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For my crack pot plan I already have government time for the legislation so just add it to the Bill - take it from the Sovereign Grant payable in the financial year following the death of the Monarch. "Monarchy Reform Bill 2028". It's very white paperish at the moment. Grateful for input.

I agree my proposal is pretty revolutionary and will be framed as abolishing the monarchy not democratic gradualist reform by vested interests. But all change starts somwhere and is usually very controversial at the outset when it goes against the status quo.

I couldn't agree more 👍

@TheFirmBiscuit with respect, more early Green Paper rather than White

Then surely you would support getting the ball rolling with removal of Prince and Princess titles and a hereditary Dukedom from American citizens? It would be a great start for your reform.

Sometimes you don’t have too look too hard to see bwlt

In your ‘crack pot plan’, do the 15 Commonwealth realms get to vote? How would that work? Who pays for it?

Sounds like a recipe for chaos and mayhem.

This would only happen if in a Britain in serious decline, the monarchy became a lightning rod for popular unrest and a government on the ropes attempted to spatchcock a solution that would appeal to both sides of the arguement whilst probably satisfying neither. It wouldn't be vote winner in the main but like the abolition of fox hunting could appeal to enough to get their vote whilst not upsetting the horses.

I have fiercely Republican Irish friend who thinks I'm a monarchist for some reason. I've always said if they did get abolished then Britain will be in a parlous state and is that what you really want ?

I'm going to bed but I will be back tomorrow if the discussion is still continuing.

Same here !

Have a good night and thanks for answering my question.

Sounds more like toilet paper.

Crepe.

BadPennyForeverTurningUp

Crepe

Ahh, you always ply me with your wit.

Tissue who creases me up.

Tis allus ue LaMarschallin

Maybe even ?

Splendid.

In the interim period between the previous monarch dying and the new one canvassing for votes, how would legislation get approved? How would elections get called? How would the Prime Minister be appointed? Parliament opened? How would all the things the monarch does as part of our constitution happen?

The reason that succession is immediate is because the country can't run without a Head of State. Plus of course as a PP pointed out voting costs money, a lot of money. I don't think this idea is practical. You either have a monarchy or you don't, this is a sort of constitutional half in half out and we know that doesn't work.

It's half-baked nonsense (and that's being kind). One post upthread talked about 10,000 pages of legislation needed to make the change. Then there's the debates, the consultation with the commonwealth, consultation with the people in the UK (I assume we'd be allowed that) and the sheer length of time it would take to unpick a situation that's evolved organically over centuries. And for what?

Because some people get all bitter and twisted over 'unelected privilege.' You want to address that, start with cutting the size of the Lords.

Dealing with the other countries for whom King Charles is monarch is going to be complex. If any of them wish to remain monarchies, then the RF will continue to exist as Royal.

And there's an additional complication right there. Can the monarch be monarch in the commonwealth but not all of it and not in the UK? or not in the UK but in the rest of the commonwealth? or in the UK and some of the commonwealth but not all of it?

And what happens to Britain's standing in the world diplomatically and politically while this is being played out?

It'll take about a century to hash that lot out, for a compromise that no-one will be happy with, I reckon.

I hadn't thought about the fact that by not being an electable queen, new election every ten years or so, the long-lived QE2 saved us pots of dosh on organising all that voting.

Exactly @RoseAndRose and @MrsDanversGlidesAgain

There is no political party out there that would seriously take it on, the costs would be extortionate and the variables too many.

Some things, whether people like it or not, are best left.

All because of one photo.

And some over baked dog biscuits 😂😂