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Backseat PR drivers: Just for fun how would you manage the Royal PR?

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wordler · 11/09/2024 17:17

Light-hearted or serious suggestions - let's get all those bright ideas from us backseat drivers on the royal and ex royal communications output / and or what to do to improve their public images going forward. Or what not to do.

Pick a team or do them all:

Charles and Camilla

The Wales Fam

Harry and Meghan

The best of the rest - Edinburghs, Anne's clan

For the brave among you - The Yorks

Republicans, play along with your worst suggestions that you hope they will do to bring down the monarchy.

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SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 12/09/2024 12:06

And from a PR point of view- getting Harry back to the UK as a semi working Royal is preferable to this current situation where they are just waiting for book 2 to drop and the next round of family humiliation.

The Sussex's have lost a huge amount of credibility over time - with so many inconsistencies and their own behavior - and massive amount of popularity. Plus the RF is dealing with cancer - and have huge public sympathy for them at moment. I don't think book 2 is the potential PR nightmare it once was.

I think Sussex's together or apart want and need the RF connection. I don't see what the RF really get - another unpopular member - and more confusion over what the Sussex's represent. The half in and out model was never going to work - and that's not changed if anything the problems with it and the Sussex's is even more obvious.

MrsFinkelstein · 12/09/2024 12:09

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 12/09/2024 11:53

And from a PR point of view- getting Harry back to the UK as a semi working Royal is preferable to this current situation where they are just waiting for book 2 to drop and the next round of family humiliation.

inside the tent, being annoying but pissing out.

i would make a property in Scotland available for Harry. Meghan can go full tartan. Focus on royal eventsd charities in Scotland. Most importantly, physically far away from William and his family, but being useful.

Why the feck should Scotland be the dumping ground????

Get tae feck with that pish

FloofPaws · 12/09/2024 12:12

Saschka · 11/09/2024 19:31

Honestly Meghan and Harry should move back to Canada. Canada loves Drake as the only Canadian rapper, they love the Raptors as the only Canadian NBA team - they would love M&H as the only Canadian prince and princess. They could have a great career cutting ribbons and opening hockey games.

I seem to recall the Canadians being annoyed they were there and didn't want anything to do with paying loads for their upkeep?!

exprecis · 12/09/2024 12:12

I can think of no faster way to secure Scottish independence than to saddle them with Andrew and Harry

FloofPaws · 12/09/2024 12:16

Delphigirl · 11/09/2024 19:36

Wales - start being honest. Split up already, you obviously loathe each other. The shampoo ad can’t undo 10 years of disdain for each other at public appearances. William - go to anger management /have some therapy. You obviously have not recovered from the trauma of losing your mother and that is very sad, but you will never be happy until you address it therapeutically. And do some bloody work. You have always been lazy but it has dwindled to almost nothing and you can’t take the palaces and helicopters and vast estates and give nothing in return. Not for long, anyway. Kate - you are also lazy but if you get a nice divorce settlement you can revert to dogs and kids and an aga which is clearly all you really want. Maybe find a nice man who loves you.

Eh?
Don't mean H&M? ... but PH needs to find someone to actually love him and not use him up and wring him out?

UmaNipples · 12/09/2024 12:18

I’m looking forward to see how they deal with the change of government.The RF can’t be political, rightly, but the country that they have a relationship has been properly fucked over since the 2008 financial crisis, 2016 Brexit, 2020 Covid, ongoing cost of living crisis, including cost of housing and energy, widespread economic precarity, massive use of food banks, ever widening economic disparity in the UK, public services like health and education and housing not fit for purpose, UK productivity and infrastructure crises, global political instability and populism, and the urgency of the climate emergency.

The royals need to somehow acknowledge how hard things are for the country without being able to mention the obvious that everything is knackered and the solutions are going to be political.. Like today’s reports saying the NHS is broken. Nobody is naming the fact that the Tories have broken it. maybe too awkward for the people who were there at the top who didn’t stop it or who made it worse. The Roysls ‘were there’ albeit powerlessly so they need to really distance themselves somehow.

The King should nod to hard domestic times in the Christmas Day talk so we know that they know a tiny bit of what’s going on. The royals as a team shouldn’t be nostalgic in their direction, looking to the future and offering hope is good. QEII We will meet again tv broadcast etc.

For example, I love William’s Earthshot prize, that needs to ramp up. As well as wildlife and biodiversity and habitats, could it expand to cover sustainable farming and fishing in the UK etc? He also needs to carry on his homelessness work linking back to his mum’s interests. I love Camilla for her work with domestic violence. i hope she carries on with championing challenging causes and women’s causes.

I think poor Kate has been so ill that she should be allowed to rest at home for the next few years basically permanently and just look after herself. I think the stress of public royal life can’t be good for her health.

And somehow there need to be secret talks with H&M so they can actually be half in half out. There’s not enough actual royals to do all the work otherwise. Meghan has star power and Harry I have little time for but he can carry on with Invcitus and focus on sports based charities, mental health and his mums legacy. They can be based in the US and do the international gladhanding while the rest of the family keep it mainly UK domestic work and hosting other leaders in the UK.

