C5 Documentary: Harry and Meghan, Rise and Fall

[IsoldeWagner]

Anyone watching this? It's on My5. I thought the first episode was interesting. I was reminded of how popular they were and how much support they got.

One thing that really struck me about the C5 documentary was the response of H&M to banks of photographers and press. They loved it! Especially those scenes of the early days - the clicking and the flashing of the cameras non stop, they basked in it, pausing, turning, smiling. They look thrilled and loved being the centre of attention. It clearly suited them.
I think therefore a life of unofficial royalty, for them, had to include that level of press interest, headlines and clicks. That's what they want to maintain.

What is interesting to is that the famous “three of us in this marriage” phrase used by Diana is now interpreted to refer to Camilla, but it didn’t because Bashir had convinced her that Charles was having an affair with someone else entirely. So all Harry’s vilifying of Camilla is misplaced for that point of view and ironically the person who was (wrongly) thought of by Diana as the culprit was someone Harry was close to

I think many of us have come to understand that what Harry calls “misinformation” and negative press is in fact any negative opinion of him and his wife. He’s quite happy with the press when they say nice things about them

Yes, I think that's at the heart of it, @smilesy .
They want to be royal, famous, titled, photographed, respected, listened to. However - it's not realistic that there will be no criticism, and they don't seem to get it.
There is not one member of that family who hasn't had some bad press at some point. What the others did to get past it was to tune it out and focus on what they had to do. How Camilla got out of bed at one point defeats me, but now look at her! Supporting anti Domestic Violence projects, women's refuges, literacy, - all positive and all making a difference.

Spot on. They want to be royals and be curtseyed to and cheered and fawned over. But they do not want any of the restrictions of royal life. Or be told what to do by anybody. Or told they are ever in the wrong.

Yes, true.

It was totally unfounded and malicious and the poor, innocent woman had to live with that finger of suspicion and Diana's accusations afterwards.

That poor woman. What a dreadful episode, didn't she threaten Diana with a legal injunction? Whatever, Diana did not come out of that well.

The month before she recorded the Panorama interview with Bashir, Diana wrote a note to Paul Burrell in which she told him that:

"This particular phase in my life is the most dangerous — my husband is planning an accident in my car. Brake failure and serious head injury in order to make the path clear for him to marry [the other woman]. Camilla is nothing but a decoy so we are being used by the man in every sense of the word”.

The Telegraph has recently reported that it was Bashir who was telling Diana that Charles and the the other women were having affair. He also produced a falsified receipt to Diana purporting to show that the women had aborted Charles’ child.

So yes, the Panorama interview needs to be looked at in the light of what Diana believed at the time.

LAW2010 - if you read my post above, at the time of the panorama interview, Diana herself believed that the confessed affair with Camilla was just a decoy to hide Charles’ real affair with a different woman.

See above post from Serenster. No I am not nuts thanks very much 😊

edited to insert space and disclaimer about my sanity 😂

@smilesy 😂
Exactly the same post and phrasing as a different poster yesterday 🙄

I initially thought H&M = a good thing.

After the SA tour, and her behaviour on the previous tour, I was recognising a narc.

When they went off to Canada for 5 weeks, my thought was - this is where she isolates him from his family.

"brokeback Brexit Britishness!"

Excessive fond of that phrase, aren't they? 😁

It was the odious Nicholas Soames.

Edited to add - I remember that TV appearance of his well. My impression of him was that he was an out-of-touch upper class twit, the sort of man with no time for women with opinions. He did not come across as altogether together himself in that TV appearance - a bit outrage-frothy.

It's alliterative! 😂
Is "brokeback" a reference to homosexuality?

'the scarecrow'....

Such misogyny. From such a new poster too.......

I know. Can you imagine if such an offensive misogynist term was used against Meghan?!
We wouldn't, of course.

We can add "brokeback Brexit Britain" to the bingo card.

We can! 😂

So are you able to diagnose a Narcissist? Or are these journalists mental health therapists and can diagnose a Narcissist?

You are calling Harry a simpleton without a brain of his own!
A man who can fly an Apache helicopter!
A man who wanted to fight with his unit in Afghanistan!
Was always dong his own thing!

Harry was clearly terrified of history repeating itself, hence why they left the UK!

I agree though Meghan wasn't following royal protocol, just like a narc:-
Wasn't having an affair with another man whilst married to Harry!
Wasn't hanging out with people like Epstein!
Mind you Meghan could hang with Ghislaine Maxwell and learn some royal protocol!
Didn't get caught topless with an American Businessman, like Ferge did in the 90s!

The royal family is highly disfunctional

Morning!(almost) @IsoldeWagner , I haven't managed to find time for the second episode yet, any good ?
Coverage fair and balanced?

Morning Jeff! Yes, I thought so, in that voices from both sides were heard. No-one was demonised, which I liked.
I had forgotten just how popular and supported they were in the UK.

Oh I might give it a view then! 🤣
I actually missed all the ( joy) at the time so I'm finding it interesting seeing it with my own eyes, previously I've only heard snippets from posters here .

I'm not commenting on other topics here , it's got nothing to do with your thread title and is frankly boring old news that has been debated to death for 40 odd years now .

I'm not an ornithologist but I can spot a duck.