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King Charles III

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ConstantGarden1 · 01/07/2024 22:58

Will he?

I am no gambler but I can’t see it myself. Not unless he wants to show his support of his son. Would KC be that generous to his ‘darling boy’? If he did it will definitely upset some anti Harry royalists/daily mail readers/ right wing Americans. Can’t have Harry receiving the King surely….he is supposed to be beyond the pale these days.

William is reported as being ‘baffled’. Baffled? More like blazingly angry about it if true. I guess Will’s thought he could act like a ‘cuckoo’ and get Harry out now and forever. Maybe, the ‘bullying’ trait reported over the years by many, many people regarding him is still there.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/style/king-charles-discussions-visit-prince-130106673.html

King Charles 'in discussions' to visit Prince Harry for first time in years - as 'reason' behind trip revealed

King Charles is said to be in discussions to visit his estranged son Prince Harry in America for the first time in years - but his wife and Prince William are reportedly not happy

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/style/king-charles-discussions-visit-prince-130106673.html

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IAmATorturedPoet · 05/07/2024 08:14

His support for veterans and the military is was solid - just fixed that for you.

He’s job sharing with his wife now, the ‘support’ is quite different and it shows.

Gorgonemilezola · 05/07/2024 08:18

Tbh if his support for the military was that 'solid' he could always have stayed in.

smilesy · 05/07/2024 08:29

TicTacToes · 05/07/2024 00:36

Bemused and confused?

Ive literally seen thousands of photos of Harry getting stuck in. His support for veterans and the military is solid.

“Literally thousands?” Hyperbole at its finest . That is some dedication to your cause. I don’t think I’ve looked at “literally thousands” of photos of my own children 😂
And how do these thousands of photos show him getting stuck in to support veterans. What does “getting stuck in” mean here?

JSMill · 05/07/2024 08:58

TicTacToes · 05/07/2024 00:26

Having to is something one can feel compelled to do when a foreign bride to be and then wife is dealt with so appallingly in the public arena by mainstream UK newspapers. No headlines previously matched the dog whistle racism that was deployed. Passionate response that motivates action will always be felt as a drive of having to speak out in support. Hence the political class felt it right and proper to speak up.

Once again it is not about the other women who married in and their experience in the mainstream papers. It is about the uniqueness of the barely hidden disdain and erroneously deployed narrative of ‘skid row’ and ‘gangsta’ that Meghan received despite an Ivy League education and her own independent charitable works. Thankfully, thousands know this even if some have blinkers on.

To also be clear I think that Catherine had a rough time of it but in terms of a league table of awful press she was not in the premier league of bile in opinion pieces found in the right wing press.

…back to the election 🗳️ results and the talking heads for me.

Megan did not go to an Ivy League university.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 05/07/2024 09:29

TicTacToes · 05/07/2024 00:26

Having to is something one can feel compelled to do when a foreign bride to be and then wife is dealt with so appallingly in the public arena by mainstream UK newspapers. No headlines previously matched the dog whistle racism that was deployed. Passionate response that motivates action will always be felt as a drive of having to speak out in support. Hence the political class felt it right and proper to speak up.

Once again it is not about the other women who married in and their experience in the mainstream papers. It is about the uniqueness of the barely hidden disdain and erroneously deployed narrative of ‘skid row’ and ‘gangsta’ that Meghan received despite an Ivy League education and her own independent charitable works. Thankfully, thousands know this even if some have blinkers on.

To also be clear I think that Catherine had a rough time of it but in terms of a league table of awful press she was not in the premier league of bile in opinion pieces found in the right wing press.

…back to the election 🗳️ results and the talking heads for me.

Please can you set out your league table.

As pp has pointed out, Northwestern is not an Ivy League university.

Taking your alleged narrative as an accurate reflection of what was written, shouldn’t that be that they erroneously wrote about a background that she didn’t grow up in, given that she was brought up in wealth and privilege by her Emmy winning, well connected father, who paid for her to go to one of the most prestigious schools in the state? If she had grown up in the poverty depicted, her achievements (modest at best) would actually be admirable. Is that why she has subsequently played down the privilege of her upbringing?

Uricon2 · 05/07/2024 10:01

I think that there are growing issues with Invictus and Harry's involvement but more crucially, Harry would be well advised to be far more proactive than he seems to have been so far in the African Parks scandal. Kate was expected to spill her personal health details at a difficult time, why isn't he being held to account for his silence about this? He's not just a figurehead, he was elevated to the board of Directors last year.

