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Mylovelygreendress · 21/04/2024 11:30

Vespanest · 21/04/2024 11:01

It’s the infantilisation that Harry attracts, from the racism, to the excuses that somehow everyone was to blame for not getting Meghan the help she needed, to requiring Meghan to hold his hand when his grandmother mother died whilst simultaneously believing he’s capable of single handedly creating invictus. He goes from man child to hero and back again repeatedly. He went from the palace trapped us to I need to be by the Queen to protect her. Harry couldn’t even protect his wife when she told him she was suicidal, according to himself, how Catherine got dragged into that story still baffles me.

I agree with everything . The fact that Catherine has been blamed for not supporting Meghan is so unfair . She had 2 very young children and was pregnant or post partum. Why not criticise Camilla ? Sophie? Anne? Zara ? Etc

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/04/2024 12:37

Interesting that many of the ones who repeatedly shouted racism are nowhere to be seen

I guess there's only so long folk can keep howling the same baseless accusation and expect to be taken seriously, @Mylovelygreendress
As I've said so often nobody with sense would deny that Meghan suffered some appalling racism, but to suggest that every last adverse comment is based on nothing else is just plain ridiculous

Viviennemary · 21/04/2024 13:18

Their defenders seem to be very thin on the ground at the moment. Maybe they've given them up as a lost cause. Seems like this is what the royal family has done.

Mylovelygreendress · 21/04/2024 13:39

Viviennemary · 21/04/2024 13:18

Their defenders seem to be very thin on the ground at the moment. Maybe they've given them up as a lost cause. Seems like this is what the royal family has done.

It seems surprising that so many have decided en masse to desert the board …….

CoffeeCantata · 21/04/2024 13:54

Viviennemary · Today 13:18
Their defenders seem to be very thin on the ground at the moment. Maybe they've given them up as a lost cause. Seems like this is what the royal family has done.

Yes. I wonder if they're just too embarrassed to show come out of their burrows?

H & M fans have 2 main mantras on MN (and probably elsewhere, but I only look here): 1) the accusation of racism and 2) why do you care/why are you so invested in someone/a couple you don't even know?

I think that the first jibe is wearing a bit thin, at least on MN, and the second is truly desperate, illogical and patently stupid. The idea that we're all only allowed to be interested in and comment on personal friends is beyond ridiculous, and I guess some of them know that. But what have they got left in their arsenal? It's truly pathetic.

FrannieGallops · 21/04/2024 14:10

I admire Harry and Meghan for being brave enough to make the break. I’m sure they’re infinitely happier than they would’ve been had they stayed here.

AliceOlive · 21/04/2024 14:55

What is brave about two entitled multimillionaires throwing a temper tantrum because granny wouldn’t let them monetize their titles, relying upon the charity of complete stranger to crash at his palatial mansions, then going on Oprah to spew nonsense about their family then refusing it to clarify for years?

CC49 · 21/04/2024 15:05

FrannieGallops · 21/04/2024 14:10

I admire Harry and Meghan for being brave enough to make the break. I’m sure they’re infinitely happier than they would’ve been had they stayed here.

I say this with sincerity: I believe the break was the best choice for everyone involved -- in the U.K. and the U.S.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 21/04/2024 15:07

FrannieGallops · 21/04/2024 14:10

I admire Harry and Meghan for being brave enough to make the break. I’m sure they’re infinitely happier than they would’ve been had they stayed here.

They weren’t brave till they were told they couldn’t have half in half out. They didn’t want leave they just didn’t get what they wanted.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 21/04/2024 15:25

FrannieGallops · 21/04/2024 14:10

I admire Harry and Meghan for being brave enough to make the break. I’m sure they’re infinitely happier than they would’ve been had they stayed here.

They never wanted to leave, supporters always try to erase this from history, the statement is within this article.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/08/prince-harry-and-meghan-say-they-are-stepping-back-from-royal-family

Prince Harry and Meghan to step back from royal family

Duke and Duchess of Sussex say they intend to ‘work to become financially independent’

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/08/prince-harry-and-meghan-say-they-are-stepping-back-from-royal-family

Corinthiana · 21/04/2024 15:31

AliceOlive · 21/04/2024 14:55

What is brave about two entitled multimillionaires throwing a temper tantrum because granny wouldn’t let them monetize their titles, relying upon the charity of complete stranger to crash at his palatial mansions, then going on Oprah to spew nonsense about their family then refusing it to clarify for years?

Exactly this.
Quite the opposite of "bravery".

