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The royal family

The revolving EXIT door of employees chez Sussex continues

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Thedom · 04/10/2024 05:51

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13922531/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-global-press-secretary-announces-major-job-change.html

Ashley was approached by other clients who were seeking the high-quality counsel she has provided to the Sussexes.

'High quality counsel' that's a bit of a stretch! she should have left when she originally quit, they clearly paid her to stay on at that time.

It's really lousy timing for this announcement, immediately after the employee bullying disclosures, and the spin they are trying to put on it is amusing. Likely the retention package expired at a very inconvenient time and she was not staying a minute longer as their employee.

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AskingQuestions45 · 06/10/2024 14:08

IcedPurple · 06/10/2024 14:01

I think Meghan is very uncomfortable around people, especially people richer and more famous than her. Harry is good at interacting with just about anyone, at least for short periods. He'll have been trained in that since childhood. But Meghan always comes across as tense and awkward in social situations where she's not in control.

I agree with this.

smilesy · 06/10/2024 14:25

IcedPurple · 06/10/2024 14:01

I think Meghan is very uncomfortable around people, especially people richer and more famous than her. Harry is good at interacting with just about anyone, at least for short periods. He'll have been trained in that since childhood. But Meghan always comes across as tense and awkward in social situations where she's not in control.

She also seems to lose interest in any event where she isn’t in control or the centre of attention. See also Garden Party where they left early, and Trooping the Colour on the balcony where she was turning round and which she subsequently declared was “colourful” in a (imo) rather lame joke

catin8oots · 06/10/2024 14:31

She's 100% had a bleph

BigAnne · 06/10/2024 14:45

I reckon Kelly is raging.

FloofPaws · 06/10/2024 14:53

So she attended as Kelly's plus one?
FFS why would anyone over shadow their friend by going first on the red carpet 🤯
I'm thinking she left as there was no place at the table for her!

CoffeeCantata · 06/10/2024 15:35

smilesy · 06/10/2024 14:25

She also seems to lose interest in any event where she isn’t in control or the centre of attention. See also Garden Party where they left early, and Trooping the Colour on the balcony where she was turning round and which she subsequently declared was “colourful” in a (imo) rather lame joke

I agree. I don't like Meghan, but I've seen enough of her behaviour to believe that it's something she probably can't help - the woman just does not know what to do with herself, physically or in any other sense, or how to comport herself when she is not the centre of attention. Hence we get the seal clapping, the barging in front and other weirder behaviours such as talking to herself. She doesn't know how to be still and calm and just chill. And the simpering to the camera - it must be conditioning from her upbringing and 'career'.

I think Meghan only understands the world in terms of outward/surface appearances. It's all about the optics, for her.

Theonewhogotaway · 06/10/2024 15:35

Oh god, if she attended as a plus one and only walked the red carpet and didn’t attend the event that’s so utterly cringe worthy. She properly went for it in her red dress and barging ahead as well. Having to be called back to Kelly. Wonder if her agency sorted it out.

but things are bad if this is really just the stunt that’s happened.

StrawberryWasp · 06/10/2024 15:42

I find the comments in the Daily mail article about differences in parenting interesting.

Keeping the children hidden within a mansion may be possible with babies but the older they get the total lack of sightings of these children gets odd. Children need to be out and about in the world experiencing things.

It sounds like it's Harry who wants to keep them totally hidden and not Meghan. It also says she's fed up with his war on the press.

Makes Harry sound paranoid and difficult to live with and Meghan the one who wants some normality for the kids.
Seems plausible.

Also the stories about them working separately seem to position her as a business woman and him as more statesman/ knock off royal. These roles actually sound like what each of them would like to do and it would make sense for this separate direction.

Only, his stuff earns no money, he's going to be relying on her to bring the money in somehow. If I was her that would quickly piss me off.
He's probably lucky her business ventures are working out so far, otherwise she'd probably dump the paranoid sulky prince and go it alone. Except her business ventures rely on his royalty...oh what a mess they've made.

Needanewname42 · 06/10/2024 15:54

Going to an event just to walk the red carpet is beyond bazaar. Obviously it's been done for exposure but it's weird.

I can't even work out how that went as a conversation with her friend. I'd be pissed off if I'd invited someone to something and they didn't actually stay for the event.

Theonewhogotaway · 06/10/2024 15:55

StrawberryWasp · 06/10/2024 15:42

I find the comments in the Daily mail article about differences in parenting interesting.