I believe that for all her faults Diana was very committed to her causes, including land mine eradication and Aids awareness and was apparently extremely well informed about them, to the surprise of many. I find it impossible to believe that she would not have spoken out at least to reassure of her own robust investigations if a scandal of this magnitude broke. He has a public reputation if nothing else, which is contaminated by association, the horrendous allegations of what has apparently gone on there aside. I'm left with the uneasy sense of a rich white saviour whose "love" of Africa doesn't extend to the more vulnerable of her people and who has little grasp of or interest in the harder issues.

PrincessMee · 05/07/2024 10:24

GardeningIsntScrapingForSussex · 04/07/2024 21:53

Like this one 😉😄

What is this? I can see it says Sussex Squad. Other than that ? HMALD?

TicTacToes · 05/07/2024 10:41

Nothing you have said addresses the issues at hand racism+newspapers..

Rhaidimiddim · 05/07/2024 11:00

TicTacToes · 05/07/2024 10:41

Nothing you have said addresses the issues at hand racism+newspapers..

From the OW interview, you'd think the British press was indeed a hotbed of racism.

But those headlines were doctored, taken out of context, some of them were from non-British papers and the one always cted as the most egregious (the "straight outta Compton one") was written as a puff piece by an American writer.

Show me some examples of overt racism by the British press.

(Cue the link to the article showing how the press favoured Catherine over Meghan in their coverage for a few years. For me, that is not proof of racism, just the press pitting one Royal woman against another. It would have happened whatever the relative skin colours of the women involved.)

TicTacToes · 05/07/2024 11:04

Rhaidimiddim · 05/07/2024 11:00

From the OW interview, you'd think the British press was indeed a hotbed of racism.

But those headlines were doctored, taken out of context, some of them were from non-British papers and the one always cted as the most egregious (the "straight outta Compton one") was written as a puff piece by an American writer.

Show me some examples of overt racism by the British press.

(Cue the link to the article showing how the press favoured Catherine over Meghan in their coverage for a few years. For me, that is not proof of racism, just the press pitting one Royal woman against another. It would have happened whatever the relative skin colours of the women involved.)

I’m not here to do your research, the evidence is plentiful and easily obtainable. It is also discussed in university degree programmes, along with analysis of the articles in the media.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 05/07/2024 11:08

TicTacToes · 05/07/2024 10:41

Nothing you have said addresses the issues at hand racism+newspapers..

That's your issue, not mine. I'm a woman of colour. A working class woman of colour whose parents came from and lived in poverty. I'm made of pretty strong stuff, luckily and have made a very nice life for myself, and I'm proud of where I've come from. I own it. Run away from a one in 8 billion opportunity because of a few stupid tabloid headlines? Not a chance.

DeftLemonDog · 05/07/2024 11:11

But those headlines were doctored, taken out of context, some of them were from non-British papers and the one always cted as the most egregious (the "straight outta Compton one") was written as a puff piece by an American writer.

But that ‘puff piece’ was commissioned by the Daily Mail. And published on Mail online - the website of the Daily Mail. The British publisher thought it was suitable to print.

Years later , the British Sun followed it up with Jeremy Clarkson’s hate piece.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 05/07/2024 11:11

Rhaidimiddim · 05/07/2024 11:00

From the OW interview, you'd think the British press was indeed a hotbed of racism.

But those headlines were doctored, taken out of context, some of them were from non-British papers and the one always cted as the most egregious (the "straight outta Compton one") was written as a puff piece by an American writer.

Show me some examples of overt racism by the British press.

(Cue the link to the article showing how the press favoured Catherine over Meghan in their coverage for a few years. For me, that is not proof of racism, just the press pitting one Royal woman against another. It would have happened whatever the relative skin colours of the women involved.)

All of this too. Honestly, some posters think this is the first rodeo for some of us. Most of their claims have been completely debunked.

Vespanest · 05/07/2024 11:25

TicTacToes · 05/07/2024 11:04

I’m not here to do your research, the evidence is plentiful and easily obtainable. It is also discussed in university degree programmes, along with analysis of the articles in the media.

But as your specsavers post from yesterday showed you see what you want to see, regardless of accuracy. Had you not provided a screenshot no one would have known that your claim of 77k support was actually 2.5k.