Charles is doing a good job of being grandad of the nation as OP said. Hopefully his health will be OK longer term. He has had cancer though so I don’t think he can take on big social issues or do loads of hosting and touring. They are are short handed.

IcedPurple · 12/09/2024 12:21

They can be based in the US and do the international gladhanding while the rest of the family keep it mainly UK domestic work and hosting other leaders in the UK.

So they can do 'international gladhandling', representing a country they choose not to live in? While (presumably) being generously funded by the taxpayers of that country? Don't be daft!

Uricon2 · 12/09/2024 12:25

MrsFinkelstein · 12/09/2024 12:09

Why the feck should Scotland be the dumping ground????

Get tae feck with that pish

😂👏

exprecis · 12/09/2024 12:26

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 12/09/2024 11:05

The issue with both early years and homelessness as choices isn’t just that they are political - it’s that they are party political. These aren’t just political issues, they are issues that the two major political parties have different policies on, and so any useful involvement is going to require leaning closer to one party or the other. That’s not possible for the future King and Queen.

William should have been pushed to take on the Princes Trust. He should have it explained to him his laziness and long holidays need to stop when POW. I refuse to believe he hasn’t been told, so he must just be choosing to be this useless. His behaviour is a bigger risk to the continuation of the Royals than his brothers. And he’s the one who’s got more to lose (this is not a man who comes across as if he would cope very well if he had to live off money he earned).

Yes, exactly on the political issues

On the Prince's Trust - I think it's fine for him not to take it on if he had something substantial he was doing instead but he doesn't.

At 42, he has had plenty of time but he hasn't done anything of substance yet. There's only so long you can keep saying "early days, the impact will come"

And while yes agree on George learning Welsh, really William should be fluent by now too.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 12/09/2024 12:56

Rather like the no-makeup makeup look, I think there's a lot to be said for the no-PR PR look. At the moment they seem to be taking self-commodification to new heights. I don't think they should feel they have to, not on my account anyway. Imperfect should be the new perfect. Ditch all the airbrushing. It's the grit in the oyster that holds the promise of a pearl.

And why is Scotland being viewed as a suitable dumping ground for the royal equivalent of nuclear waste? Honestly!

BemusedAmerican · 12/09/2024 13:02

Why should the US be the dumping ground? We don't respect H & M. They have no star power for us.

I agree William should expand into environmental projects. He can focus on his properties in Cornwall.

RedPalace · 12/09/2024 13:06

Why on earth are H&M suppose to be the international stars? They have been very clear they don't respect the institution and in Meghan's case don't like the UK. Yet posters think they should pop around the world representing the very thing they dislike 🙄

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 12/09/2024 13:13

Why should the US be the dumping ground? We don't respect H & M. They have no star power for us.

USA immigration let him in --though under what terms seems to be mystery - and she's a product of the USA so don't think she can be kept out of her own country.

If Harry comes back to UK - he'll be let back in as he's a citizen doesn't mean RF have to have their open arms they'd be mad to do so IMO. He can buy somewhere with his own money and live what life he wants - media will if it garners pubic interest report on him.

I think officials of any country should try and stay out of their decisions - they are private citizens with no formal state role.

smilesy · 12/09/2024 13:23

PR tip for the Sussexes. You appear to have invested in expensive PR, so why aren’t you using it? Why are you bypassing it and emailing publications directly? Seems a bit of a rookie error 🤷‍♀️

BemusedAmerican · 12/09/2024 13:45

@SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun H & M should remember they are private citizens. No one wants to listen to them ( except for the SS).

Screamingabdabz · 12/09/2024 13:49

They all need some character and personality.

The only two who give any rizz are Camilla and Zara. Irreverent, smiley, consistent, stiff upper lip, engaged and down to earth. Everything good about the British character.

As opposed to bland, whiny, entitled and closed off.

Harry is a special case. He needs to get divorced, move back to the UK and go through cult de-programming.

Sussurations · 12/09/2024 13:49

H&M do not have star power. They don’t get invited anywhere and they don’t do anything interesting. They are a menace to the RF and bringing them back into the fold would be a death blow to the future of the monarchy.

Diana was able to do AIDS and land mines because she was unbelievably charismatic and empathetic - none of them currently have that charisma (which is very rare) - and those were highly political and controversial topics. She was also very experienced at day to day royal work and knew that the majority of people loved her.

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 12/09/2024 13:52

BemusedAmerican · 12/09/2024 13:45

@SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun H & M should remember they are private citizens. No one wants to listen to them ( except for the SS).

They should - but everyone else should treat them like it as well.

Hopefully USA immigration and courts did/are doing so.

Before the Nigerian trip our ambassador did make it clear they weren't representing UK and it wasn't the president doing the inviting but I think the army.

I do think the press/media could be clearer on the issue - but they just want to sell interest so sometime I think it is glossed over to much.

