C5 Documentary: Harry and Meghan, Rise and Fall

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Anyone watching this? It's on My5. I thought the first episode was interesting. I was reminded of how popular they were and how much support they got.

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Don't know where to start with this rubbish. Have you worn out your exclamation mark key, btw?

Are you not aware of the interview Charles did years ago with Jonathan Dimbleby, in which he was asked about his marriage and his relationship with Camilla (Charles agreed, bravely, to broach this subject on TV) and he replied with honesty and humility, expressing his sorrow at the mistakes he'd made.

You can probably find it on YouTube, if you're genuinely interested. But you''e not, are you?

Very much agree with this, though I admit that Burrell makes me laugh

An unpleasant oik, yes, but one who clearly knows things the RF would prefer to keep hidden - or why would the late Queen have had to tell that ridiculous tale about "suddely remembering a conversation" to keep him out of the witness box?

And his constant smirk suggests he's absolutely revelling in it ...

We all make the odd typo but...

I'm going to say it: I think it's bleedin' obvious that most H & M supporters are dim souls with poor literacy and reasoning skills. Oh, and no capacity for critical thinking.

No mystery as to the reason. H & M are so ridiculous now that only the dimmest, daftest, Disney-princess fantasists can stomach them.

Envy? Lol I do not envy them one bit that is a life I'd never want to live. I'm completely content with the life I have. Then again you do love to make things up that aren't true, oh wait sorry what's the word you prefer ah yes speculating. Not to mention you love to put people down with your constant you lack comprehension skills comment. You have admitted you don't like H&M so no wonder your comments are biased.

Just because I don't constantly moan about, speculate about or make bitchy comments abor H&M dowant mean I'm on par with pro Sussex supporters. With people like you who do enough of that already no need to pile on even more.

@CoffeeCantata

“Yes, I think that if I had to sum up Meghan in one word it would be 'vulgar'. Her extremely expensive clothes (I think the engagement ensemble cost £40K) were beyond the norm for royals and I think Prince Charles (as he was then) called them out on this. It's so obvious now that M thought she'd found a short-cut to A-list status which she'd clearly craved but couldn't achieve through her acting, with the budget to match. The problem is, even royals don't really spend that sort of money on their working clothes.”

I remember one of the late Queen’s Private Secretaries referring to Sarah Ferguson as “ vulgar, vulgar, vulgar” . It could easily be applied again here !
By the way the engagement dress was around £70k !!

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I actually remember when Burrell was publicising some of the revelations about Diana, and Harry called on him to stop. He asked him to respect his mother's memory and share no more.
Funny that.

It’s also school holidays…

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Well, they certainly weren’t hanging around and quickly had their heads high up their own behinds, maybe the poster meant that? Although clearly can’t be that sore because they are still up there so 🤷‍♀️😉

Harry reminds me of my younger brother. He'll bombard you with noise until you lose the will to live and drop your complaint just to make it stop. I reckon Harry's rebuttal will be along those lines. If you ever get to read it you'll feel like your head's been in a blender.

No envy? Sure. That's why you leapt to attack them on the basis of what all the ordinary people have to do.

Please do tell me what I've made up that isn't true.

You're just here as a neutral bystander. Of course you are (bollocks).

My sympathies. I think we can work out what William has had to put up with over the years!

I think that if I had to sum up Meghan in one word it would be 'vulgar'

Works for me, @CoffeeCantata, though I'd say exactly the same about Harry - not because of their lifestyle, appearances or even choice of friends, but purely because of the way they behave

You telling me what I'm feeling is not true. I'm not envious your just making that up. I've told you I'm not. What exactly am I envious about?

What do you know about my life to come to the conclusion I must be envious of theirs? Absolutely nothing so dont get personal with me

Outshone

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Actually William has talked several times about his trauma and how he’s dealt with it. He has mentioned it a lot when promoting the mental health for men campaigns - he interviewed several footballers and sportsmen.

He mentioned that when he was working as the air ambulance pilot and dealing with serious accidents and trauma every week that during one particular incident involving a small child (this was when he was already a father himself) he felt some kind of damn break inside him and all these difficult feelings came to the surface and he knew that he needed to take himself to therapy to deal with it all.

He also said about losing his mother at such a young age that it was the type of thing which could break you or make you and he didn’t want it to break him.

Thanks, @wordler . Excellent points 👍

I think those will be necessary

My guess is that they will let those who have the style (or entitlement to it, whether or not they use it) under the LPs in force at their birth will see no change.

But - and ideally well before any of the Wales DC have their own DC) there will be a change made so that only the offspring in the direct line ad infinitum are HRH Prince or Princess at birth (so future sovereign and siblings - who may well become working Royals - get them, but no other DGC or DGGC). With provision that family members from other lines who become working royals can be granted it individually for their lifetime (unlikely, but worth covering as many permutations as possible) and also that entitlement is the same whether in male or female line.
Plus a statement that it is expected that those have a birth entitlement but who are not expected to be working royals (the Edinburgh/Wessex model) and those "spares" who quit duties voluntarily cease using the royal titles.

That is just not true.

Good points @WinnieTheW0rm - I also think that if you choose to no longer work as an official royal, and if you choose to live abroad you cease to be in the line of succession.

You're (you are) not your! How many times?

And again, you are in no place to lecture anyone else about personal posts, considering the contents of the one that preceded this one. Virtually all your posts are berating the RF or other posters for the discussion they are having, speaking about them in pejorative terms and telling them you come here to laugh at them.

Yes envy. Class envy. Wealth envy. Envy of what others can afford to do to manage in a crisis or bring up their kids in the way they see works best for them. In response about the work output of a woman with cancer and small children, this is your response.

As do lots of other people who also have full time jobs to go to to keep the money coming in otherwise they would lose the roof over their heads. They don't have the private wealth to pay their bills and day to day spending. So let's not make out that will and kate are having to cope with a huge workload when they don't, they even have staff to help them manage alot of it as well

I don't know any family who have both stopped working, either one is full time or at the very least part time working. Because lost people cant afford to both not be working. It's a privilege if you can both stop working and still be able to pay your bills, pay for activities, go on holidays etc whilst raising your children up. Plenty of people raise secure kids whilst doing some form of work and are still present for their children

Great points. Plus the fact that Harry credited William for spotting that he (Harry) was having mental health issues when he came out of the army and persuaded him into therapy; and the fact that he then went on to form Heads Together with Catherine and Harry, having a very frank discussion about their feelings on camera, completely flies in the face of Harry's lies that mental health was not spoken of within the RF. It's so bare faced, and I really don't know how he has kept on getting away with it. It's this sort of provable lie that I would hope this sort of documentary would expose, but it probably won't.

Absolutely, @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar I have no idea why Harry gets away with these lies, and his fans still support him. It's worse than just a lie though, it's a willful misrepresentation of what the RF have done to support him, and deny what is positive and good, and an attempt to rewrite history to ensure that he is always a victim.