Corinthiana · 21/04/2024 15:32

CC49 · 21/04/2024 15:05

I say this with sincerity: I believe the break was the best choice for everyone involved -- in the U.K. and the U.S.

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I agree with you. I'm very glad they left.

OneHeartySnail · 21/04/2024 15:34

FrannieGallops · 21/04/2024 14:10

I admire Harry and Meghan for being brave enough to make the break. I’m sure they’re infinitely happier than they would’ve been had they stayed here.

I hope they are. The royal cosplay and legal battle over security suggests otherwise. But none of us know them...

Vespanest · 21/04/2024 15:38

I do think it brave slagging the family off that you “love” for money and hoping (expecting) that your father having cancer will be able to reunify the family as if nothing happened. No bravery would be handing your titles back and practicing what you preach. He hasn’t broke away he just living in a different post code.

ArcaneWireless · 21/04/2024 15:42

Brave my arse.

Corinthiana · 21/04/2024 15:42

Bravery would be speaking up about the cruelty in polo.
Bravery would be answering to the shocking accusations about African Parks.
Bravery would be apologising for all the lies and deceit that caused so much pain and heartache.
Bravery would be calling out fans for the online abuse of Kate.
Bravery would be saying that they don't want titles for themselves, nor their children.
None of the above will ever happen.

Corinthiana · 21/04/2024 15:43

ArcaneWireless · 21/04/2024 15:42

Brave my arse.

You put it more succinctly!

JSMill · 21/04/2024 16:03

It's actually quite interesting to read that Guardian article, over four years on and following a couple of interviews, a book and a NF series where they portrayed themselves as victims who had to flee to North America for their own safety. So many people bought that story. Reading the Guardian article, their statement- which was their own words- shows they were quite happy to be royals but wanted to be independent ie do it their way and not be subject to public scrutiny. They were probably taken by surprise that HMQ wasn't having that arrangement and then they had to rewrite their story. I wonder if either has ever regretted being so impetuous.

BasiliskStare · 21/04/2024 16:14

I look forward to Harry paying his legal bills for the court cases he has instigated to get automatic Royal protection even though he is a not a working member of the RF. I am sure on a case by case basis if he comes back to visit his father and stay with him he will get protection enough , otherwise for other reasons pay his own. Not sure if he is going to do another appeal but I do think it a bit tone deaf of him not to see he has cost the taxpayer a lot of money. But just my opinion.

& I think the jam looks a bit rubbish 😊🍓

I don't think they should not be allowed to earn money - that was the whole point I think of them moving but they do seem to rely very heavily on the Royal family rather than doing things of their own. The family they have well and truly criticised oft without basis . But I suspect KC has better things to worry about than his son and DIL going beyond the handshake they would not make money from the RF .

Ah well - they will make a success of themselves or not.

Corinthiana · 21/04/2024 16:27

Yes, they've not so much "earned their own money" as monetised criticisms of the RF, and invaded their privacy.

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 21/04/2024 16:41

chocmatcha · 17/04/2024 19:25

I hope he finds peace and happiness there with the jam making

Jam making or whatever making, I hope he and his family do find peace and love over there and feel wanted.

I sincerely wish them all the best in the USA

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Salemforcuddles · 21/04/2024 16:48

Some people have a very strange view of bravery

Runnerinthenight · 21/04/2024 19:27

smilesy · 21/04/2024 10:58

I am also curious as to what would have happened had they not been in the UK by completed coincidence when the Queen died. I assume that Harry would have come over from the States as soon as he was informed, but would Meghan have come with him? I assume she would have come for the funeral, but would she have been here for the whole week before? If (and we can’t know obviously) the answer to this would be “no”, then it would seem that it was only because the occasion presented itself that they wanted to insert themselves in to the trip to Balmoral. Especially as they had already had the opportunity to go there to see the Queen just before her death, but didn’t bother 🤷‍♀️

edited typo. I was repeating myself

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I will never understand why they hadn't factored in a visit to the Queen on their trip to Europe? They must have been aware that she was very ill?

Corinthiana · 21/04/2024 19:28

They never visited her at all, did they?
They were always invited to Balmoral. Never went.

Runnerinthenight · 21/04/2024 19:32

FrannieGallops · 21/04/2024 14:10

I admire Harry and Meghan for being brave enough to make the break. I’m sure they’re infinitely happier than they would’ve been had they stayed here.

I do not admire Harry or Meghan in any shape or form! There is nothing admirable about them, neither are they "brave"!!

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