Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - ¡Viva Colombia! Edition (Part 7)

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Welcome to Part 7 of our positive threads, where we explore all things Meghan and Harry. From the causes they champion and their business ventures to Meghan’s (and occasionally Harry’s 😉) fashion moments, there’s a lot to chat about. This is a drama-free space, so let’s keep it upbeat! High five to @queentim for the original inspiration.

And yet you still read it, despite it being an echo chamber of negativity?

A lot of people left after the revelation of Catherine’s cancer concern. There’d been some nasty stuff posted about her in the run up and even some of the more balanced and rational posters had got sucked in. One day they were posting on those threads, next day they were all off the threads completely.

People do pop up from time to time when the Sussexes are due at some event but then it goes tits up and they disappear or root out the odd article that praises them. Admittedly it must be getting harder to do so. I'm afraid the Sussexes courted publicity brazenly starting with the OW interview but it has all come back to bite them on the arse now. You cannot control anyone else and they are finding this out the hard way hence the huge amount of negative articles about them now.

Finistereoverthere · Yesterday 23:30
I don’t think that is about H and M themselves tbh, I think it is much more about these threads being pretty much an echo chamber full of negativity inhabited by a lot of regulars who only allow one viewpoint to be expressed and people can’t be bothered with it anymore!

OK then. Please let me hear your 'positive' spin on the recent very serious allegations of workplace bullying in the Hollywood Reporter (in the wake of those from KP and in the comments made by the Reitmann's boss, before Meghan even met Harry).

Or do we just ignore this and talk about her earrings? Is that what you mean by 'another viewpoint', or 'positivity'?

Personally, I don't think they can come back from this. The chickens are flying home to roost now.

Quite. Just the odd (alpha-numeric with little commitment gone into it) new user-name now. Nothing wrong with a new user-name - people join MN all the time. It's just suspicious that these are often one-off comments and the name is never heard of again. And often, that 'mark of the beast':a few lols thrown in for good measure..

And the comments are always absolutely generic and unrelated to the discussion. Bots? Parrots? Desperate fans? Bingo callers?

Those threads were crazy 🙃

Very much marked by never seen before /never seen since names.

Astounding times.

Spotted today in downtown LA.

Where was Meghan when Harry was in New York? It's not like her to miss an event. Is this deliberate I wonder? Have her lay low for a while? It must be galling to her if this is the case to be seen as creating a negative impression?

She was not mentioned to be on the CGI panel in NY when it was announced PH would be talking about The Parent Network (Maybe because Katie Couric was on the same panel?).

Its tomorrow so would expect her to accompany him and be in the audience? Although she was sick on Fri and missed the Kevin Costner event - so might not go NY.

on the recent very serious allegations of workplace bullying in the Hollywood Reporter (in the wake of those from KP and in the comments made by the Reitmann's boss, before Meghan even met Harry).

Or do we just ignore this and talk about her earrings? Is that what you mean by 'another viewpoint', or 'positivity'?

the above was not directed at me but I have an opinion about this.

I had a look at the HR article yesterday and there are no named sources for the bullying allegations. It’s a mash up of old stuff mixed in with something new - no source and none of it has been proven.

Also the article hard no writer - but it had 2 editors. I did wonder if it was written with ChatGPT.

Why would anyone believe this article outright? I’m not totally dismissing it, but I’m afraid I need proof. Something more substantial. Just as I don’t pay any heed to names Piers Morgan announced as being the royal racists. There is no named source.

it was interesting to see Richard Eden has written about the bullying claims in the Daily Mail. Kate Beckinsale had posted on instagram that in an article in the Daily Mail written by Richard Eden, he had implied that she opened up to him about her mother’s cancer. Kate has said she does not know the man, and that she would never speak to the Daily Mail about something so personal.

Edited to add, why would anyone trust the Daily Mail anymore?

If the allegations are untrue why has there been no rebuttal? Not necessarily suing but a strongly worded statement denying the claims ?

@Hiji what did Katie Couric say about her?

Sunsetand · Today 12:52

Sunsetland, I admit I don't read the Mail (not on priniciple or anything - I just don't) but I'm talking about an article in the Hollywood Reporter. I understand that it's a respected publication in its field, and, while you and I aren't in any position to assess the veracity of this article, as pps have said - no-one's sued.

Meghan has form for making plenty of people cry, it seems (some of it on video for all to see) in her short time in the public eye, so this doesn't surprise me. We all have to choose what to believe, I guess! Her effect on the KP staff during her time in the RF is very well-attested - even by Harry.

