Backseat PR drivers: Just for fun how would you manage the Royal PR?

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Light-hearted or serious suggestions - let's get all those bright ideas from us backseat drivers on the royal and ex royal communications output / and or what to do to improve their public images going forward. Or what not to do.

Pick a team or do them all:

Charles and Camilla

The Wales Fam

Harry and Meghan

The best of the rest - Edinburghs, Anne's clan

For the brave among you - The Yorks

Republicans, play along with your worst suggestions that you hope they will do to bring down the monarchy.

Agree and bringing in that awful case of that poor French woman to try and bolster their point is repugnant.

So I confidently predict some kind of negotiated partial in/out return of the Sussexes will happen at some point.

I wouldn’t hold your breath if I was you, this section has gone really weird these past few days, so many new posters predicting the return of Harry and Meghan because the royals desperately need them back which coincidentally ties in with the rumours saying Harry is wanting to be back in the fold, it’s like an invasion on here.

I would argue that the fact the working royals are still very popular when 2 of them have been off sick and unable to do as many engagements is proof that they don't need any more people. In the so of social media and 24hr news you don't need a many people to keep the monarchy in view.

Harry and Meghan chose to leave, they were given a year to change their minds and didn't. Harry may still want to be half in half out but wishing doesn't change the reality that they are not needed and are not wanted back as working royals.

I hope for all their sakes that they can heal the family rift but that's as far as it goes.

I hope for all their sakes that they can heal the family rift but that's as far as it goes.

I've seen headlines in news last few weeks how Harry is the "cool" uncle to George and then a headline Harry kids are the "cool" cousins usually followed by articles with massive dig at Wales parenting.

This is all before any public reconciliation - so while I agree you kind of hope the family heals behind the scenes if I was the Wales I'd be keeping my distance and my kids well away from that branch of the family.

H&M have a lot to gain by forgiveness from the RF and a reconciliation especially now that bullying behaviour by MM is being reported elsewhere and cannot be defended as being under stress from the racist RF.

I do think with what we know subsequently that if MM had been a decent person to staff and family within the RF - they would have considered some version of half in half out. But by then her poor behaviour had been under scrutiny for some time and they were not going to reward it and risk the reputation of the RF.

MM will not attempt a reconcilation - she is not emotionally capabale - she has never done that before with other situations and relationships.

What she likely wants now is PH to get back to some level of royal duties to bolster her / their depleting faux royal brand.

I didn’t expect to be called those adjectives for saying that the UK as a nation are not ready to have the national conversation about how rife sexual abuse is (as they are having to do in France right now, and if we were in the future context of having an (alleged) sexual abuser much further up in the immediate line of succession.)

It’s a very serious point. Without introducing something akin to a job description and contract you can’t actually sack monarchs or their immediate successors if they do absolutely terrible things. That’s clearly unacceptable.

The definition of who and what a working royal is can’t stay in previous centuries any more, because UK monarchs rule by tacit consent now. But the RF haven’t reformed themselves to make that clear, they’ve just ‘slimmed down’ in terms of the members they financially support, as I understand it. Totally different priority.

I didn’t expect to be called those adjectives for saying that the UK as a nation are not ready to have the national conversation about how rife sexual abuse is.

Rochdale/Telford and other scandals were huge soham murders that brought in DBS checking - Saville - Sarah Everard and the many met and then other police force scandals subsequently.

There have been quite a few national conversations - and we are supposed to have a child safeguarding culture in schools and such places because we've had them.

The poor rape conviction rate and the current delays in court system do hit the headlines and we've had an MP stand in Parliament and recount their own sexual assault to help other MP understand problems and every year an MP reads out the list of names of women killed by men. Most people are very aware there are problems.

Prince Andrew is widely derided and is out of public life - the King and Prince of Wales have publicly stated there is now way back to royal duties for him. He also hasn't actually been convicted of anything but is still widely held in contempt. He is only 8th in line to the thrown and will get lower and lower as time go past as wales kids grow up and have their own kids - he has no chance of getting near the throne and is increasingly irrelevant - if he moved out of his house as King wanted he wouldn't be in headlines at all.

We've also in last hundred years or so managed to get rid of a few unsuitable kings and as Parliament though act of succession controls who gets to be our monarch - I'm sure with public opinion on side they'd easily change it again.

We've also in last hundred years or so managed to get rid of a few unsuitable kings and as Parliament though act of succession controls who gets to be our monarch - I'm sure with public opinion on side they'd easily change it again.

I didn’t know that Parliament gets to control who is the next monarch. That’s some reassurance, I guess. But I do think the point of principle stands that there needs to be a reform in the RF to take it from amateur to professional. They could put an upper retirement age in at the same age as the rest if us and a minimum age of accession of 25 to make it more reasonable as a ‘job’. If Labour are serious about changing up the House of Lords it would be good to see Charles’ RF already on the front foot modernising for today’s ethical standards. I don’t care about the money side of it.

