate'.'

ETA if anyone can explain to me what "refining how they communicate" actually means in this context, I'd be grateful.

Edited

it is basically a polite way of saying that they have been caught out and forced to tell the truth

HunterdeButts · 15/12/2024 20:42

Uricon2 · 15/12/2024 19:12

Thanks @WinterCrow I saw this and really think a great deal more due diligence was needed, clearly, because this is a scandal.

From the Daily Mail

'Until September, Cesta's website had boasted the company was 'proud to pay 500-700 per cent times the national average salary of Rwanda' – a claim that was removed some time after Meghan's investment was announced. After this was queried by the MoS, the company's lawyers said the change came as 'a reflection of their commitment to refining how they communicate'.'

ETA if anyone can explain to me what "refining how they communicate" actually means in this context, I'd be grateful.

Edited

It means, "We have now stopped lying."

CathyorClaire · 15/12/2024 21:13

Appalling, yes.

But Rachel has form for unethical investments:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9433581/Meghan-Markle-coffee-firm-bought-oat-milk-company-Chinas-police-state-Xinjiang-province.html

BasiliskStare · 15/12/2024 22:16

If I am honest , and if these reports are true , I think Meghan wanted to be seen as a business angel for womens' businesses but has not done the due diligence herself nor have any of her staff. If so - just lazy.

Baital · 15/12/2024 22:26

But that has always been the issue, surely? The gap between what is claimed and what is shown.

If she had been the feminist activist then I would have been cheering her on. But over and over again it has become apparent that the claims aren't genuine.

I don't think someone who was a genuine feminist activist would have chosen to 'hit the ground running' as a working royal. There would have been too many questions about how that fitted in with a hereditary monarchy. It could perhaps have worked, with carefully selected causes over a period of time.

But the 'most amazing love story of our generation' and 'fairytale wedding' vibes weren't exactly feminist activist 101