Keeping the children hidden within a mansion may be possible with babies but the older they get the total lack of sightings of these children gets odd. Children need to be out and about in the world experiencing things.

It sounds like it's Harry who wants to keep them totally hidden and not Meghan. It also says she's fed up with his war on the press.

Makes Harry sound paranoid and difficult to live with and Meghan the one who wants some normality for the kids.
Seems plausible.

Also the stories about them working separately seem to position her as a business woman and him as more statesman/ knock off royal. These roles actually sound like what each of them would like to do and it would make sense for this separate direction.

Only, his stuff earns no money, he's going to be relying on her to bring the money in somehow. If I was her that would quickly piss me off.
He's probably lucky her business ventures are working out so far, otherwise she'd probably dump the paranoid sulky prince and go it alone. Except her business ventures rely on his royalty...oh what a mess they've made.

What business ventures does Megan have that are working out and brining in money?

Mylovelygreendress · 06/10/2024 15:55

@StrawberryWasp i read that Meghan wants them out and about but Harry doesn’t want them photographed.
The cynic in me thinks that Meghan would like a few pap shots of her being the doting parent .

Theonewhogotaway · 06/10/2024 15:56

Needanewname42 · 06/10/2024 15:54

Going to an event just to walk the red carpet is beyond bazaar. Obviously it's been done for exposure but it's weird.

I can't even work out how that went as a conversation with her friend. I'd be pissed off if I'd invited someone to something and they didn't actually stay for the event.

No I think it’s more she’s not invited to the event. I assume her agency sorted it.

AskingQuestions45 · 06/10/2024 15:56

StrawberryWasp · 06/10/2024 15:42

I find the comments in the Daily mail article about differences in parenting interesting.

Keeping the children hidden within a mansion may be possible with babies but the older they get the total lack of sightings of these children gets odd. Children need to be out and about in the world experiencing things.

It sounds like it's Harry who wants to keep them totally hidden and not Meghan. It also says she's fed up with his war on the press.

Makes Harry sound paranoid and difficult to live with and Meghan the one who wants some normality for the kids.
Seems plausible.

Also the stories about them working separately seem to position her as a business woman and him as more statesman/ knock off royal. These roles actually sound like what each of them would like to do and it would make sense for this separate direction.

Only, his stuff earns no money, he's going to be relying on her to bring the money in somehow. If I was her that would quickly piss me off.
He's probably lucky her business ventures are working out so far, otherwise she'd probably dump the paranoid sulky prince and go it alone. Except her business ventures rely on his royalty...oh what a mess they've made.

What business ventures? I wasn’t aware of any.

Theonewhogotaway · 06/10/2024 15:57

AskingQuestions45 · 06/10/2024 15:56

What business ventures? I wasn’t aware of any.

No me neither, the comment has really confused me. What business ventures does Megan have that are sustaining them and make Harry lucky?

StrawberryWasp · 06/10/2024 15:58

Theonewhogotaway · 06/10/2024 15:55

What business ventures does Megan have that are working out and brining in money?

None. But that's what she wants to be seen as.
She's a business woman in the same way Harry is a statesman.
In his head.

It's the next nonsensical positioning of themselves and their separate ventures.

Mylovelygreendress · 06/10/2024 15:59

It’s 7 months since ARO was launched and all we have seen are a few jars of jam and some dog biscuits . Her Instagram page has lost thousands of followers , there have been issues with the Trademark and rumours suggest the cooking show was poorly received by a test audience .
What business ventures does she have which are generating income ?

StrawberryWasp · 06/10/2024 16:01

StrawberryWasp · 06/10/2024 15:42

I find the comments in the Daily mail article about differences in parenting interesting.

Keeping the children hidden within a mansion may be possible with babies but the older they get the total lack of sightings of these children gets odd. Children need to be out and about in the world experiencing things.

It sounds like it's Harry who wants to keep them totally hidden and not Meghan. It also says she's fed up with his war on the press.

Makes Harry sound paranoid and difficult to live with and Meghan the one who wants some normality for the kids.
Seems plausible.

Also the stories about them working separately seem to position her as a business woman and him as more statesman/ knock off royal. These roles actually sound like what each of them would like to do and it would make sense for this separate direction.

Only, his stuff earns no money, he's going to be relying on her to bring the money in somehow. If I was her that would quickly piss me off.
He's probably lucky her business ventures are working out so far, otherwise she'd probably dump the paranoid sulky prince and go it alone. Except her business ventures rely on his royalty...oh what a mess they've made.