Well the editor in chief, Maer Roshan, has been interviewed since the article came out saying they interviewed 12 sources including at least one current member of staff for that article. So very unlikely written by AI. More likely so many different people worked in it that there was no way of crediting one writer.

I think she challenged Meghan - as part of the panel which included Brooke Shields (pls correct me if this is wrong) and Meghan didn't like it. She doesn't like people who see through her, or who don't buy into her self-image.

@Sunsetand Maer Rohan, editor in chief at THR, stated that were 12 sources, all based in LA that contributed evidence for the article.
Of course they are unnamed sources, it’s ridiculous to expect people to go on the record! These contributions echo those complaints of bullying from staff at Kensington Palace but they are new complaints. It’s not old stuff mashed up and it’s nothing to do with the daily mail, the Royal Family, the British media etc, but it sounds old because the complaints are so similar in how they felt bullied by Meghan. The Hollywood Reporter is not a rag tabloid. It’s the industry bible.
Interesting how Maer Rohan has worked with Ron Burkle who is an investor of SoHo house. We all know that Meghan has close links with the SoHo house group. He wouldn’t want to upset Ron Burkle for no reason who is a power player in the media. The article is solid.

A bit of a cross post there @wordler sorry. But it backs yours up at least!

The interesting thing about the article being in the HR is that this is an industry filled with obnoxious, bullying people - I’m sure Meghan is by no means the worst - but if you have some power and influence you can get away with it for a long time.

But if your power and influence wanes then it seems like all bets are off.

I wouldn't criticise Meghan for the behaviour reported in the HR - in fact, I wouldn't care except for the hypocrisy! The reason I don't want her to get away with it is because her whole USP is claiming that she's for kindness, empathy, giving people their voices and campaigning against bullying.

I would totally criticise Meghan for her behaviour and it’s right that she’s getting called out for it. She has a duty of care to people who work for her. People should be able to do their jobs without being humiliated and bullied. The fact that it goes on elsewhere, doesn’t make it ok. Even the late Queen tried to make it clear that she needed to be nicer. Whether it be from frustration that the staff aren’t performing to her expectations or simply power play, her management style obviously leaves a lot to be desired.
However, @CoffeeCantata I do agree with you that it’s made so much worse by her blatant hypocrisy.

MummyJ12 · Today 14:59

Yes - I agree - I didn't put that very well! I just meant that, as pps have said, her reported bullying behaviour wouldn't be remarkable in Hollywood, I'm sure. I can imagine it's a hellish, ruthless, cut-throat world. But how Meghan can strut around with a mic 'campaigning' against just this sort of thing, I fail to understand.

Absolutely @CoffeeCantata you’re right.

People in Hollywood think they can get away with all kinds of crimes and behaviour…..

It will be interesting as to what happens next. The squad are frothing and even more unhinged at the moment which means all is not well. I have heard rumours that the Sussex camp are trying to get as many positive stories out there to diffuse this as they can, but there is less uptake which looks to be true by my X feed.

It will be interesting as to what happens next. The squad are frothing and even more unhinged at the moment which means all is not well. I have heard rumours that the Sussex camp are trying to get as many positive stories out there to diffuse this as they can, but there is less uptake which looks to be true by my X feed.

Yes - my 'research' (like looking down a sewer..) on Celebitchy indicates that the SS reaction is to a) rubbish the claims as malicious and therefore worthless and b) latch on to the 'making grown men cry' phrase as some kind of feminist triumph (when we all know that this is a figure of speech, and certainly doesn't refer only to men...and even if it did, it doesn't make it OK!).

They are a pathetic bunch on there. One poster dared to very mildly suggest that possibly H & M ought to be careful because this kind of report might have an adverse effect on their standing in Hollywood (wow - who'd have thought it??) and was piled on by others who scolded her (it was a woman) for even reading the 'deranger press'. They urged her to stick to pro-Sussex articles and preferably those filtered by Kommandant Kaiser.

If I thought these deluded people represented any more than a crazy minority, I'd be plunged into despair for contemporary society!!

I’ve noticed that @CoffeeCantata and they are also bringing William and Catherine into the toxicity again. It’s bullying but I don’t suppose we should expect anything else. Bullying is the only thing some people do well (and that isn’t supposed to be a compliment).

What on earth do the ‘Sussex squad’ think they are achieving?

They make the Sussexes look completely barking by association IMO.