Harry's kids are Americans as that is the only country they have known. To quote the Jesuits, "give me a child before they are seven and I will give you the man". Forget about them. Two kids raised in strict isolation in Montecito by absentee parents are not the future of the British monarchy.

In 20 years, the three Wales kids could have multiple children and people will be complaining that the total family is too big.

People in the US like William and Catherine. They have high approval numbers. H & M are not popular in the US. You don't need them back.

Two kids raised in strict isolation in Montecito by absentee parents are not the future of the British monarchy

That's a wild accusation, do you have any proof that Harry and Meghan are not bringing up Archie and Lili?
Whatever you may think of them, I think it has been widely agreed that they're caring loving parents so I have no idea where you have got this from?

And are you saying these two little children now don't go to nursery or school because they were before, so I am again perplexed as to why you think they are raised in strict isolation. Are you suggesting they don't mix with other children or other people?

It's the act of succession - it why we ended up with the Hanoverians and not the Jacobite dynasty.

We spent 10 years as a republic - The Interregnum - the had the Glorious revolution - which kicked out the Jacobites - then parliament went heir shopping George Ist was about 51st in line to the throne when he got it.

Edward VIII - resigned - thank to works from politicians and the men in grey suits so we didn't need to formally do anything.

The act of succession was last update under Elisabeth II so that after a certain date girls would no long come after brothers. It didn't affect existing succession order but further places.

They could put an upper retirement age in at the same age as the rest if us and a minimum age of accession of 25 to make it more reasonable as a ‘job’.

It is not the US presidency - we do not need to make it so.

There's longstanding system of regencies as option to deal with unaged or incapacitated monarchy's and a monarch can retire or resign via abdication.

Labour announced what it doing with the house of Lords - they are getting rid of remaining hereditary peers - which ironically are the only elected part as currently they vote among themselves. The house of lords will then be entirely appointed peers and Bishops. I don't think it seen as having any impact of the monarch position at all.

William was much more invested in the children learning Spanish for when they play polo they have will an advantage of understanding the surrounding players.
It always grated on William that he couldn't.

I haven't seen any headlines like that. If anyone is the cool Uncle at the moment I think it's probably Mike Tindall who we've seen interact with the children.

I was definitely thinking of family healing behind the scenes. I can see no way back publically for Harry or Meghan in the next decade, and that timescale is assuming they stop the nasty royals/ racist UK narrative.

I don’t agree H&M have a lot to gain from a reconciliation- giving up their own inclme streams and plans and putting themselves back living in the housing and off funds from the monarch would be making themselves very vulnerable- Charles not honouring his mothers gift of Frogmore would be a massive warning that there is no reason to presume the next monarch would feel any duty to honour any promises or “gifts” the previous one made.

Given as a working royal before marriage, Harry wasn’t given a large allowance to live off anyway, he probably had a better quality of life now, and would be asking his wife and kids to take a step down in living standards.

But if he did want to come back and the royal family wanted him back, I do think it would pretty easy to get the public back in side. Some on here would still hate him, but some still hate camila as the OW. It’s amazing what the public will forgive and forget with positive press stories and time.

soham murders that brought in DBS checking

I think the perpatrator and accomplice had CRB in place. Sadly.

I had thought the issue was the Caretaker past hadn't been past on by previous police forces with registered concerns about him and that was why we now had DBS checking.

Though I did quick google and your are right it was Safeguarding Authority (ISA) that was set up after inquiry into the 2002 Soham Murders and that was later merged with Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) which did have it's procedure tighten up in response to same murders but did exists prior- so it was more of a process than I remembered.

Divorce isn’t the worst thing possible for children, it depends very much on the parents they have.

No one knows what kind of parents any of them are. Chances are in the case of Archie and Lili that they will he separated from their father until they are old enough to travel to the UK on their own. Especially if some people on here get their dearest wish and Harry's visa is revoked.

I'm sure they can send the nanny with them!

Whatever you may think of them, I think it has been widely agreed that they're caring loving parents so I have no idea where you have got this from?

I don’t know that it has been widely agreed. There’s been plenty of criticism of them going abroad together for long periods without their very small children. PR wise I think it’s a terrible look and if I was going to offer any advice to the Markles it would be to promote themselves more as a family and less as a couple.

They have no choice but to travel without their children because it would be an absolute media frenzy of negativity I am sure. I admire them for keeping their children out of the media as much as possible particularly when it is toxic about them as a couple

Personally I think they come across as caring loving parents, others can think different if they so wish

I don't think it's widely agreed at all. We have hardly ever seen them interact with their dcs, not that we have any right to, but as a result we have no idea of what kind of parents they are.

Did you watch the Netflix series ? H and M were quite happy to show their DC for money . Including Archie in his bath .

I’d love them to move out of their London circle and do some work else in the uk. Everything they do is so close to home and always involves something they love.

I don’t think soham brought in dbs checks. They were already in existence I’m sure. They brought in cross checks between police forces. So every time you dealt with an offender for sex offences you would do a Police National Database check which would tell you if the person had ever been dealt with for similar offences anywhere else in the uk. It was an information sharing development rather than dbs checks.