King Charles III

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Will he?

I am no gambler but I can’t see it myself. Not unless he wants to show his support of his son. Would KC be that generous to his ‘darling boy’? If he did it will definitely upset some anti Harry royalists/daily mail readers/ right wing Americans. Can’t have Harry receiving the King surely….he is supposed to be beyond the pale these days.

William is reported as being ‘baffled’. Baffled? More like blazingly angry about it if true. I guess Will’s thought he could act like a ‘cuckoo’ and get Harry out now and forever. Maybe, the ‘bullying’ trait reported over the years by many, many people regarding him is still there.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/style/king-charles-discussions-visit-prince-130106673.html

I feel very sorry for the benighted HR department. I imagine to spend their time working with the admin staff, cleaners, chefs, footmen, gardeners etc, etc, etc and suddenly to get an approach from the bosses grandsons wife requesting MH assistance was rather outside their experience.

The truth is Meghan was not covered by HR because she wasn't a member of staff. She was a member of the family that the staff work for. I'm not blaming her because if this did indeed happen, yet again it is Harry, Prince of the Blood Royal, who should have known better.

I am only surprised that she didn’t blame Catherine !

I will make some assumptions, seeing as everyone else is doing so on here. It’s all speculative though.

I suspect that if you are a core member of the RF then poor mh is frowned upon. They live by the traditional values of never complain, never explain, stiff upper lip, and keep ploughing on whatever the circumstances.

This probably clashed horribly with the view of someone who was essentially Californian in outlook where you can obtain therapy for your cat if you want to.

I suspect it was more the fact that they disapproved of her needing psychological support in the first place, and they feared the story getting out (after all therapy would probably involve airing problems and grievances) and they were worried about privacy issues more than anything else.

Even if that’s incorrect, when you have recently married in to a family, and just given birth, and you are trying to fit in, it could potentially be very uncomfortable if you are suffering in some way and the family either don’t approve or don’t understand the reasons behind your poor mh or think they are justified. And in those circumstances, you might not want to make things more difficult for your dh if he is lower in rank in the hierarchy of those who set the rules.

These are just my thoughts. I won’t be responding to the usual ten or so posts telling me how wrong I am.😀 And no need to post photos of burning matches either. 😀

That does happen, via Omid Scobie in Endgame.

Catherine Kent (spouse of younger sibling of heir) was an in patient in the 1970s.

That's 50 years ago, and there is no reason to think that the RF has regressed. Especially as both William and Harry have spoken of accessing counselling/MH support this century.

I think the idea that the RF frowns on MH issues is totally misplaced.

I do agree EdithWeston

To suggest otherwise, based on the varying recollections of two people, is unfair and incorrect.

I wonder if she wanted in-patient treatment in the US but was told no for security and privacy concerns ?

My cat is an actual therapist. Which is good because I have another who causes me to need therapy.

In 2017, Harry goes on Briony Gordon’s Mad World podcast - a very public podcast where all us normal people can hear him speaking - saying that, when he returned from Afghanistan in 2013, William spotted him struggling and encouraged him to seek therapy. Which he did. He said conversations with his brother and others close to him helped him move forward. His tribute to his brother’s role in this is warm and touching. Maybe you should go and listen to it.

In 2016, Harry, William and Catherine set up Heads Together, the mental health/wellbeing project of the Royal Foundation. Here you go. This is the royals talking openly about mental health:

https://royalfoundation.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/HeadsTogetherFiveYearReport.pdf

September 2018, William talked about how his work as an air ambulance pilot affected his mental health. May 2020, in his BBC documentary about football and mental health, he talks about parenthood bringing mental health issues/the death of his mother to the fore.

By the time Meghan says she was suffering, her husband had set himself up as a very public pioneer in mental health openness and had his own therapist on speed dial. And yet, as he writes in Spare, he did nothing to help her. Why isn’t it his fault if she received no help? And why didn’t they use the therapy part of their Portland Hospital package? Why didn’t she use some of that California gumption, the woman who wanted to hit the ground running and rejected all help adjusting to the RF, the independent woman who had had a career and her own fortune and thought she was smarter than any other woman who had entered the RF. Princess She-Ra. Why couldn’t she and her very smart (Meghan’s words, Nigeria) sort out help for her?

I suspect that if you are a core member of the RF then poor mh is frowned upon. They live by the traditional values of never complain, never explain, stiff upper lip, and keep ploughing on whatever the circumstances.

Harry has publicly said the opposite, he was encouraged to seek help for his MH issues.

I am talking about my workplace and the Employee Assistance Programme. HR oversees that, and other aspects of staff wellbeing.

Glad @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar has debunked this nonsense post.

I didn’t read that book ( Finding Freedom was enough for me!)

I seem to recall that Princess Margaret also had inpatient treatment for MH problems .

😂😂

How can anyone write paragraphs laying the blame on the royal family whilst ignoring the elephant in the room that is Harry, if you can ignore Harry’s part in this then it’s clearly from a bias. No wonder he never grows up and takes no responsibility, he has been infantilised beyond belief. Our we truly meant to believe a grown man who many of his supporters believed single handedly created Invictus but couldn’t get his wife emergency medical treatment.

Yes. The plastic prick wrote that Catherine was “cold” towards Meghan when she was “crying out for help”. Catherine with a new baby, a toddler and a 6 year old. What exactly they were expecting her to do is a mystery. I mean, she’s a dim, racist Stepford wife with no life, self determination or work ethic, subjugated by her violent husband in her loveless marriage according to the Sussexes, so why would they reach out to her? It also contradicts Harry who says he was too ashamed to get Meghan help. I imagine someone was still annoyed that Catherine wouldn’t go on a shopping trip with her to be “coincidentally” papped, or go into Wimbledon arm in arm.

No one knows the real truth, except that she was really unhappy with her lot and wanted out of the obligations of being a member of the Royal Family. In hindsight, it appears she was working on building their victimhood narrative for use at a later date

Well yes, @Thedom, but then there's tthe question of whether Meghan was actively made unhappy by her new life, or if she never intended staying and built that victimhood narrative you mentioned to justify what she'd wanted to do from the start

I have my own opinions on this, but of course they are only opinions and i'm the first to say they could be wrong

And the Portland doesn't just have perinatal mental support,@Baital - it also has the vastly respected Lucinda Green who's one of the leaders in the field, and would doubtless have been happy to make sure Meghan got only the best

I don’t think the HR department at the Palace would deal with Principals though. The are there to deal with Palace employees, not members of the family

I thought the alleged ideas of suicide were when she was expecting Archie, not when she had just given birth.

That's what I remember, but i can't find the OW interview available on line?

Here you go

Yes, there are plenty of reports about OW. I am trying to find the original interview to remind myself exactly what they said.

It seems to have been pulled by OW?

Well that report quotes from the interview directly. Or were you looking for a different bit?

Looks like they’ve taken the interview offline.