King Charles III

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Will he?

I am no gambler but I can’t see it myself. Not unless he wants to show his support of his son. Would KC be that generous to his ‘darling boy’? If he did it will definitely upset some anti Harry royalists/daily mail readers/ right wing Americans. Can’t have Harry receiving the King surely….he is supposed to be beyond the pale these days.

William is reported as being ‘baffled’. Baffled? More like blazingly angry about it if true. I guess Will’s thought he could act like a ‘cuckoo’ and get Harry out now and forever. Maybe, the ‘bullying’ trait reported over the years by many, many people regarding him is still there.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/style/king-charles-discussions-visit-prince-130106673.html

Well you'd hope not, but given that PH at least is as dim as a TocH lamp I doubt he'd think that strategically.

Good point! 😂

Only room for one on that throne

That's generally how being king or queen works, yes. Well done for spotting that.

I have not one single fuck to give. Not even half a fuck. Not even 0.00001% of a fuck. And I have no idea where and why Anyone would have a fuck to give either.

Thanks for sharing that. Did you just happen to stumble onto the board and not realise, as well?

That’s rather the point of a monarchy. Only one on the throne. Some people need to brush up on their history.

Edit: not you MrsD obviously!

Some people think we're as ignorant as they are.

😬😬

William has two spares. Double the trouble coming down the tracks.

If this story is true, and I doubt that it is, then I would commend KC for making the effort and going out there and trying to instigate some sort of reconciliation.

After all, you can't really be head of the C of E and not at least try to demonstrate forgiveness.

KC after all has access to some of the world's top mediators and spiritual advisors to help him if he so chooses.

Why on Earth would William "hanker after" getting rid of Harry, given this "antiquated hierarchical system" means he will become King (and then so will his heir)

I'm sure that Harry could have had an important role in royal life/national/international life, but in terms of the succession he's meaningless now, because as you point out, there's only room for one on the throne and it won't be him.

Why do people write about Harry as if he had renounced the “antiquated hierarchical system”, when he is not only still gaining from the privilege but has also placed his children in the hierarchy, his son outranks his own daughter. I would actually had more respect if he had fucked off and left the lot. Harry is not upset with the hierarchy, just his position. He hasn’t been a spare for a decade.

I'm sure that Harry could have had an important role in royal life/national/international life, but in terms of the succession he's meaningless now, because as you point out, there's only room for one on the throne and it won't be him

I was reading Courtiers last night, and according to that Harry was obsessed with the idea that he had only a few years of service before he was superseded by the Cambridge children as they grew up and he was steadily relegated. You can interpret all these Mickey Mouse awards he seems to be nominated for to be his way of saying 'See! I'm still making a mark on the world despite my family trying to sideline me.' It's another way he's trying to emulate his mother.

He only had to look at the Duke of Kent and Princess Alexandra to see that a role in the RF isn't limited by age.

Well no. Obviously he can’t be an actual cuckoo since he’s a human being. He can’t act like a cuckoo because his situation is not analogous to that of a cuckoo, ie, he is not an interloper who has forced the true progeny of the parents out of the family nest. He’s Charles’s first born son and heir to the throne. There’s absolutely no reason for him to force his brother out of the picture, let alone evidence of him doing so. Harry has certainly never implied this, so goodness knows where his so called supporters are getting this from.

There’s absolutely no reason for him to force his brother out of the picture, let alone evidence of him doing so. Harry has certainly never implied this, so goodness knows where his so called supporters are getting this from

C'monnnnnn. William's jealous. no other explanation needed.

I'm sure that William would have preferred Harry to stay if you ignore all the other stuff. His going meant that the RF was even slimmer than Charles intended and put an extra burden on the Waleses.

I'm honestly sure some of them think it's possible to get William and his kids out of the line of succession and hand everything over to Harry and Meghan, if they shout loudly enough and create enough of a racket online. They clearly know zilch about the history of the RF as an institution and how constitutional monarchy works in the UK.

Maybe his much younger perfectly healthy son could make the effort by bringing his children instead for some quality time. Seems like Harrys got plenty of time on his hands these days after all.

I'm honestly sure some of them think it's possible to get William and his kids out of the line of succession and hand everything over to Harry and Meghan, if they shout loudly enough and create enough of a racket online

I'm honestly sure you're 100% correct. Good job they weren't twins, isn't it?

That much is obvious.

William doesn’t need to get rid of Harry or whatever ridiculous comments are now being made.

Harry by virtue of the way the monarchy works will become more and more irrelevant as time goes on.

Only somebody who either isn’t British or has zero knowledge of constitutional history will not be aware of this.

I think that makes sense but doses up to the eyeballs with pain killers 😬

I think that makes sense but doses up to the eyeballs with pain killers

Sorry to hear that. Hope it's not a long term issue.

Or half?

Maybe avoiding a one on one comparison will work out well.

He is also Head of State of lots of countries. He can put his CofE hat on and forgive ; but he also has to watch his HoS back. That means keeping his distance from Harry at this point in their relationship, since he cannot be trusted to respect or remember who and what his dad is.
Fat-finger edits.

Yet here you are taking time to post. Do you go.round all the boards on MN that you have no interest in & post such a charming message? Is this something we should all be doing?? Do I need to go to the baby names & cat forums & let them know my feelings. Have I been Mumsnetting completely wrong 🤔

Yes I think you are right. They think the monarchy is a bizarre popularity contest. Way too much reality TV, I think. With sinister undertones of treating the Wales children like they are, A/ disposable and B/ destined for terrible futures. The latter being the reason I think they become so pissed off seeing the kids having a happy childhood, dressed like normal kids, reacting like normal kids and doing normal things with their parents; but also dressed up and enjoying themselves/deporting themselves with credit at formal events too - it disrupts the narrative that they are destined to be as fucked up as their uncle. And that only he can save them 🙄

Well, QEII had 3 and 2 of them seem to have made a good go of being useful and on the whole unproblematic. George VI was getting on with his role as the "Industrial Prince" before the Abdication and was horrified at becoming King. One or two of the other siblings of Edward VIII may have had their rackety sides but managed to avoid any sort of open conflict with the Monarch. I think it's reasonable to say too that their childhoods were anything but idyllic.