BustingBaoBun · 12/09/2024 14:56

Just come across this thread, what a shame, it's just become a 'let's knock harry and meghan' thread like all the rest.

William and Kate need to do more charitable endeavours. So disappointed to see an ethereal film about her cancer. But I didn't like the Norfolk one from a few years back either.
I would've loved to have seen the both of them talking to those with cancer, those in remission, McMillan nurses, Maggie's Centre support groups, even the Cancer Research charity.
I think they both could've played a blinder with this ongoing given the hugely privileged position they are in. Getting down with the public in all sorts of ways would be so worthwhile and bring some light to those suffering and their families. It might've been both humbling and inspirational for them too. Much better than an over long schmaltzy video. An opportunity missed but I hold out hope this sort of endeavour may come in the future.

I want William to step up his work schedule and ease the burden on a 75year old man with cancer, his Dad.

BustingBaoBun · 12/09/2024 14:58

Harry is a special case. He needs to get divorced, move back to the UK and go through cult de-programming.

What a thoroughly horrible post. I don't wish divorce when there's two little children on anyone.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/09/2024 17:31

BustingBaoBun · 12/09/2024 14:58

Harry is a special case. He needs to get divorced, move back to the UK and go through cult de-programming.

What a thoroughly horrible post. I don't wish divorce when there's two little children on anyone.

I hope you feel the same at @Bretonsweater post regarding their comments on William and Kate marriage.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/09/2024 17:40

Bretonsweater · 12/09/2024 12:01

Charles & Camilla - change nothing. Crushing it.

Will & Kate - tricky. Are they still together? Is this a "soft splitting"? Stop with the soft focus Timotei ad stuff, do some actual cancer charity endorsement, and then just allow Kate to fade from view except for 2 - 3 annual engagements.

If they ARE still together she needs to suck it up and get back to work full time when she is better. She had a very very long time to think about whether or not she wanted this job, and nobody gives a damn about big vague projects - people need to see their faces at worthwhile events and charities, picking up the phone to use their influence and been seen to make people's better at a grass roots level. Kate's always been a little bit Boden catalogue and she needs to be more serious now. She's going to be Queen in five years.

If they have split up, they need to continue to phase her out gently and drama free (as they are now, if this is the case) before Charles dies, Will single for 2 - 3 years, phase in Rose. But then they need to start building up Will's reputation independently and with demonstrable hard work, because he is little liked now. Possibly focussed on the military. He looked nice in a uniform, and they should capitalise on that.

Harry & Meghan - move heaven and earth to get them back part time. Give them all the long haul engagements - Africa in particular, and divide the brothers as domestic/international. Meghan willl have fun, not have to live in England much, Harry seems to like that kind of thing anyway. Prise them away from the US before they make it worse.

Yorks - get Andrew out of that house, and make it Harry & Meghan's British residence as they need the status more than he does. Retire Andrew to Scotland (sorry Scotland) and get him firmly remarried to Sarah to dispel skeevy image and promote their happy marriage, but no royal engagements or work. Allow Beatrice & Eugenie to just do themselves as they see fit. They're doing absolutely fine, unless they want to get involved, which they probably don't anyway.

Anne - let the woman retire.

I see you are a new poster to the RF threads, it’s funny how new posters come along with such an insight into all things royal and it’s always to put down William and Kate, particularly their marriage and to try and promote Harry and Meghan as the international roving superstar royals, so predictable and so utterly transparent.

IcedPurple · 12/09/2024 17:48

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/09/2024 17:40

I see you are a new poster to the RF threads, it’s funny how new posters come along with such an insight into all things royal and it’s always to put down William and Kate, particularly their marriage and to try and promote Harry and Meghan as the international roving superstar royals, so predictable and so utterly transparent.

The expression 'phase her out' keeps coming up again and again.

I reckon a lot of people are coming here from a certain American hate, sorry, 'gossip' site where they are obsessed with the barmy idea that Kate is faking her diagnosis as a cover for impending divorce.

Obviously, anyone can get divorced and nobody knows what's going on in a stranger's marriage. But is there even the slightest evidence for the bizarre 'phase out' theory?

Uricon2 · 12/09/2024 17:57

I think the "phase out" thing is pure desperation. Would anyone seriously think a couple who had effectively split up and on the verge of divorce would put themselves, let alone their children, through making the end of chemo film if it were all fake? A film that could be used as reference for decades to come if there was deception?

Love the way some are so keen to drive the recently very unwell Kate back to work ASAP, preferably concentrating on cancer issues whether she currently feels able to or not. She may not feel ready to do that for a long time or in fact ever. Meanwhile, the Montecito residence is hardly a powerhouse of industry and commitment, or in fact even jam.

Bretonsweater · 12/09/2024 18:06

@IcedPurple @BigWillyLittleTodger I’ve been around here, on and off, for coming up on 17 years, as it happens. There’s a useful name change function on Mumsnet. 👀

You can think K & W are a bit useless without being a H & M fangirl. They’re all a bit pointless in their own individual ways, but this was a lighthearted thread about being a fantasy PR for them.

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