This should say lucky her business ventures aren't working out 😁

Sorry for the confusion.
Can't work out how to edit.

Needanewname42 · 06/10/2024 16:02

Theonewhogotaway · 06/10/2024 15:56

No I think it’s more she’s not invited to the event. I assume her agency sorted it.

That's even more weird. The event organisers must feel used by her?

Her friend must also feel used, it's like having a pushy pal that wants to come to something they aren't invited to and doesn't take no for an answer.

Thedom · 06/10/2024 16:02

His charity personal appearances may not earn him any money, or not a huge amount anyway, but he has inheritances in the 10's of millions, likely very well invested, he is the one who brought in the huge payday from Netflix and Spare, i don't think Meghan will ever manage to match the type of finances Harry has brought to their marriage.

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MummyJ12 · 06/10/2024 16:06

Mylovelygreendress · 06/10/2024 15:59

It’s 7 months since ARO was launched and all we have seen are a few jars of jam and some dog biscuits . Her Instagram page has lost thousands of followers , there have been issues with the Trademark and rumours suggest the cooking show was poorly received by a test audience .
What business ventures does she have which are generating income ?

And the single jar of dog biscuits was an obvious and fairly lame attempt at headline grabbing and trying to divert attention when Catherine made an appearance at the Trooping the Colour.

MummyJ12 · 06/10/2024 16:10

Needanewname42 · 06/10/2024 16:02

That's even more weird. The event organisers must feel used by her?

Her friend must also feel used, it's like having a pushy pal that wants to come to something they aren't invited to and doesn't take no for an answer.

Used and ghosted is her MO.

I wonder if she was a last minute addition, courtesy of WME, but no room at the table to actually attend the event. It’s so shallow to just turn up for the red carpet and flash bulbs. We all know how much she wants her privacy, and hates those pesky paps! 😂

cheezncrackers · 06/10/2024 16:11

Going to an event just to walk the red carpet is beyond bizarre.

It was a publicity opportunity for her - that's all. Harry's been in the papers on his own for the past two weeks and this week everyone has been asking 'Where is Meghan? Why isn't she in Africa with Harry?' so here she is, wearing a fire engine red dress and gurning on the red carpet so you can't miss her.

But stay for some dull dinner and make small talk? Purlease! She's a Duchess FGS and far too important for that nonsense. All she wants is the cameras and the 'Meghan, Meghan, over here!' and the front page photos. And all the tabloids handily obliged her on that front, as she knew they would. Job done.

DalRiata · 06/10/2024 16:18

CoffeeCantata · 06/10/2024 15:35

I agree. I don't like Meghan, but I've seen enough of her behaviour to believe that it's something she probably can't help - the woman just does not know what to do with herself, physically or in any other sense, or how to comport herself when she is not the centre of attention. Hence we get the seal clapping, the barging in front and other weirder behaviours such as talking to herself. She doesn't know how to be still and calm and just chill. And the simpering to the camera - it must be conditioning from her upbringing and 'career'.

I think Meghan only understands the world in terms of outward/surface appearances. It's all about the optics, for her.

I agree with this.

I mean, her actions indicate she's likely not a particularly nice person but that's probably true of many in the public eye.

However the thing that is interesting to observe about Meghan is that she presents as unlikeable, unendearing, awkward and jarring in a way that I'm pretty sure she can't control and is not her fault. She has zero charm, no discernible charisma, no "people skills".

I'm not bashing her when I say this. I don't like her, I think she's quite deplorable as a person. But I can't help but be impressed (in a ruefully shaking my head sort of way) by her dogged persistence in the pursuit of fame and fortune despite being so conspicuously lacking in the majority qualities that would have made this an easier task for her.

And she started out with very little advantage of birth and with only average brains and looks (looks since elevated by surgery, veneers etc).
It's not admirable but, if considered dispassionately, it is hard not to be struck by such determination, artfulness, cunning, plots and schemes.

Whether it will bring her genuine happiness is anyone's guess.

MrsLeonFarrell · 06/10/2024 16:26

Business ventures might be referencing things she has invested in, there was a local coffee company and now the PR firm Three Gates. The article on that talked about her growing portfolio so there may be other things she is investing in.

Frankly investing seems a much more sensible way to fund her lifestyle than relying on fickle public interest or charity visits.

DalRiata · 06/10/2024 16:28

Manypaws · 06/10/2024 12:46

Why is she always clinging on to people?

She's always done this. She genuinely doesn't know how to interact with people in a natural way IMO.