Nigeria 2

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To continue the discussion.

I thought the comparison with the Duke snd Duchess of Windsor (last post on the previous thread) was interesting.

A visit to a dodgy regime, (Nazi Germany) because they would call Wallis HRH and make it a quasi-royal tour.

Of course, at that point Nazi Germany had a dodgy human rights record, but it was before the horrors of the Holocaust.

Let's face it, with the security and human rights issues there is no way the IG could happen in Nigeria. So that is sn excuse.

They could ask about the 62,000 Christian’s who have been massacred there since 2000 including those last Christmas.

I cringed at Meghan telling the audience at how she managed her career and motherhood. Not everyone marries into enormous inherited wealth and can set up vanity projects..she is hardly a role model.

Hope South Park are doing another episode on the jam and Nigeria.

Maybe as MM is now meeting with Nigerian royalty, she can have chat about reparations. Reparations from the descendants of the Nigerian slave owners and traders, who carried on the trade of kidnapping and selling other Africans long after the slave trade had been abolished in the UK and the US - up to the 1940s, in fact! Here’s an article from someone who is admirably honest about their ancestry. Just to add, I am very against current generations paying for the actions of their ancestors. But I am also against the hypocrisy of some of those loud voices making that demand.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/my-great-grandfather-the-nigerian-slave-trader

I do find it strange that they don't ever seem to travel with their kids. Even to the polo stuff, Meghan is draped all over Nacho's kid, wouldn't hers enjoy seeing Daddy riding the horses? I'm sure I've seen the Wales kids at similar events eating a picnic out of the back of a car.

There's something very odd about the children. It doesn't add up.

What career?

One of the only things I respect them for is keeping their dcs out of the public eye. However they do seem to spend an awful lot of time away from them, which is not outwith their control. I personally hate mother's day as I don't like being the centre of attention but dh has always been hot on it because I guess he wants the DCs to show their appreciation. Surely H and M have flexibility in their schedule.

That’d be a Greek cross then. Maybe down from Phillip?

Yes, agreed they have kept their DCs out of the spotlight. I’m not sure there’s much public interest in them though, so perhaps that’s easy to achieve. Celebrity children (because that’s essentially what they are) generally don’t feature much until they start misbehaving in their own right.

Another day another dishrag. If she is merching, she’s doing it badly. Could have packed a steamer to get the creases out!!

Nigerians are not oblivious to the backstory- they’ve chosen a side. Just take a look at the Nigerian press who are rightly horrified at how the British press treat Meghan.

The Royal family should be worried at the fact that Meghan and Harry have undeniable appeal in Africa and have been received really well on this tour. In a very traditional society like many Nigerian societies- the son of the king is the son of the king, titles or not. To remove Meghan and Harry’s titles would be foolish and would anger a huge portion of the commonwealth who find H&M much more relatable and likeable. The firm have really shot themselves in the foot by not treating Meghan better.

They’re not working Royals so we don’t need to see their kids I think it’s fine they keep them hidden whe they’re still very young.

Im a nosey bitch though and would like to see birthday pictures 😂 the last ones they released were beautiful. The one of Lilibet was a joy to see

How exactly did they not treat her well? She was given a lot more grace than Kate ever was in a lot of respects

Maybe Meghan should have treated Royal staff better ? And let’s not forget the way she has treated Catherine.

It strikes me they bent over backwards to welcome her and gave her every opportunity to succeed but she’s utterly impossible to work with.

Yes I fully believe the bullying allegations. Even Scobie didn’t defend the allegations that well.

She has lied but also put some shocking half-accusations out there then acted dumb when people took them seriously.

Im scratching my head as to how she should have been treated better. Given a lot of protocol was broken for her, and Charles lovingly walked her down the aisle, I find it hard to believe she was the family outcast.

Another thing that always was a red flag with me was in her Oprah interview she absolutely slated the Crown as an institution and made personal remarks and accusations about family members - but never the Queen.

Even with republicans the Queen was very popular and could do no wrong, I suspect she knew if she came for her her career would be over. So she told these gushing stories about how lovely the Queen was to her - she knew what she was doing, she was telling “her story” but also making out she’s so lovely because the Queen apparently liked her

She’s treated the Queen like she’s an elderly moron who never got the measure of her. Sweet old lady reminds me of my grandma blah blah… so condescending.
the way she talked about having to curtsey to the queen was utterly contemptible. Even harry looked ashamed at that point

They really are welcome to the pair of them, maybe Nigeria should leave the Commonwealth and pronounce Harry and Meghan their King and Queen.

I agree! The Queen did a great job of hiding her personality for 70 years, but I strongly suspect she was very intelligent and ruthless when it came to balancing duty with living a happy life. Personally - and I’ve said this since the OW interview aired - I don’t buy for a moment that Meghan got no preparation for her role. I work in the media and have met a few Royals, one was a closed visit to victims of a crime and their families and even I was briefed by their people on protocol

I think she understood exactly what was expected of her but thought she’d go in and shake things up with her Hollywood feminist principles and was most disappointed when she found that isn’t how it worked.

Although in fairness to the curtesy thing on Netflix - credit where it is due I believe she was taking the piss out of herself, not the Queen. When I have met Royals, I’m pretty sure I did a messy curtesy!

Harry has obviously suffered from having absent parents (including Diana even when she was alive). It’s clearly something Will and Kate are doing differently. Harry always seems so clueless and unaware for someone who is always lecturing others.

Thanks for such interesting posts. Surely Charles is going to take action now?

the Mail are trolling them for sure

I agree with some of this. I think the Nigerians have picked a side. I think she might well get the same reception in other African nations and Commonweath countries and yes, it is potentially a problem for the Royal Family.

I don’t agree that H and M being more “relatable and likeable” to those nations is a reason for them to keep titles and connections which they are bringing into disrepute.

If H and M want to identify as as humanitarians, entrepreneurs or whatever, fine. They can hob nob with who they like and take all the freebies and backhanders going. Let’s face it, they’re going to anyway. As business people they should be free to work in the way that suits them best. But there should be no misunderstanding who they are representing.

I’m no fan of the DM but they are definitely taking the piss here. “Grinning with apparent excitement” 😂. The grinning photo is interesting - they both look a bit deranged and there must have been a better/more flattering photo that could have been used, but DM have chosen to go with this.

'I agree with some of this. I think the Nigerians have picked a side. I think she might well get the same reception in other African nations and Commonweath countries and yes, it is potentially a problem for the Royal Family.'

Absolutely. The pair of them are being used as useful idiots in ways they don't have the imagination to understand. And, tbh, it's not so much other African nations using them in this way, but China and Russia particularly.

Saying the Nigerians have picked a side is a bit of a sweeping statement. I saw footage of a Nigerian panel discussion earlier where they were saying that Meghan was disrespectful to her in laws and her attitude/ behaviour was against their family values and culture.

I'm pretty sure if William and Catherine visited Nigeria for a royal tour they would receive a great welcome.