GardeningIsntScrapingForSussex · 05/07/2024 11:32

Another woman of colour who isn’t going to do your research for you.

While there were a few despicable articles, it was not an onslaught and nor was it all about her colour.

Not everything is about racism.

People of any colour can act like an arsehole.

Her arsehole husband reacted to her arsehole allusions of racism by sweeping it under the carpet and referring to what she said as unconscious bias.

If it was racism within the RF - which I absolutely doubt - then call it that and name and shame.

But the pair of them were mealie mouthed and sly and did far more damage to everyday reactions to racism than any snarky article written by a foreign journalist. I’m living that particular dream at the moment.

It isn’t my first fucking rodeo either. I’ve been riding since the 60s.

And I never had to clart my face with bucketloads of bronzer to make myself look browner when meeting other brown(er) people.

I’ve not claimed to be any sort of percentage. I don’t have to scream I’m brown.

But I haven’t spent time denying my heritage and making on I’m not a person of colour for some of my career either.

And I’d win at idiot wrangling and the tit lasso.

Plenty of practise here.

Rhaidimiddim · 05/07/2024 11:34

TicTacToes · 05/07/2024 11:04

I’m not here to do your research, the evidence is plentiful and easily obtainable. It is also discussed in university degree programmes, along with analysis of the articles in the media.

In other words, I've just got to take your word for it. No thanks! I read widely, and wouldn't have missed an overtly racist headline.

GardeningIsntScrapingForSussex · 05/07/2024 11:44

I won’t take someone’s word either- more so when they can’t tell the difference between 77,000 and 2,500.

And can’t back up claims.

MummyJ12 · 05/07/2024 11:53

The same posters who will demand links and proof for everything, yet will put forward spurious, unfounded claims that they will refuse to back up.

Uricon2 · 05/07/2024 11:59

MummyJ12 · 05/07/2024 11:53

The same posters who will demand links and proof for everything, yet will put forward spurious, unfounded claims that they will refuse to back up.

From that renowned organ of journalistic probity, comparable only to the Washington Post during Watergate, Celebitchy 😂

Rhaidimiddim · 05/07/2024 12:03

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 05/07/2024 11:11

All of this too. Honestly, some posters think this is the first rodeo for some of us. Most of their claims have been completely debunked.

If the racism.was as plentiful as posters say, I'm sure I would have come acoss sone examples in my copious readung around this sybject.

If the racism was as plentiful etc... oprah wouldn't have had to edit headlines and lie rhat they were from the British press.

If the racism...press...etc... were so plentiful you'd bet that OPs here would be providing more links than a sausage factory. That they don't - plus having done my own research - leads me to to conclude that the racism claims were M jumping on a bandwagon to justify her flounce.

MummyJ12 · 05/07/2024 12:04

Exactly @Uricon2!
Celebitchy, the altar of the Sussex Squad. The clue is in the title…..! 😂

Uricon2 · 05/07/2024 12:09

I think there's an interesting debate to be had about the way the media treat women marrying in to the RF, really from Diana onwards. Pretty much all of those marrying senior royals have had a horrible time with the Press at one point or another and it speaks of a deep rooted misogyny that builds women up to pull them down and pits them against each other. I think if anything was in play in the case of Meghan, it was largely lead by that, although I am not denying the existence of racism and abhor any coverage where that was a factor.

Rhaidimiddim · 05/07/2024 12:17

Uricon2 · 05/07/2024 12:09

I think there's an interesting debate to be had about the way the media treat women marrying in to the RF, really from Diana onwards. Pretty much all of those marrying senior royals have had a horrible time with the Press at one point or another and it speaks of a deep rooted misogyny that builds women up to pull them down and pits them against each other. I think if anything was in play in the case of Meghan, it was largely lead by that, although I am not denying the existence of racism and abhor any coverage where that was a factor.

Oldies will remember Diana being torn down as fuddy-duddy and Fergie as a breath of fresh air (sound familiar?) when Fergie came on the scene. Lots of critical comparisons, for a few years. Then they turned it around.

It is a familiar pattern, all to do with being women marrying into the RF.

BemusedAmerican · 05/07/2024 12:23

Out of curiosity, if the ARO rollout is used in a university marketing cass as an example of a marketing campaign failure, is that being hateful? Or the " summer of love" campaign?